# Best Pixar film

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**Created:** [June 6, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148 "2010-06-06T05:55:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/41 "2010-06-07T02:22:16Z")

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Monsters is a personal favorite. But if you picked TS2, Up, WALL-E or Nemo, I’ve got no beef with you.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/42 "2010-06-07T02:30:28Z")

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The Incredibles is the most grown up film they’ve done. Got my vote.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/43 "2010-06-07T02:49:56Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> The Incredibles is the most grown up film they’ve done. Got my vote.

The Incredibles is my second favorite.

Finding Nemo is the most grown up and the best film they’ve done.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/44 "2010-06-07T03:12:16Z")

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Monsters Inc all the way. Great animation, great funny.

Wall-E would have been my favorite, if they didn’t ruin it by putting all those humans in there…

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/45 "2010-06-07T03:50:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I’m surprised _The Incredibles_ did so well. I’d rank it #8 overall (ahead of only _Up_ and _Ratatouille_).

I’m surprised as well, because I thought I was one of the few people who think it is Pixar’s best ever.

I put Nemo second, which makes me think that I must have an inadvertent trend going on in my taste buds: liking family themes in animation.

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**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/46 "2010-06-07T04:04:18Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> … My favorite is Wall\*E. To this day, I’m still shocked at the guts necessary to make a major motion picture where the main character doesn’t speak, but acts out his dialogue like Charlie Chaplin. In fact, they picked a main character that was so physically limited it seems improbable that they could even pull it off. To me, that they could make such a simple character so emphatic is a minor miracle.

you’ve probably seen it but if not you might like _Cast Away_, wherein Tom Hanks was alone for most of the two hour movie.

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**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/47 "2010-06-07T04:16:58Z")

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My top 3 would be:

1. Wall-E
2. Up
3. Toy Story

Disclaimer: I haven’t seen Ratatoille, Cars, or The Incredibles. I have seen the others.

I honestly don’t know why Toy Story 2 is so popular, as I thought it was one of Pixar’s weakest films.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/48 "2010-06-07T04:40:47Z")

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1. Finding Nemo
2. The Incredibles
3. Wall•E
4. Toy Story 2
5. Monsters Inc.
6. Toy Story
7. Up
8. Ratatouille
9. A Bug’s Life
10. Cars

And I gotta say, all these films are remarkable in their own right. Besides Cars, the margin of quality, entertainment, craftsmanship and story is so very small. Cars felt like a misstep for me. It has it’s moments, but just felt forced and self-indulgent from John Lasseter. But, considering Pixar’s portfolio… I’ll cut him some slack. He deserves it.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/49 "2010-06-07T06:25:28Z")

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It was a (_very_ tough) choice among: **Toy Story 2** , **Monsters, Inc.** , **Finding Nemo** , **WALL-E** , and **Up**. I ultimately went with **WALL-E** , though, because it’s the most lyrical, gorgeous film I’ve seen in the past, say, twenty years. And, like all of the others mentioned, it never fails to produce real, well-earned tears. As far as **The Incredibles** goes, I really like it, but I can’t say that I _love_ it, since, try as it might, it just doesn’t have the same emotional resonance for me that the others do.

Now, as far as what is my least favorite Pixar flick? That’d be **Ratatouille** , which really surprised me when I watched it, as I’m such a foodie _and_ such a Patton Oswalt fan. Very close runner-up would be **A Bug’s Life** (though the attraction it inspired at Disney’s Animal Kingdom is top-fucking-notch). What’s most surprising to me is that **Cars** doesn’t occupy my “least favorite” spot, considering how much I loathe both NASCAR and fucking Larry the Cable Guy.

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**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/50 "2010-06-07T06:38:54Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> In the story-writing business we call that “homage”, unless you’re clearly trying not to associate your character with its inspiration while at the same time aping every ability and tic they exhibit. You may as well say that _WALL-E_ is a ripoff of “Number 5” from _Short Curcuit_ (which it clearly mimics).
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> Stranger

It also rips o… erm (_ahem_) _pays homage_ somewhat to Moore & Gibbons’ **Watchmen** graphic novel.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/51 "2010-06-07T07:32:42Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> And I gotta say, all these films are remarkable in their own right. Besides Cars, the margin of quality, entertainment, craftsmanship and story is so very small. Cars felt like a misstep for me. It has it’s moments, but just felt forced and self-indulgent from John Lasseter.

Plus it totally ripped off Doc Hollywood (and not in an “homage” kind of way).

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**Author:** ![Superhal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Superhal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superhal)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/52 "2010-06-07T09:19:19Z")

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> [@shijinn](#):
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> you’ve probably seen it but if not you might like _Cast Away_, wherein Tom Hanks was alone for most of the two hour movie.

But, he had an amazing amount of dialogue to express emotion.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/53 "2010-06-07T10:50:56Z")

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I’d vote for the first half of Wall-E up to the dance round the Axiom, not so much after that. The Incredibles is brilliant from start to finish.

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**Author:** ![diku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4af34b/32.png) [@diku](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diku)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/54 "2010-06-07T14:13:39Z")

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I vote for Monster’s Inc, nothing else they’ve done feels as great as the chase through the millions of doors near the end. But I love the Incredibles, Nemo, Wall-E, TS2 (except the song), TS, all of them. I even like parts of Cars.

If you ask my 2 year old son, it’s Cars. Next summer is going to be a hoot with all the Cars marketing that’s coming. The Toy Story stuff that’s everywhere is hard enough now. Nothing like hearing your kid yelling about Buzz Lightyear while in the produce section of the grocery store.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/55 "2010-06-07T15:59:40Z")

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_The Incredibles_ just kicks all kind of ass - funny, good-looking, adventurous, sly, thrilling, touching, with a voice cast that couldn’t be better. It’s not just the best Pixar film - it would probably make my personal Top Ten list of all films I’ve ever seen. I really think it’s that good.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/56 "2010-06-07T16:08:16Z")

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I voted for **The Incredibles** for many of the reasons noted above, and I’d like to second the amazing art design. Everything in the volcano super-hideout-place is particularly wonderful- it feels like a perfect send-up of an old Bond movie, and the lack of cheap sight gags that mar many childrens’ movies is pretty absent. The score is likewise wonderful- supporting the theme very nicely.

Had **Up** maintained the level of quality it set in the first few minutes, I’d have it in first place. It goes too far towards the kiddie level for most of the movie, though, so I can’t put it first. **Wall-E** does a better job of this, I think, though even it tapers off towards the end.

I guess, more than anything, that I like **The Incredibles** partly because it maintains itself so well over the course of the movie. **Toy Story** does a good job of this too, but it’s not quite so strong overall as most of Pixar’s later works.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/57 "2010-06-07T16:22:15Z")

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1. The Incredibles

2. Monsters, Inc.

3. Wall-E

4. Toy Story

5. Toy Story 2

6. Finding Nemo

7. Up

8. Ratatouille

9. A Bug’s Life

10. Cars

The empty lines are the drop-off points - I lovelovelove the first two, love that middle bunch, and still like the bottom group (but they don’t live up to the rest).

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/58 "2010-06-07T16:23:38Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> But, he had an amazing amount of dialogue to express emotion.

true but imho _Cast Away_ required bigger guts to make, it literally is a one man show. hmm, i can’t think of any but aren’t there any good modern movies where the main character is a mute? Marlee Matlin doesn’t count, she uses sign language to communicate and she talks. sorta.

oh i should point out that i like _Wall-E_ too. it shares third place with \*Monsters Inc \*behind _Up_ and _Incredibles_.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/59 "2010-06-07T16:41:33Z")

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> [@shijinn](#):
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> true but imho _Cast Away_ required bigger guts to make, it literally is a one man show. hmm, i can’t think of any but aren’t there any good modern movies where the main character is a mute?..

Holly Hunter in _The Piano_? Haven’t seen it, but that’s what I’ve read. And of course she did the voice of Elastigirl in _The Incredibles_, too.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-pixar-film/542148/60 "2010-06-07T17:24:52Z")

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While Holly Hunter’s character in _The Piano_ is a mute (by choice, it seems), she has Anna Paquin to be her mouthpiece.

There is almost no audible dialogue in [Silent Movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075222/), of course, but like most real silent movies it makes use of title cards.

On the other hand, Jackie Gleason communicated entirely by facial expression and mime as the title character in [Gigot](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056017/) (if 1962 counts as modern).

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