# Best platonic/unconsummated love affairs

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**Created:** [June 14, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683 "2006-06-14T14:41:42Z")\
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They aren’t as common as sexual love affairs–at least not in fiction–but they do exist. What are some good examples?

In television: Mary Richards & Lou Grant were certainly in love, but never really did anything about it. **Angel** was much better when our favorite vampire with a soul was merely Cordelia’s soul mate, not pining for her. Anybody else got one they care to name?

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/2 "2006-06-14T14:45:59Z")

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Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/3 "2006-06-14T14:46:30Z")

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Gotta be Mulder and Scully on X-files.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/4 "2006-06-14T14:50:41Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> Gotta be Mulder and Scully on X-files.

Didn’t she have his kid?

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/5 "2006-06-14T15:05:09Z")

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I dunno. I stopped watching after Mulder left …

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/6 "2006-06-14T15:08:52Z")

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Cyrano and Roxanne.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/7 "2006-06-14T15:14:17Z")

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Ivanava (likely butchered spelling) and Marcus from B5

Janeway & Chakotay from Voyager

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/8 "2006-06-14T15:52:21Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Ivanava (likely butchered spelling) and Marcus from B5
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> Janeway & Chakotay from Voyager

Ivanova.

G’Kar and Londo Molari.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/9 "2006-06-14T15:56:33Z")

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Gilligan and the Skipper.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/10 "2006-06-14T15:57:39Z")

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Bob Harris/Charlotte, in _Lost in Translation_. Especially if you look up what he whispers to her in the next-to-last scene, on the Tokyo street.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/11 "2006-06-14T16:01:51Z")

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Frodo and Sam from **The Lord of the Rings**. My favourite, though, would be Heathcliff and Catherine in **Wuthering Heights**. Err, well I suppose that’s up to debate. He _did_ dig up her corpse at one point. We don’t know for sure if he didn’t… you know. Yeah.

That’s all I can think of.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/12 "2006-06-14T16:09:32Z")

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John Steed and Emma Peel in **The Avengers**.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/13 "2006-06-14T16:09:36Z")

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Stevens and Miss Kenton in [The Remains of the Day.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107943/) How restrained. How proper. How British. How unbelievably hot for each other.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/14 "2006-06-14T16:10:18Z")

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The unconsummated love affair that initially came to mind was Miss Kenton and Stevens from **The Remains of the Day**. Some of the scenes between the two of them just kill me.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/15 "2006-06-14T16:15:06Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> John Steed and Emma Peel in **The Avengers**.

You think that was unconsummated? You poor, naive, bastard. 😃

Dobie Gillis and Zelda Gilroy.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/16 "2006-06-14T16:17:34Z")

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> [@Stark Raven Mad](#):
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> Bob Harris/Charlotte, in _Lost in Translation_. Especially if you look up what he whispers to her in the next-to-last scene, on the Tokyo street.

I’m curious, what have you found? I can only find Sophia saying it’s intentionally ambiguous, and he says whatever you want him to have said. (Please spoiler tag it if you know otherwise!)

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> [@Clockwork And Candy](#):
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> Frodo and Sam from **The Lord of the Rings**.

I’m going to say this one more time:

FRODO AND SAM WERE NOT IN LOVE!!!

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Sam was in love with Rosie Cotton. RO-SIE COT-TON.

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> My favourite, though, would be Heathcliff and Catherine in **Wuthering Heights**. Err, well I suppose that’s up to debate. He _did_ dig up her corpse at one point. We don’t know for sure if he didn’t… you know. Yeah.
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> That’s all I can think of.

I’ll agree with you there.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/18 "2006-06-14T16:19:00Z")

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Perry Mason and Della Street.

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/19 "2006-06-14T16:20:33Z")

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> [@Clockwork And Candy](#):
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> Frodo and Sam from **The Lord of the Rings**.

Damn! I knew someone would beat me to this…

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/20 "2006-06-14T16:33:21Z")

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> [@Skald the Rhymer](#):
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> I’m going to say this one more time:
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> FRODO AND SAM WERE NOT IN LOVE!!!
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> Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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> Sam was in love with Rosie Cotton. RO-SIE COT-TON.

_cough_Beard!_cough_

😉

I don’t remember if Mal and Inara ever consummated anything on _Firefly_, but that would be one of my nominees.

First, though, would be Thomas Mann’s main character in _Death in Venice_.

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