# Best platonic/unconsummated love affairs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 14, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683 "2006-06-14T14:41:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Monkey\_Chews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/81 "2006-06-15T23:58:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer]  
And Angel & SPIKE? Please. Even post-ensoulment they could just barely stand one another, at best.  
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[Quote=Spike]  
Guess I don’t have to worry about that, ‘cause Angel and me have never been intimate. Except that one time.  
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From the episode _Power Play._

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/82 "2006-06-16T00:17:58Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
😕😕

“Unconsummated?” _R & J?_ Those two got married, spent the night together, and humped like weasels before Romeo split for Padua.  
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To which I just have to say…“Humped like Weasels” would make a helluva name for a rock band.  
Veering back on course, I nominate:

Picard & Dr. Crusher

Matt Dillon & Miss Kitty

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**Author:** ![dwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwyr/32/363_2.png) [@dwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwyr)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/83 "2006-06-16T00:56:18Z")

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Helene and Frank.

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**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/84 "2006-06-16T01:49:50Z")

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Regarding the Gilligan’N’Skipper slash … I just can’t see “little buddy” pitching. Almost certainly, the Skipper would be pitching.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/85 "2006-06-16T03:25:24Z")

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[QUOTE=JThunder]  
Gilligan and the Skipper.  
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We’re talking **unconsummated** affairs, **JThunder!**

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/86 "2006-06-16T03:28:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Push You Down]  
I have friends that I like.. and I have friends who I honestly dearly love in a platonic way.  
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[national lampoon – classic “letters from the editors”]

Dear Editors:

You know, I wasn’t really celibate. In fact, I’ve lost count of the number of times Alcibiades or Aristophanes or Analingus put it to me up the ass. So, if a girl tells you she wants a Platonic relationship, it’s doesn’t mean she doesn’t want to sleep with you. It means she wants you to fuck her up the ass. Immediately.

– Plato  
Ancient Greece

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**Author:** ![Fredescu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/73ab20/32.png) [@Fredescu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fredescu)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/87 "2006-06-16T06:34:15Z")

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How about George Michael and Maebe?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/88 "2006-06-16T11:59:51Z")

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After seeing Smallville last night, I have to say Clark Kent & Lex Luthor.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/89 "2006-06-16T22:07:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Fredescu]  
How about George Michael and Maebe?  
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Well, he did get to second base.  
\<air horn\>

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/90 "2006-06-16T22:28:59Z")

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Fergus and Dil in The Crying Game.

I think there are a lot of male couples because of the strong taboo against homosexuality. That makes the obsticale to consummation practically insurmountable with mainstream fiction.

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/91 "2006-06-16T23:05:12Z")

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Before the films existed, I thought there was something odd between Merry and Pippin, but never between Frodo and Sam. See Frodo and Sam are the epitome of the officer and batman relationships within the WW1 ( and earlier ) UK army which were never unconsumated love affairs (even if the officer and/or batman were gay, they would both seek out partners within the same social niche, not have interest in each other).

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**Author:** ![Locat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Locat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/92 "2006-06-16T23:53:35Z")

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Maybe something is wrong with me, but the first thing I thought:

Fonzie and Mrs. C.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/93 "2006-06-17T00:41:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Locat]  
Maybe something is wrong with me, but the first thing I thought:

Fonzie and Mrs. C.  
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Depends on who you asked; I have an ex-girlfriend who’d say it was CONSUMMATED, as she insists they were having an affair. I always saw it as a mother-son thing though, huh. I even have an insane fanwank explaining it.

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**Author:** ![Locat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Locat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locat)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/94 "2006-06-17T01:47:11Z")

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Oooh, a reply directly to me! Thanks, \*\*Skald \*\* I’m new to this (message boards in general, SDMB specifically), and that made me feel kind of…special. You were my first, I’ll never forget you…perhaps I need to get out more.

I’m not familiar with “fanwank” though I’m assuming it means what I think it does. Where can I read this, it sounds like fun?

My theory on Fonzie and Mrs. C was along the lines that he couldn’t get the Mrs. so he attempted to do the rest of Milwaukee in a sad attempt to fill in the void by not getting the sexy mom-type. But, he did live over the Cunningham garage, which is quite a convenient love shack while Howard was at work so your ex just may have something there.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/95 "2006-06-17T13:06:38Z")

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There is an outrageous outtake with Fonzie & Mr & Mrs C in the Cunningham’s living room. Fonzie starts putting the moves on Mrs C, and The C’s just keep carrying on till finally Mrs C & Fonzie are locked in a big wet kiss.

How Tom Bosley kept a straight face is beyond me.

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**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/96 "2006-06-17T13:43:30Z")

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Dobie Gillis and Zelda Gilroy.  
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Considering there was a reunion movie where it was revealed , they had married and had a son , the question is answered.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/97 "2006-06-17T14:52:05Z")

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I’m suprised no one else has mentioned Jay and Silent Bob.

“I’m Jay, and this is my hetero life-mate Silent Bob.”  
Other choices:  
Detectives Stabler and Benson  
Monk and Captain Stotlemeyer

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/98 "2006-06-20T20:02:38Z")

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[QUOTE=KGS]

Who?  
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J.D. is John Dorian and Turk is Chris Turk from the TV show Scrubs.

Entertainment Weekly listed them as the best relationship on television. They are super nerdy, heterosexual, best friends that love each other dearly.

J.D. even calls Turk(who is black) “brown bear”.

I’m trying to remember if Turk ever calls J.D. “vanilla bear”.

It’s just a great relationship that isn’t really romantic, but is deep and portrayed very well.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/99 "2006-06-20T20:12:53Z")

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“King of Queens” is appropriately named: It has Doug & Deacon, Spence & Danny, and Spence & Arthur

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-platonic-unconsummated-love-affairs/360683/100 "2006-06-20T20:12:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Mahaloth]

I’m trying to remember if Turk ever calls J.D. “vanilla bear”.

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I should have looked that up, then posted.

Apparently, JD has called himself Vanilla Bear as well. So it kind of goes both ways.

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