# Best rock albums post-2000?

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**Created:** [May 23, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-rock-albums-post-2000/405194 "2007-05-23T07:51:06Z")\
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[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=421887) on the best rock album of all time got me thinking - what’s the best rock album of the '00’s so far? Some have said that rock is dead - what albums of the Bush Generation prove them wrong?

Wilco’s **Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?**

The New Pornographer’s **Mass Romantic?**

Modest Mouse’s **Good News For People Who Love Bad News?**

The White Stripes’ **Elephant?**

Yo La Tengo’s **I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass?**

Throw all suggestions out here.

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Radiohead - **Kid A** should definitely be included. I second **Yankee Hotel Foxtrot**. I do love that Yo La Tengo album, but I’m not sure if it’s quite yet on my best of the decade list.

I also nominate:

The Arcade Fire - **Funeral**  
The Hold Steady - **Separation Sunday**  
Sleater-Kinney - **The Woods**  
My Morning Jacket - **Z**  
…And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead - **Source Tags and Codes**

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Until this thread, I hadn’t noticed how few new (post 2000) rock albums I own!

Red Hot Chili Peppers’ **Stadium Arcadium** deserves some consideration.

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No, I take that back. **Stadium Arcadium** has some great songs, but it also has about thirty wasted cuts. The best rock album of the last 8 years is Lily Allen’s **Alright Still**. Every song on that one is killer.

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Post 2000 stuff I own and still play:

_Armchair Apocrypha_ by Andrew Bird  
_The Crane Wife_ by The Decemberists  
_St. Elsewhere_ by Gnarls Barkley  
_Gulag Orkestar_ by Beirut  
_Am A Bird Now_ by Antony And The Johnsons  
_The Mysterious Production Of Eggs_ by Andrew Bird  
_The Woods_ by Sleater-Kinney  
_Howl_ by Black Rebel Motorcycle Club  
_Abattoir Blues / The Lyre Of Orpheus_ by Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds  
_Cee-Lo Green Is The Soul Machine_ by Cee-Lo  
_Chutes Too Narrow_ by The Shins  
_American Idiot_ by Green Day  
_Streetcore_ by Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros  
_Welcome Interstate Managers_ by Fountains Of Wayne  
_The Eminem Show_ by Eminem  
_A Rush Of Blood To The Head_ by Coldplay  
_When I Was Cruel_ by Elvis Costello  
\*Gorillaz \* by Gorillaz  
_Transcendental Blues_ by Steve Earle  
_Lift Your Skinny Fists like Antennas to Heaven_ by Godspeed You Black Emperor!

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Queens of the Stone Age - **Songs for the Deaf** is the ‘best’ for me, really high quality that endures. Their two albums before were epic, but not sure if they qualify for 2000 and onwards. RaTM ‘Battle for Los Angeles’ just misses the 00 cut as well.

[QUOTE=Krokodil]  
No, I take that back. **Stadium Arcadium** has some great songs, but it also has about thirty wasted cuts. The best rock album of the last 8 years is Lily Allen’s **Alright Still**. Every song on that one is killer.  
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C’mon man, Lily Allen? I know rock is a broad church and all but it surely disnae include Lily’s musical nursury rhymes.

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[QUOTE=The Cocky Watchman]

C’mon man, Lily Allen? I know rock is a broad church and all but it surely disnae include Lily’s musical nursury rhymes.  
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You don’t bat an eye at Cee-Lo and Steve Earl described as “rock,” but Lily Allen is somehow outside the gate? Yeah, we draw the line in different places.

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Talking about straight-up rock, some contenders (in no order):

Wilco, _Yankee Hotel Foxtrot_  
all three Hold Steady albums  
New Pornographers, _Electric Version_  
The White Stripes, _White Blood Cells_ or _Elephant_  
Spoon, _Kill the Moonlight_  
Death Cab for Cutie, _Transatlanticism_  
Fountains of Wayne, _Welcome Interstate Managers_ (in a pure summertime confection sort of way)

Slightly more out there:  
The Arcade Fire, _Funeral_  
Radiohead, _Kid A_

If we’re expanding it enough to include Lily Allen, I’d have to throw in:  
Sufjan Stevens, _Illinois_  
Flaming Lips, _Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots_

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Strictly from a rock perspective:

**The Black Parade** , My Chemical Romance  
**In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3** , Coheed and Cambria  
**Cities** , Anberlin  
**We, the Vehicles** Maritime

I’d like to second FoW and Modest Mouse, too.  
There’s a bunch of other stuff I’d add, too, although they’re qualified thru emo, pop, and/or techno rather than thru their rock chops alone:  
**Hopes and Fears** Keane  
**Building a Better \_\_\_\_** , Park.  
**Give Up** , The Postal Service  
**A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out** , Panic! at the Disco

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Either **In Absentia** or **Deadwing** , by Porcupine Tree.

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I’ll second

**Yoshimi** by _The Flaming Lips_ and

**American Idiot** by _Green Day_

I’ll add

**Wolfmother** by _Wolfmother_.

**Audioslave** by _Audioslave_

and a nagging feeling that I’m leaving off something obvious. . .

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I’ll toss in **All That You Can’t Leave Behind** by _U2_. MUCH better than **How to dismantle. . .**

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No Franz Ferdinand, “Franz Ferdinand” love?

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Three that occur to me are:

**Dungen** :\* Ta Det Lugnt \*

**Hot Snakes** : _Audit in Progress_

**Broadcast** : _Tender Buttons_

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[QUOTE=Krokodil]  
The best rock album of the last 8 years is Lily Allen’s **Alright Still**. Every song on that one is killer.  
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I don’t mean to derail this thread, but is Lily Allen really all that? I loved “Smile,” but I’m having a hard time believing the whole album delivers that much. And yet, I remain intrigued…

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My top two are pretty firm:

1. Sleater-Kinney: _The Woods_
2. Radiohead: _Kid A_

After that, it’s hard to rank them, but the rest of my top ten would probably consist of:

Arctic Monkeys: _Favourite Worst Nightmare_  
The Futureheads: _News and Tributes_  
The Libertines: _The Libertines_  
Maxïmo Park: _A Certain Trigger_  
Oasis: _Don’t Believe the Truth_  
Radiohead: _Hail to the Thief_  
The Shins: _Chutes Too Narrow_  
Wilco: _a ghost is born_

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And as for me, I’ll vote for:

Belle and Sebastian: _Dear Catastrophe Waitress_  
New Pornographers: _Electric Version_  
Rilo Kiley: _More Adventurous_  
The Shins: _Chutes Too Narrow_  
White Stripes: _White Blood Cells_  
The Decemberists: _Picaresque_ and/or _The Crane Wife_  
Dresden Dolls: Self-titled  
Tom Waits: _Real Gone_

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Without listing albums anything by the Arctic Monkeys, White Stripes, Franz Ferdinand, Coldplay, Raconteurs, Fallout Boy or Radiohead is what comes to my mind.

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> I don’t mean to derail this thread, but is Lily Allen really all that? I loved “Smile,” but I’m having a hard time believing the whole album delivers that much. And yet, I remain intrigued…

I think “Smile” is one of the weakest songs on the album. “LDN” and “Knock 'Em Out” are the real winners.

It’s one of the best albums of this year, no doubt, but I wouldn’t call it a rock album.

Oh, and add Sleater-Kinney to my list above–definitely _The Woods_, and _All Hands on the Bad One_ if we’re counting albums released _in_ 2000.

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[QUOTE=John DiFool]  
Either In Absentia or Deadwing, by Porcupine Tree.  
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Couldn’t agree more. Don’t forget _Fear of a Blank Planet_! (Just saw the tour for that one! ;))

I’ll second:  
_American Idiot_ - Greenday  
_Give Up_ - The Postal Service

And add:  
_In Your Honor_ - Foo Fighters  
_Demon Days_ - Gorillaz  
Anything by _[Falconer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falconer_%28band%29)_  
_Haughty Melodic_ - Mike Doughty  
_With Teeth_ - NiN  
_Steal This Album!_ - System of a Down  
_Lateralus_ - Tool

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