# Best "Screw you, Nazis!" Ever - I love this video! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 14, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698 "2010-07-14T18:48:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/61 "2010-07-16T05:36:03Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > God, this place fucking sucks. It’s not this place, Ogre, it’s people. People suck, god love 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/62 "2010-07-16T05:37:30Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > CopyRIGHT I know, I edited my post before your correction. > [@](#): > > and they didn’t, they danced. His daughter made the video and posted it. Without permission to use the song, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/63 "2010-07-16T05:38:56Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I don’t understand how this could be viewed as anything other than a middle finger solute to Hitler. “We’re alive and well and you’re Thousand Year Reich lies in the ash heap of history.” Sure it is, but it’s still kind of hollow since Hitler can’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/64 "2010-07-16T05:40:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The Nazis who put this guy in tht camp are dead and are incapable of caring that he dances to shitty 70’s disco songs. > > I’m not saying there’s anything WRONG with it, and it’s fine if it makes him feel better, but it can’t be accurately characterized as revenge. Those who victimized him are beyond the reach of any vengeance. I say that with sadness, not contempt. I can’t help seeing the act as futile. Dio, how the hell do you arrive at this conclusion? If HE is alive, how does it follow that ALL the Nazis are dead? Hello? We can’t know that all the Nazis are dead until about… 2025? Depending on who you count… if you count brownshirts, hell, we can’t be sure they are all gone until maybe 2030, 2040… they got 'em young. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/65 "2010-07-16T05:51:09Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I know, I edited my post before your correction. > > Without permission to use the song, apparently. And…? MCB: grandkids can’t participate Me: They can do as they please. Dio: they can’t violate copyright Me: they didn’t, mom made the video Dio: without permission Dio… are ya just having a bad day? Week? Year? I swear it’s like I hear that Debbie Downer “wah wah” sound every time I read a post of yours… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/66 "2010-07-16T06:00:40Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Dio, how the hell do you arrive at this conclusion? If HE is alive, how does it follow that ALL the Nazis are dead? Hello? Bah. He was a kid at the time. His captors were not. They’re all dead as doornails. Can you show a cite for any of the Nazis at Auschwitz still being alive and at large? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/67 "2010-07-16T06:13:20Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Sure it is, but it’s still kind of hollow since Hitler can’t see it. I thought of that after I posted it. There are still a bunch of Nazi wannabe’s that deserve a distraction from their tiny penises. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/68 "2010-07-16T06:16:09Z")
I would like to believe so, but what are the odds any ancient, still living Nazis are watching youtube? ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/69 "2010-07-16T06:33:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Bah. He was a kid at the time. His captors were not. They’re all dead as doornails. Can you show a cite for any of the Nazis at Auschwitz still being alive and at large? Plenty of 21st century nazi skinheads to go around to appreciate the video. The old man in the video is celebrating life. Anyone complaining about that has ceased living. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/70 "2010-07-16T06:35:12Z")
I’m not complaining about it, but apparently some other holocaust survivors are. ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/71 "2010-07-16T06:37:30Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Plenty of 21st century nazi skinheads to go around to appreciate the video. Plenty of nazi skinheads won’t give a fuck about this video and will dismiss it as _memorial pornography_. ---
**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/72 "2010-07-16T09:39:39Z")
No, **Dio** ’s right, all commentary on the Holocaust is meaningless and pointless unless a former member of the National Socialist party personally views it. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/73 "2010-07-16T09:41:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Bah. He was a kid at the time. His captors were not. They’re all dead as doornails. Can you show a cite for any of the Nazis at Auschwitz still being alive and at large? DIO asking for cites? I don’t need any. The war ended in 1945, 65 years ago. Any Nazi who was at that time between the ages of 18 and 40 could be alive today. (making them age 83 to 105 there aare many tens of thousands of centenarians in the world, not hard to imagine a few Nazis in there) The man in the video is 90 and he’s traveling, dancing, lucid and in good health, appearing in a You Tube video. Why you think it’s impossible for there to be any 85 or 95 year old Nazis alive and capable of _watching_ one is truly a mystery. (Especially since, from a health standpoint, concentration camp survivors had been through hell and stressed their physical bodies terribly, which could be reasonably thought to make them more fragile and likely to die earlier than Nazis who didn’t suffer like that.) ---
**Author:** ![BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/74 "2010-07-16T10:02:35Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > [Here you go](http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/7928701/auschwitz-dance-video-causes-outrage) > [@article](#): > > The video has created a furore in the European and British media… I see what you did there… ---
**Author:** ![Khaki\_Campbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Khaki\_Campbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khaki_Campbell)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/75 "2010-07-16T12:31:24Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Why you think it’s impossible for there to be any 85 or 95 year old Nazis alive and capable of _watching_ one is truly a mystery. (Especially since, from a health standpoint, concentration camp survivors had been through hell and stressed their physical bodies terribly, which could be reasonably thought to make them more fragile and likely to die earlier than Nazis who didn’t suffer like that.) Oh, give it a fucking rest. Even if they are, 65 years after, they don’t give a shit anymore. They had stopped being Nazis long ago. Of course, this does hurt your little Manichean worldview, but that’s the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/76 "2010-07-16T14:33:37Z")
All the Nazis who mattered, and who actually had anything to do with the camps are dead. It’s ridiculous to suggest that this tape is going to cause any of them, even hypothetically living ones, any distress. It isn’t any kind of real payback. It seems to have distressed more survivors than Nazis. I don’t think it’s as outrageous or “disgusting” as some of the survivors are calling it, but if it bothers any survivors at all, I think it fails as any kind of statement. I also think it’s kind of tacky for the grandkids to horn in on the video like that and suck up attention for themselves, especially since it appears that granddad might not have been all that into it himself. I suspect this might have been something his family members pushed him into for their own aggrandizment, not for his. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/77 "2010-07-16T14:51:08Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > What? Disturb someone who is feeling like hell? How dare anyone! It _is_ pretty rude to disturb other people when they are grieving. I know you’re trying to make out that those of us who are not in love with this video are like “screw you survivor, we love Nazis!”, but that’s not it. I have no problem with people living joyfully, celebrating survival, etc - hell, I have no issue with the underlying message of the video (ie. Nazis suck), and nobody else here does either. I just find the way they chose to do this kind of offensive. > [@](#): > > The Joyful People want to celebrate life, and joy, and silliness and laughter and music and dancing as a refutation of the Bummer To End All Bummers. That is their absolute right, and the only way anyone can feel insulted or disrespected or hurt is if they wanna be. Ah, the old “if I insult you and your feelings are hurt, that is your fault, not mine” argument. Look, even people who are overall joyful and happy can act somber and respectful when the situation requires. If you go to a funeral without a big grin plastered all over your face, are you one of the dreaded ‘Bummer People’ too? Do you sing and dance through every part of your life? Not every place and time is right for smiling and prancing around, and I happen to think that a mass grave of your former contemporaries who were less lucky than you is a particularly bad choice of places to act like that. And apparently some of the other survivors agree. Of course it’s a free world. They are free to do that if they want to. You are free to like it and watch it every day and feel warm fuzzies if you want to. But that means I am also free to look at it and think it’s a bit disrespectful. And that doesn’t make me a big bummer person who is never joyful and loves Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/78 "2010-07-16T14:52:54Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Precisely! Exactly. On the nose. ding! Ding ding! Give the girl a cigar! That’s why, rather than offensive, it’s wonderful and thrilling and moving and delightful, all things which are pretty much the opposite of offensive. Also, if you think \*\*Guin \*\*is agreeing with you, I’d reread what you quoted here. Note the :dubious:. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/79 "2010-07-16T15:00:24Z")
It was just silly. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698/80 "2010-07-16T15:02:17Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > Also, if you think \*\*Guin \*\*is agreeing with you, I’d reread what you quoted here. Note the :dubious:. If you think Stoid believes that Guin agrees with him, them you’re probably the one who needs to reread the exchange. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-screw-you-nazis-ever-i-love-this-video/546698.md?page=5)