# Best-Sourced Documentary on 9/11 Truth Yet: "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 26, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704 "2015-02-26T20:42:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![manfromuncle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@manfromuncle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manfromuncle)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/1 "2015-02-26T20:42:26Z")

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The viral documentary, getting to half a million hits on Youtube alone. All claims based on verifiable sources.

Part 3 posted first, as it jumps right into Ground Zero.

The Truth Movement is not only not fading away, it is getting stronger.

Part 3- click to play  
Part 1 - click to play

Part 2 - click to play

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/2 "2015-02-26T20:45:32Z")

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You can verify the claims were made by these sites?  
Reported.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/3 "2015-02-26T20:47:49Z")

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I like the blurred text. Very convincing.

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**Author:** ![manfromuncle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@manfromuncle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manfromuncle)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/4 "2015-02-26T20:49:14Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You can verify the claims were made by these sites?  
> Reported.

Each claim in the documentary is accompanied by the supporitng source. Be a man and try to rebut one specific claim, instead of running to mama when you hear truth you don’t like.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/5 "2015-02-26T20:51:42Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> Each claim in the documentary is accompanied by the supporitng source. Be a man and try to rebut one specific claim, instead of running to mama when you hear truth you don’t like.

Make some claims to rebut, I’m not watching hours of videos on your say so.

Man up and make your case.

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**Author:** ![manfromuncle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@manfromuncle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manfromuncle)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/6 "2015-02-26T20:53:53Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Make some claims to rebut, I’m not watching hours of videos on your say so.
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> Man up and make your case.

The subject of the post is the documentary and its content. Stop watching when you see a claim you can rebut and post it. You can’t.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/7 "2015-02-26T20:54:01Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> Each claim in the documentary is accompanied by the supporitng source. Be a man and try to rebut one specific claim, instead of running to mama when you hear truth you don’t like.

'Round these parts we don’t take too kindly to OPs that consist solely of dropping a Youtube link without substansive comment.

Why don’t _you_ tell us in _your_ words what _you_ think is substantially established by this video instead of demanding that we give up an hour of our time to hear the same warmed-over bits of dogma that were refuted a decade ago?

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/8 "2015-02-26T20:55:53Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> 'Round these parts we don’t take too kindly to OPs that consist solely of dropping a Youtube link without substansive comment.
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> Why don’t _you_ tell us in _your_ words what _you_ think is substantially established by this video instead of demanding that **we give up an hour of our time** to hear the same warmed-over bits of dogma that were refuted a decade ago?

Five hours.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/9 "2015-02-26T20:56:28Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> The subject of the post is the documentary and its content. Stop watching when you see a claim you can rebut and post it. You can’t.

Why don’t you point to a specific claim and the evidence that backs it up?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/10 "2015-02-26T20:58:06Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> The viral documentary, getting to half a million hits on Youtube alone. All claims based on verifiable sources.
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> Part 3 posted first, as it jumps right into Ground Zero.
> 
> The Truth Movement is not only not fading away, it is getting stronger.
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> Part 3- click to play  
> Part 1 - click to play  
> Part 2 - click to play

Have you read any of the threads we’ve done on this subject already? Can you tell us if these videos bring anything new to the table?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/11 "2015-02-26T20:59:49Z")

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What I really want to know is if there are CIA blacksites involved.

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**Author:** ![manfromuncle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@manfromuncle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manfromuncle)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/12 "2015-02-26T21:00:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> 'Round these parts we don’t take too kindly to OPs that consist solely of dropping a Youtube link without substansive comment.
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> Why don’t _you_ tell us in _your_ words what _you_ think is substantially established by this video instead of demanding that we give up an hour of our time to hear the same warmed-over bits of dogma that were refuted a decade ago?

Like I said watch until you find something you can rebut, if you are so confident then that shouldn’t take long.

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**Author:** ![manfromuncle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@manfromuncle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manfromuncle)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/13 "2015-02-26T21:01:20Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Have you read any of the threads we’ve done on this subject already? Can you tell us if these videos bring anything new to the table?

What is new is every claim is supported by solid documentation. Are you afraid you might see something that will persuade you to change your mind?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/14 "2015-02-26T21:02:40Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> What is new is every claim is supported by solid documentation. Are you afraid you might see something that will persuade you to change your mind?

Fine. Name some of these claims and the solid documentation that supports them.

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**Author:** ![manfromuncle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@manfromuncle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manfromuncle)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/15 "2015-02-26T21:07:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Fine. Name some of these claims and the solid documentation that supports them.

Ok. Geothermal imaging showing hotspots of 2800 F, and higher, the temperature of melted steel. Ready for: that was kerosene and smoldering office junk doing that.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/16 "2015-02-26T21:08:39Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> What is new is every claim is supported by solid documentation. Are you afraid you might see something that will persuade you to change your mind?

Not going to watch random hours-long video from random internet person. If I did that I’d never be able to do anything else. You’re not special, so I’m not going to give your video special treatment.

But I will read your claims. If you want to make an assertion about something, and back it up, then maybe we’ll consider it.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/17 "2015-02-26T21:09:03Z")

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Let me guess, 9/11 Truther CT video? If so, nothing to see here…yet another drive by You Must Watch This VIDEO! on a subject that has been debated to death and I can guarantee that every ‘new’ and fascinating point has already been debunked in triplicate.

If the OP would like to lay out just one point that s/he finds compelling then we can tear that one down and move on. What will it be? The ‘steel doesn’t melt at 1500 degrees!’, or ‘this MUST be explosive demolition with magic nano-thermite!’? There are so many ridiculous claims to choose from and I’m sure we are all waiting with bated (or baited) breath in hopeful anticipation of the next revelation!

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/18 "2015-02-26T21:09:37Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> Ok. Geothermal imaging showing hotspots of 2800 F…

No, they didn’t.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/19 "2015-02-26T21:11:50Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> Ok. Geothermal imaging showing hotspots of 2800 F, and higher, the temperature of melted steel. Ready for: that was kerosene and smoldering office junk doing that.

Jet fuel is kerosene based, what’s your point?

You need to fully lay out what you’re trying to prove. Your post doesn’t state what you felt was significant.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-sourced-documentary-on-9-11-truth-yet-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor/713704/20 "2015-02-26T21:13:34Z")

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> [@manfromuncle](#):
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> The Truth Movement is not only not fading away, it is getting stronger.

Cue the theme from _Rocky_:

da-DA-DAAAAAA da-DA-daaaaaaaa

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