Lando: You’ve got to be able to get a reading on that shield, up or down!
Nib Nub: <alien speech>
Lando: How can they be jamming us if they don’t know…that we’re coming?
Too bad the actor who played Lando in X-Wing Alliance completely botched all of his lines.
ug, imho possibly the dumbest line ever regarding space battle. before they ever got to that point I was wondering what the Frak was up with the drive in circles crap that was going on and I havent ever been Involved in a space battle. totaly blew my suspension of disbelief, there is simple no way an experienced captain of a space ship wouldnt have resorted to 3d tactics instantly.
Spock: He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates 2 dimensional thinking.
Khan had never piloted a spaceship before, or at least, he’d only had a fraction of the time in the seat as Kirk, and so made mistakes like that despite his vastly greater intellectual and physical properties.
They were certainly cinematic. In Homeworld: Cataclysm you could get a camera view from the front of the ships, if you did that on a ship in a fighter squadron during a large battle it was a really cool experience. Course, then I usually lost since I couldn’t give any orders…
you’re right about Kahn…so explain why Kirk, a seasoned vetran of many space battles didnt take directly to 3d tactics? it took Spock to point out the current 2d tactics the enterprise was employing were stupid. simply not something I can buy.
(and this is from friggin ST, where suspension of disbelief should be the name of the theme song)
I’m not sure that’s a fair complaint for WoK, at least not in the Mutara Nebula sequence. The point of Kirk’s tactics there were that Enterprise was lacking long-range sensors and shields. He had to lure Khan, on the Reliant (oh god i’m such a geek) into the nebula so that his sensors wouldn’t work either and they’d be even.
In that particular movie, you’re right. In the Mutara Nebula battle, everybody’s sensors are out and everything is within visual range. And in the earlier battle, Kirk and Co. don’t know Khan has taken over the Reliant so they have no reason not to let it pass right alongside.
But lots of other Trek battles have established that it’s SOP to hold your fire until you can see the whites of their eyes.