# Best/worst regions of the US.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 8, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235 "2019-04-08T19:33:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/81 "2019-04-11T12:45:52Z")

</div>

> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
>
> Not very, at least in the large cities. But even there, people will acknowledge others with a “Good Morning” or the like, and not just ignore you completely like CA. Certain upwardly mobile suburbs play into the, “And where do you worship?”, more than others. …

Thanks for the very forthright discussion. I imagine Texans might “display” their loyalty more when they are AWAY from home than when at home… IME, it is pretty rare for folk to outwardly display their loyalty to their home state as much as Texans do. I dunno - maybe a college cap or t-shirt, but not so much of the “I consider myself a Texan first, and an American second” attitude. Even if only by a minority, it is a bit of a turn-off (to me, at least.)

The church it is a pretty big turn off to this nontheist. When I lived in Valparaiso, IN, which church you attended was a big deal, and nonattendance definitely restricted your social circle. Of course, growing up in Chicago in the 60s, EVERYONE was catholic, and parishes was one way of defining neighborhoods. My personal preference would be to live somewhere that a single religion were not dominant.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/82 "2019-04-11T13:02:11Z")

</div>

Stay away from Colorado It’s terrible. Ashes and dust and thirst there is, and pits pits pits, and orcses, thousands of orcses, and always the great eye watching, watching! Washington is similar except it is positively riddled with active volcanoes. New Mexico is pretty sweet though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/83 "2019-04-11T13:17:41Z")

</div>

> [@senoy](#):
>
> Nah, politics are about social posturing. They are simply signalers that are the newest form of segregation. Just a new way to classify ourselves and form in-groups and out-groups. In many ways, it’s simply the newest form of secular religion where we imbue political disagreement with universal themes of good and evil. “Obviously, I could never live in a red/blue state because those people are evil and backward.” “I would disown a child that married a Democrat/Republican, those people can’t be trusted and will raise my grandchildren to be immoral.” Such things are ridiculous once we get past our prejudices to think such things, but at the same time they are natural and part of human nature. Grouping into tribes is what humans do, so while it would be nice if we weren’t inherently flawed, unfortunately an inherent part of the human condition is that we are.

There is a lot of truth in what you write.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/84 "2019-04-11T13:48:41Z")

</div>

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
>
> [https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/yael-t-abouhalkah/article328331.html](https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/yael-t-abouhalkah/article328331.html)
> 
> By my reading, there have been efforts to fight the teaching of good science in Kansas many, many times (this is just one example). These anti science efforts are certainly much more likely to succeed in Kansas than in New York, or Arlington VA (my town), or many other progressive cities.
> 
> Further, by my reading and interactions with folks from small towns, gay kids, or Muslim kids, or many other groups, are more likely to face bigotry in their communities in places like Kansas than progressive cities.

So you admit you carefully pick and choose what you read and then want to believe. O K!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/85 "2019-04-11T13:51:44Z")

</div>

> [@senoy](#):
>
> Nah, politics are about social posturing. They are simply signalers that are the newest form of segregation. Just a new way to classify ourselves and form in-groups and out-groups. In many ways, it’s simply the newest form of secular religion where we imbue political disagreement with universal themes of good and evil. “Obviously, I could never live in a red/blue state because those people are evil and backward.” “I would disown a child that married a Democrat/Republican, those people can’t be trusted and will raise my grandchildren to be immoral.” Such things are ridiculous once we get past our prejudices to think such things, but at the same time they are natural and part of human nature. Grouping into tribes is what humans do, so while it would be nice if we weren’t inherently flawed, unfortunately an inherent part of the human condition is that we are.

Very true. It allows one to be a snob because THEY dont live somewhere like in Kansas.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/86 "2019-04-11T13:59:58Z")

</div>

> [@dalej42](#):
>
> I pay $1780 a month for a studio apartment and I’m aware that’s more than many people pay for a mortgage on a house. I’m glad I have the income to afford it.

You ought to check out [these apartments in Overland Park called Water Walk](https://www.waterwalkoverlandpark.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwy7vlBRACEiwAZvdx9ow8N0CkimHYctj6Olo9826GeMtb3iakpizoB7FumcE2iZYQ0jwodRoCdcYQAvD_BwE)where you could have a 3 bedroom apartment for that same price.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/87 "2019-04-11T14:26:20Z")

</div>

> [@senoy](#):
>
> That said, I love Appalachia (the West Virginia part anyway.) I often joke that my umbilical cord only stretches to the state border. My wife is from Maryland and doesn’t get it, but I think she has learned to love it (although she would prefer nicer weather, but what can one do?) I like cornbread dinners and people sharing their garden veggies and neighbors mowing your lawn and kids and dogs running free and the smell of woodstoves and ramps and people stopping when driving in opposite directions just to chat and the cars behind them getting out and talking too. I like walking on the road and ten cars stop and offer you a ride and then offer to cook you dinner when you take them up on it. I like church socials and gospel sings. I like walking 10 miles into the woods and falling asleep with my head on a log. I like fishing and hiking and rafting and skiing and biking and swimming in a clear river or floating down it on an old inner tube. I like lightning bugs and sun brewed tea and ramps and venison and trout and squirrel gravy and morels. I love story-telling on a front porch and old men whittling and old women quilting and both gossiping about Jess Carr’s new son-in-law. I like families that have lived on the same plot of land for 150 years on a road named after them and everyone knows their grandma and grandpa and all of their cousins and when they all get together, you know there’s gonna be a good time and they’ll probably invite you too because your daddy and their uncle knew each other since both were knee high to a grasshopper, so you’re practically kin anyway and your daddy was a good man who never had a bad word to say about anybody and your mama might have had a few bad words, but she meant them well and her blackberry cobbler is too delicious not to invite her. Anyway, it’s a nice place. Things are harder than they used to be and drugs have ravished a lot of our structures, but we’ve survived worse and we figure we’ll survive this too.

You gave me a lot of fond memories of WV, used to visit family and vacation there. It was like going back in time 20 years.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/88 "2019-04-11T14:31:13Z")

</div>

> [@Corry\_El](#):
>
> But the greater problem is the kind of assumption made in an explanation like yours. I don’t want to be proving how I’m not an obnoxious NY’er (I’m the epitome of pussy cat in real life, though still a very NY kind of guy, real not mythical NY kind of guy); prove how I’m not trying to change my new Southern home into NY, etc. I just don’t want to deal with any of that. Of course the view there is different. Of course most people there think they are welcoming and only demanding an absolute minimum of new comers. That’s typical of a different view across a culture gap. Nobody is right or wrong, I’m just not going. 🙂

No offense but that makes you sound like an obnoxious NY’er with a chip on their shoulder. 😉

However I don’t think Southerners demand an absolute minimum of newcomers, I think they demand they slow down and lower their expectations. You can have small towns and woods and fields and a slow way of life, or you can have crowds and services and lots of activities, it’s hard to have both.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/89 "2019-04-11T15:42:14Z")

</div>

I would think getting out of your bubble would be the best thing if you really think your way of thinking is superior and want to make the world a better place.

You’re not going to make a single difference in the world at a local level where everyone agrees with you. And a state will flip much faster with a steady stream of transplants.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/90 "2019-04-11T16:34:12Z")

</div>

> [@Urbanredneck](#):
>
> So you admit you carefully pick and choose what you read and then want to believe. O K!

No, but if you’re not actually interested in a dissenting opinion, then feel free to ignore mine. I was just providing my honest thoughts on the subject. No big deal. You can love your home town, and others might rationally think it’s not best for them or their children, and those two possibilities are not necessarily in conflict.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/91 "2019-04-11T17:01:01Z")

</div>

> [@control-z](#):
>
> No offense but that makes you sound like an obnoxious NY’er with a chip on their shoulder. 😉
> 
> However I don’t think Southerners demand an absolute minimum of newcomers, I think they demand they slow down and lower their expectations. You can have small towns and woods and fields and a slow way of life, or you can have crowds and services and lots of activities, it’s hard to have both.

And so we can go around in a circle endlessly if you like. 🙂 Because it’s a culture divide and people on different sides of it just don’t see it the same way. It makes neither of them wrong. It just means I have no interest in dealing with that gap, so no interest in living in the South, end of story.

I don’t find it’s the same in slower less crowded places in the North. Even after 150+ yrs since the Civil War, to some degree North is North, South is South. I didn’t feel as out of place for example in rural Minnesota where my daughter used to live. That’s the North, where I’m from, though a slightly different variation.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/92 "2019-04-11T17:22:02Z")

</div>

> [@Rick Kitchen](#):
>
> As a native born Californian who has lived most of his life here, I have never encountered any such straw man Californian.
> 
> > [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
> >
> > And I lived there for 25 years, including college and high school there, and did.

Maybe you carry yourself like a Texan, Gray Ghost. They hate that.

> [@Corry\_El](#):
>
> Even after 150+ yrs since the Civil War, to some degree North is North, South is South. I didn’t feel as out of place for example in rural Minnesota where my daughter used to live. That’s the North, where I’m from, though a slightly different variation.

But seriously, this is gospel. On the strange day I find myself in The South, I am always looking over my shoulder, feeling like I am just being tolerated and that there are dozens of people ready to guide me northward the second I look like I find something disagreeable. I’ve never felt that way in The North. Although I can never seem to get out of Iowa fast enough.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/93 "2019-04-11T17:53:51Z")

</div>

Oregon and Washington are naturally beautiful states to live in. Mild climate, few serious storms, wet season/dry season but not 4 defined seasons, awesome ocean beaches, forests, mountains, high desert, they have it all within a few hours drive.

And they have reliably blue politics. But if it is important to you that you are surrounded by like-minded people that agree with a liberal point of view, then you are going to need to stay in the urban areas along the I-5 corridor, because the rest of these states are red as hell. To get out and enjoy all this natural wonder means mingling with people who are not in agreement with your circle of friends. Much of the country is like that.

Red/blue voting map by county from 2016.

> **[2016 US Presidential Election Map By County & Vote Share](https://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/)**
>
> Map created by Magog the Ogre via Wikimedia The map above shows the county level and vote share results of the 2016 US Presidential Election. The darker the blue the more a county went for Hilary Clinton and the darker the red the more the county...

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/94 "2019-04-11T18:07:49Z")

</div>

> [@senoy](#):
>
> Nothing at all wrong with it, other than it seems to be at odds with your previous contention. You challenged me about living in a state whose laws don’t meet my personal views. You admit though that your states laws don’t meet your personal views and really, you’re just looking for social signifiers. That blunts the force of your original proposition.

When did I say that?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![senoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@senoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senoy)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/95 "2019-04-11T18:36:14Z")

</div>

> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
>
> But seriously, this is gospel. On the strange day I find myself in The South, I am always looking over my shoulder, feeling like I am just being tolerated and that there are dozens of people ready to guide me northward the second I look like I find something disagreeable. I’ve never felt that way in The North. Although I can never seem to get out of Iowa fast enough.

Strange. I usually find the south friendly and more forgiving. Although Minnesota is also friendly and forgiving. Iowa has always struck me as weirdly insular for some reason. I have never met an Iowan that was blatantly rude, but I think they tend to be laconic at least to tourists and so come across as neither friendly nor unfriendly-just hard to read and so uncomfortable.

New York City always makes me feel like I’m in peoples’ ways and that I am a bother to be tolerated. If you spend ten seconds deciding whether you want sausage or pepperoni pizza, they act like you need to be taken out and shot. They have an expectation that everyone knows the hidden rules and if you don’t, you’re mentally incompetent.

Upstate New York has a little brother complex. If you talk to people from the Finger Lakes or Rochester, they have a tendency to think that everything there is the greatest thing ever invented and by extension everything not from there is inferior.

Boston I find to be friendlier, but people are very rules driven. If a restaurant closes at 4, then you’re kicked out at 4. They’re more forgiving though and more likely to engage you in casual conversation.

Chicago I find to be incredibly racist, even moreso than the south and it’s really in your face kind of stuff. I don’t have a clue as to why, but they have no compunctions saying that they avoid certain parts of town or ascribing behaviors to a racial group. I don’t even see that in the south where racism is more systemic than blatant.

Southern cities in contrast are more forgiving of error and generally have a more laid back air to them. If you’re in NoLa, everyone seems ready to party at the drop of a hat and you’re invited. Very open people.

Savannah and Charleston are nearly tropical in their outlooks. Very laid back and welcoming. They are slower paced and pleasant places.

I like lots of the western cities too, but I might be the only person in the world that hates Seattle. I think largely because Seattle is right next door to Vancouver and Victoria which are amazing cities, so Seattle kind of sucks in comparison. I like Denver’s vibe, very young and new feeling. Like a place that is just about ready to come into its own, but you’re there before it does. Los Angeles feels like it’s a place that doesn’t really exist. It feels like its entire culture is what a group of people have decided that its culture should be rather than something that actually developed. It’s very strange and I dislike it. I love San Diego on the other hand, I also think its culture has some fake elements and it has way more transients than I’d like, but I think that the blend of Mexican and more stereotypical ‘American’ culture is done just right. If you forced me to live in California, I think San Diego would be my spot.

Texas cities pretty much suck though. I can’t think of any that I particularly love. San Antonio has some pretty architecture I guess. Austin is a city that feels completely comprised of transplants that really, really want to be cool, but just aren’t. It’s OK. Dallas/FW thinks that it’s something that it isn’t. It mixes that upstate New York arrogance with downstate New York rudeness, but will tell you that it isn’t. It and Houston are probably the worst cities south of the Mason-Dixon line (though I have no love for Atlanta either.)

Anyway, I think I’ve really gone off the rails, but it seems in the spirit of the thread.

If you made me to choose a place to live in the US other than my own, I think that Savannah and the Georgia coast would probably be the top of my list of places to move. After that, probably the upper midwest - Minnesota or Wisconsin. I would follow that up with San Diego.

If you allowed me to pick the places that I absolutely would not want to live, probably New York City would top the list, close behind would be the entire state of Texas and I think Phoenix would be number three (but Flagstaff is nice), though Los Angeles would be in close contention.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![senoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@senoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senoy)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/96 "2019-04-11T18:49:26Z")

</div>

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
>
> When did I say that?

You said in response to my statement that politics are largely about social posturing

> [@](#):
>
> Do you want to live in a state whose laws violate your personal views?

The implication being that you would choose your state based on laws that don’t violate your personal views and that it is more than social posturing. When I rebutted that all states have laws that violate my personal views and I would wager yours as well and that you are not really choosing based upon laws that violate your personal views, but rather one or two social signifying laws in an effort to appear to be a certain type of person. Rather than challenge my rebuttal, you said, “What’s wrong with that?” I was merely reiterating the crux of my argument that you’re really seeking to make social statements with your politics.

I will clarify my position that I believe you (and not just you, but people as a whole) are choosing to object or support a very small subset of laws based on social utility and the laws you are picking are ways to demonstrate your social class rather than really caring about the impact of a complete body of laws. The issue is not that Kansas teaches intelligent design and this somehow makes the schools inferior, after all, Kansas schools rank fairly highly in test scores and US rankings, higher than either New York or California, so its policies do not seem to be impacting the quality of education. Rather, the objection is that Kansas by doing this is signaling that it is a ‘class’ (where we mean group, not economic class) of people that is perhaps more religious and you object to that class of people. Your objection is to a type of person and not a particular law.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snake\_Plissken\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Snake\_Plissken\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snake_Plissken_1)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/97 "2019-04-12T13:44:09Z")

</div>

I currently live in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Seven years now. First place I ever lived in the US where English is a second language. If you live in south Florida you better become conversant in Spanish.  
I lived on Sullivan’s Island, just outside of Charleston, SC, for six years. Parts of South Carolina still refer to the Civil War as ‘the recent unpleasantness’. My wife was a doc there. We met all sorts of ‘upper crust’ Charlestonians that were so kind and pleasant to your face but would stick a knife between your shoulder blades if they found it somehow advantageous. We used to visit Savannah, GA A LOT to get away from them. Now THERE’S a city! Fun, fun, fun.  
Spent a lot of time in LA: Too hot, too much traffic, too much everything.  
Portland, OR is fun but wet 8 months out of the year. Lots to do if you like hiking…and now a great foodie destination.  
But I gotta say, if I could live on the north shore of Oahu…Sunset Beach…heaven on Earth.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/98 "2019-04-12T19:45:17Z")

</div>

Chicago is a city where their are alot of good jobs especially for people working their way up in a corporation. Most major corporations, if their corporate headquarters are not there, at least have a major branch in Chicago.

Which is also why most people I know have connections in Chicago such as a relative living there or they used to live there.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/99 "2019-04-12T19:47:57Z")

</div>

> [@Snake\_Plissken](#):
>
> I currently live in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Seven years now. First place I ever lived in the US where English is a second language. If you live in south Florida you better become conversant in Spanish.  
> I lived on Sullivan’s Island, just outside of Charleston, SC, for six years. Parts of South Carolina still refer to the Civil War as ‘the recent unpleasantness’. My wife was a doc there. We met all sorts of ‘upper crust’ Charlestonians that were so kind and pleasant to your face but would stick a knife between your shoulder blades if they found it somehow advantageous. We used to visit Savannah, GA A LOT to get away from them. Now THERE’S a city! Fun, fun, fun.  
> Spent a lot of time in LA: Too hot, too much traffic, too much everything.  
> Portland, OR is fun but wet 8 months out of the year. Lots to do if you like hiking…and now a great foodie destination.  
> But I gotta say, if I could live on the north shore of Oahu…Sunset Beach…heaven on Earth.

What appeals to me about Florida is all the things to do. All the beaches and all the major theme parks.

Then for vacations it must be pretty cheap to hop on a plane to places like Jamaica.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235/100 "2019-04-12T19:51:44Z")

</div>

> [@Snake\_Plissken](#):
>
> But I gotta say, if I could live on the north shore of Oahu…Sunset Beach…heaven on Earth.

Even better for me would be Maui or Kaui. Those are areas with small town feel yet you are living in a tropical island.

A negative though from the people we talked to when we visited is because its expensive to travel even to the other islands people can sometimes feel trapped.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235.md?page=4)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/best-worst-regions-of-the-us/832235.md?page=6)
