# Bethesda release TES 1 and 2 for free! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 10, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571 "2009-07-10T15:56:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/1 "2009-07-10T15:56:58Z")
[http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/downloads\_games.htm](http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/downloads_games.htm) This makes two developers/publishers giving out or offering classic titles for the PC (Lucas Arts being the first one). Are there any other with such plans? I was thinking about going back to Oblivion (for the umpteenth time) Once I finally beat Fallout 3, now I might just go back to these two games first. Sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/2 "2009-07-10T21:04:32Z")
Westwood released some of the earlier Command and Conquer games for free, as part of the run-up to the release of Red Alert 3. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/3 "2009-07-10T21:17:14Z")
I take it you don’t remember just how buggy Daggerfall was? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/4 "2009-07-10T21:19:54Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > I take it you don’t remember just how buggy Daggerfall was? Come on. Every game should implement a “Teleport me to the goal of the dungeon because it’s outside of the level geometry” button. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/5 "2009-07-10T21:27:00Z")
Daggerfall would have been such a great game except for the bugs. Has anybody made a game anywhere near that scale since? I mean yeah it was all procedurally generated, and repetitive, but it took like a real life week to run across the entire map without fast travel. The magic system was great and flexible too, if a bit exploitable 😉 ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/6 "2009-07-10T21:47:30Z")
Wasn’t Arena already free? Or am I mistaken? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/7 "2009-07-10T21:47:36Z")
Veeeeeaaaaaannnnnnggggggaaannnnnnnncccccceeeee!!! Those randomly generated dungeons were absolute hell to navigate. Fortunately you could just force your way through a ceiling, levitate yourself in the void beyond to the place you needed to get, and pop back through the walls. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/8 "2009-07-10T22:04:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Those randomly generated dungeons were absolute hell to navigate. Though once you had been through 30 or so you would know all of the 2 dozen or so dungeon module blocks by heart. Where the door to the next block would be, or the 3 possible locations where seeked item would be. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/9 "2009-07-10T22:07:15Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > I take it you don’t remember just how buggy Daggerfall was? This. I wouldn’t touch Daggerfall again if it had tits and paid me to play. That sucker would only corrupt my bank account, I’m sure of it. ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/10 "2009-07-10T22:56:10Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Wasn’t Arena already free? Or am I mistaken? Yes, Arena has been available for free download from Bethesda for a couple years; Daggerfall is new though, and I’m pretty happy about that. Buggy or not, lots of nostalgia for that game (I lost my disks years ago in one move or another). 🙂 ETA: Maybe I got lucky, but it really wasn’t as buggy for me as comments like Kobal2’s suggest. Although my SO said it bugged out around the middle of the mainquest, I never had any real trouble with it. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/11 "2009-07-11T00:16:36Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > I take it you don’t remember just how buggy Daggerfall was? LOL! I had blocked it out. It all came flooding back when you guys started mentioning particulars. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/12 "2009-07-11T00:42:27Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > LOL! I had blocked it out. It all came flooding back when you guys started mentioning particulars. 😛 Like how on release all the skeletons walked backward? ---
**Author:** ![Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/13edae/32.png) [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interconnected_Series_of_Tubes)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/13 "2009-07-11T01:08:11Z")
MechWarrior IV is also on the free-express, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/14 "2009-07-11T01:35:55Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > I take it you don’t remember just how buggy Daggerfall was? Oh, my, was that game a mess. Ultima IX is one of the only games I’ve played that can equal it in bugginess. At least Daggerfall was good when it worked. > [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Wasn’t Arena already free? Or am I mistaken? I actually played Daggerfall free, as well. I have absolutely no idea how that happened, but I didn’t bootleg it and I downloaded it. It was probably 6-7 years ago or so, but it might have been a temporary thing to promote Morrowind or something, which came out about 7 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/15 "2009-07-11T20:05:09Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > This. I wouldn’t touch Daggerfall again if it had tits [SNIP] Doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/16 "2009-07-11T20:38:23Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Doesn’t it? It does. But 640\*480 tits really don’t cut it for me. ---
**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/17 "2009-07-12T00:26:51Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > It does. But 640\*480 tits really don’t cut it for me. Kids these days, with their hi-def 3D 1080p tits. Probably never even _seen_ an ASCII tit. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesda-release-tes-1-and-2-for-free/502571/18 "2009-07-12T07:03:17Z")
> [@ZenBeam](#): > > Kids these days, with their hi-def 3D 1080p tits. Probably never even _seen_ an ASCII tit. Oh, just don’t, grandpa. I grew up in ( . ) time. It was shite, and we both know it. I actually wanked to .JPEGs ! How pathetic is that ?! Hurray for streaming High Def, I say. Still pathetic, but jiggling pathetic.