# Bethesda's Fallout 76 \[edited title\]
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [May 30, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125 "2018-05-30T12:56:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 15
### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/281 "2019-10-25T19:47:16Z")
I signed up for it when it was only a buck, and haven’t had a reason to cancel yet, so I am currently downloading Outer Worlds.
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### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/282 "2019-10-25T20:07:56Z")
Interestingly, I am getting 22Mb/s download,on a weekday afternoon, from the Microsoft store. Steam has never gotten above 2.7, even in the middle of the night. I guess maybe M$ is investing in serious bandwidth for the possibility of cloud gaming.
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### Author:  [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/283 "2019-10-25T21:06:28Z")
> [@wolfman](#):
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> I signed up for it when it was only a buck, and haven’t had a reason to cancel yet, so I am currently downloading Outer Worlds.
Pulled the trigger and it’s downloaded while I took a nap. Getting ready to play 🙂 🙂
I think the last game I purchased at release was Fallout 4. Interesting.
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### Author:  [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/284 "2019-10-25T21:42:21Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> There’s actually a lot of impressive content on their service and quite a few games I’ve been waffling over getting or not. I may keep it for a few months and play through some of what’s there.
Same here. I had a friend raving about the service but I don’t have an Xbox and so it didn’t seem like a good fit for me. But now they have a PC-only version and the game selection looks great. Dishonored 2 is probably next on my playlist after TOW.
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### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/285 "2019-10-25T21:43:17Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Pulled the trigger and it’s downloaded while I took a nap. Getting ready to play 🙂 🙂
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> I think the last game I purchased at release was Fallout 4. Interesting.
I still got 7GB to go ☹
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/286 "2019-10-25T21:58:22Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> There’s actually a lot of impressive content on their service and quite a few games I’ve been waffling over getting or not. I may keep it for a few months and play through some of what’s there.
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#):
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> Same here. I had a friend raving about the service but I don’t have an Xbox and so it didn’t seem like a good fit for me. But now they have a PC-only version and the game selection looks great. Dishonored 2 is probably next on my playlist after TOW.
If you can find a [decent price](https://www.techradar.com/news/xbox-live-gold-deals) on Xbox Gold Live, you can currently [have it converted for free](https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/gold/upgrade) to Game Pass Ultimate, which works on both Xbox and PC. Only works once but will work on an existing account where you haven’t converted time yet.
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### Author:  [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/287 "2019-10-27T16:37:06Z")
> [@And\_his\_buzzer\_goes](#):
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> Outer Worlds doesn’t grip me as much, too cartoony for my taste. One of the reviews I saw yesterday mentioned that it does not really give you the chance to just wander about the map and see what you encounter. It’s a more guided experience.
I just want to say that I don’t find the game cartoony at all. I hope that you are not mistaking a broad colour pallette for cartoony.
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### Author:  [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/288 "2019-11-01T02:57:25Z")
Back to _Fallout 76_ for a moment…
[Australia Allows Some Fallout 76 Refunds After Consumers Were “Misled”](https://kotaku.com/australia-allows-some-fallout-76-refunds-after-consumer-1839517936).
> [@article linked](#):
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> The Australian Competition & Consumer Commission—a government body that basically looks after customer’s rights in the country—announced today that some refunds will be handed out for purchases of Fallout 76 after ruling that Bethesda was “likely to have contravened the Australian Consumer Law”.
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> The ruling—technically against Bethesda’s parent company Zenimax—came after folks buying Fallout 76 complained that they weren’t actually able to play the game, or that it had “problems with the servers, lagging, graphic and visual problems” and asked for a refund, only to be told by Bethesda that they weren’t entitled to one.
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### Author:  [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/289 "2019-11-01T14:17:56Z")
I don’t like the move to a subscription model (Fallout 1st), even if optional, and I don’t like how an increasing number of things that are greater-than-cosmetic are purchasable.
But I don’t see what they are doing is any different than Elder Scrolls Online, which also has an optional subscription, where said subscription gives you additional credits each month and what amounts to a “stash box” where all crafting materials are automatically placed in this bottomless container. That plus other benefits like faster progression (leveling).
Yet the community _loves_ ESO. I think the rage on Reddit and other places about the recent F076 moves represent a small fraction of players. Actual player numbers have apparently not gone down since the release of Fallout 1st.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/290 "2019-11-01T14:56:40Z")
I think ESO is just a better game, that’s what it boils down to.
I mean, I played it from the beginning and it was okay, not good enough to keep my interest though. It has always had a problem with balance, where there are few decent builds, so you either had a slight variation on a cookie cutter setup or played something substandard.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/291 "2019-11-01T15:08:57Z")
[Bethesda admits the best perks of the Fallout 1st subscription don’t even work.](https://www.techspot.com/news/82505-bethesda-admits-best-perks-fallout-1st-subscription-dont.html)
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/292 "2020-02-11T01:50:33Z")
[76 is getting human NPCs! And coming to Steam.](https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/02/04/the-npcs-are-on-the-way-free-fallout-76-wastelanders-update-arrives-on-april-7)
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### Author:  [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/293 "2020-02-11T01:59:20Z")
“Fallout 76 continues to truck along, and Bethesda isn’t wavering in its support. Since launching on November 14, 2018, Fallout 76 has received a number of big updates; some have been welcomed with open arms, others have not.”
Now THAT’S some of the most gagchoking cocksucking of Bethesda that I’ve seen in a while.
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### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/294 "2020-02-11T02:37:48Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> “Fallout 76 continues to truck along, and Bethesda isn’t wavering in its support. Since launching on November 14, 2018, Fallout 76 has received a number of big updates; some have been welcomed with open arms, others have not.”
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> Now THAT’S some of the most gagchoking cocksucking of Bethesda that I’ve seen in a while.
I’m curious what your problem with that is, it’s accurate. Bethesda is still supporting it, They have been making major updates and continue to, And some have been well received, and some have been hated.
It seems like so many people are so committed to the narrative that 100% of players have hated it from day 1 unwaveringly through now, that they have a conspiracy like belief that anything but loathing is fake.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2020, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/295 "2020-02-11T13:44:17Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> “Fallout 76 continues to truck along, and Bethesda isn’t wavering in its support. Since launching on November 14, 2018, Fallout 76 has received a number of big updates; some have been welcomed with open arms, others have not.”
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> Now THAT’S some of the most gagchoking cocksucking of Bethesda that I’ve seen in a while.
I read that as saying that despite their efforts it’s not going well. You must have a low opinion of fellatio.
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### Author:  [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/296 "2020-04-14T15:19:01Z")
Loaded it up under Steam and played a good couple of hours this morning. Definitely feels more like standard fallout now with the new updates that add NPC people in, but fortunately it’s still a good sense of adventure, not too crowded.
P.S. if a Mod happens by this way, could you please add a general Fallout 76 tag to the title for clarity, the announcement was years ago.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/297 "2020-04-14T18:19:20Z")
Done.
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### Author:  [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/298 "2020-04-14T18:22:28Z")
I still have some Atoms and subscription time remaining on my Bethesda copy, so I’ll continue playing on it until my monthly subscription runs out. If I don’t use all my Atoms, I guess I can continue popping in during sales to use it up even as I use Steam as my new main.
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### Author:  [@Kovitlac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kovitlac)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/299 "2020-04-14T19:49:20Z")
Looking forward to jumping in after work and a birthday meal tonight. Should be interesting!!
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### Author:  [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2020, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bethesdas-fallout-76-edited-title/815125/300 "2020-04-14T20:04:50Z")
:D:D
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I read that as saying that despite their efforts it’s not going well. You must have a low opinion of fellatio.
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