# Beto O’Rourke vs Tulsi Gabbard: Democratic Primary World Cup, First Round **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771 "2019-05-30T15:18:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/1 "2019-05-30T15:18:07Z")
This is a group stage match up for our [Democratic Primary World Cup](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=876255). Everyone is invited to vote in the poll. Feel free to add comments about why you chose one of these candidates over the other one. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/2 "2019-05-30T18:44:20Z")
#NeverTulsi ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/3 "2019-05-30T19:18:27Z")
Yup. Easy choice. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/4 "2019-05-30T20:52:54Z")
Beto seems like a nice guy, but I think he should be running for Senate. Tulsi. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/5 "2019-05-30T21:09:57Z")
Tulsi. Let’s get rid of the Beto distraction. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/6 "2019-05-30T21:50:37Z")
Sure, but not until we’ve gotten rid of the Gabbard distraction. She’s running in the wrong primary. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/7 "2019-05-31T00:01:20Z")
Pretty much anyone besides Tulsi. Hope she gets primaried for her House seat next year. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/8 "2019-05-31T00:21:56Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Beto seems like a nice guy, but I think he should be running for Senate. I agree, but since Tulsi’s > [@Chronos](#): > > running in the wrong primary , first we knock Tulsi out, _then_ we send Beto back to Texas to run against Cornyn, if he hasn’t damaged his rep too much for even that. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/9 "2019-05-31T02:15:57Z")
O’Rourke is not high on my list, but he’s still head and shoulders above Gabbard. A no-brainer. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_Raygun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c67d28/32.png) [@Ronald\_Raygun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_Raygun)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/10 "2019-05-31T05:31:15Z")
I believe people can change their minds on many issues, but connections to conversion therapy – particularly given that she’s of my youngish generation – is absolutely disqualifying. I don’t like Beto, but Tulsi can kick rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/11 "2019-05-31T06:21:00Z")
Tulsi Gabbard could beat Trump. Beto O’Rourke couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/12 "2019-05-31T16:27:50Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > Tulsi Gabbard could beat Trump. Beto O’Rourke couldn’t. I don’t know about your second sentence, but I completely disagree with your first. We would be looking at a disaster beyond Dukakian proportions, possibly even approaching McGovernan levels, if Gabbard were to run against Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Unreconstructed\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/76d3ee/32.png) [@Unreconstructed\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unreconstructed_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/13 "2019-05-31T16:41:53Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > I don’t know about your second sentence, but I completely disagree with your first. We would be looking at a disaster beyond Dukakian proportions, possibly even approaching McGovernan levels, if Gabbard were to run against Trump. How so? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/14 "2019-05-31T17:11:00Z")
Beto easily. Although I agree his 15 minutes are up and he has no business running for President. He should drop out and run for Senate. Gabbard probably won’t make it even to Iowa. But I’m positive there would a Bloomberg or other 3rd party challenge that would allow Trump to win in a landslide should Gabbard be the nominee. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/15 "2019-05-31T19:04:52Z")
> [@Unreconstructed\_Man](#): > > How so? There’s a thread on Gabbard here in this forum–not sure if you have read it or participated, but if you haven’t: a) it lists a number of policy positions that don’t really match the perspectives of many Democrats, among them concerns that she does not support gay rights, that she’s entirely too approving of dictators…a number of other positions, too, that suggest she’ll have a very difficult time getting lots of Dems to vote for her; b) it has a lot of people expressing deep concerns about the candidate’s positions, suggesting that a lot of liberals and perhaps even moderates are in fact going to have a great deal of difficulty voting for her. But do read the thread. “In it are the answers to many questions.” ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/16 "2019-05-31T19:09:02Z")
There was also a heavy emphasis on Gabbard’s religion disqualifying her in many eyes. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/17 "2019-05-31T19:11:28Z")
Keep in mind Gabbard was beloved in the party before she expressed concern about Obama’s support of jihadist groups in Syria and Yemen. Then the knives came out. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/18 "2019-05-31T20:48:55Z")
“Beloved” in the sense that nobody had ever heard of her? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/19 "2019-05-31T20:54:38Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > There was also a heavy emphasis on Gabbard’s religion disqualifying her in many eyes. Is she Muslim? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771/20 "2019-05-31T22:57:31Z")
She’s Hindu. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beto-o-rourke-vs-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-primary-world-cup-first-round/834771.md?page=2)