# Better Call Saul 1.03 "Nacho" 2/16/15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 15, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724 "2015-02-15T15:52:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/1 "2015-02-15T15:52:44Z")
We have an [omnibus thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18135499#post18135499) but because this show is bound to generate a lot of commentary, it easily justifies individual episode threads. That makes the discussion much easier to keep track of, since everyone is talking about the same episode in each thread, rather than several discussion threads about several points in the season going at once. So if no one minds, we’ll treat the omnibus thread as the episode 1 and 2 premier thread, and then start individual episode threads from here on out. I’m starting this one a day early just to try to get some traction on that. The first episode of the season premiered on Sunday night, but it’ll be Mondays from here on out. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/2 "2015-02-15T16:19:47Z")
I have nothing to add yet. I just wanted to say that I am SO on board with each episode getting it’s own thread. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/3 "2015-02-15T17:20:35Z")
I’ve asked for the other one to be closed. ::walks away pouting and kicking rocks:: ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/4 "2015-02-15T20:29:11Z")
I don’t know if the other needs to be closed–it’s fine as an ep 1/2 thread. Should probably have the title changed to avoid confusion, though. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/5 "2015-02-16T15:41:35Z")
Separate threads are a good idea. But I think the other thread should be renamed rather than closed. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/6 "2015-02-16T22:20:50Z")
Heh. All the episode titles end in the letter o. I am stoked for this. I also approve of the episode threads. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/7 "2015-02-16T22:36:33Z")
I’m assuming tonight, Saul decides to find a way to shake down the Kettlemans. I can’t wait for this shows next level. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/8 "2015-02-17T03:47:58Z")
“It’ll take weeks to get DNA results back, and that’s assuming we can even get a sample to match it to.” Suck it, CSI. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/9 "2015-02-17T04:19:38Z")
Interesting; the first bit of meat on the bones with Mike. I hope Jimmy’ll ease up on giving him shit over the validation stickers after this. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/10 "2015-02-17T04:22:28Z")
This episode had a lot of great laughs for me. “Yeh? Why?” “Wait, did you use your robot-sex voice?” “Here’s Johnny!” ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/11 "2015-02-17T07:37:07Z")
So are the Kettleman’s gonna offer Jimmy part of the money to keep quiet? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/12 "2015-02-17T07:46:49Z")
I think the Kettlemans are a whole lot more twisted and devious than they appear. Kind of like Ned Flanders. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/13 "2015-02-17T13:23:20Z")
I had decided that I was sick of the Mike/Jimmy fight about the validation stickers when it finally turned into something worth watching. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/14 "2015-02-17T13:58:46Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m assuming tonight, Saul decides to find a way to shake down the Kettlemans. I can’t wait for this shows next level. Another great episode. I had figured that Saul would be against shaking down the Kettlemans at first, but something would happen and he’d give in and call Nacho. But it’s interesting how he’s trying to be a good person and it not always working well for him. He could have just called his lawyer friend, and left it at that. But he still couldn’t sleep, so he called the Kettlemans too. And it was hilarious that his “robot sex” voice made it so it was impossible for him to be understood and he had to give it up. I wonder what Nacho will do now. It wasn’t a setup by Saul, but Nacho could still be angry with him. And after searching Nacho’s van and finding blood, the police probably have their eye on him more than before. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/15 "2015-02-17T14:30:39Z")
I’m confused with how Jimmy KNEW that they “kidnapped themselves”. Was it just the doll?? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/16 "2015-02-17T14:45:43Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I’m confused with how Jimmy KNEW that they “kidnapped themselves”. Was it just the doll?? I think the doll was just something he thought up as something that might convince the police (but ended up not doing so because it really was weak). His real reason for thinking they kidnapped themselves was the fact that they disappeared immediately after he warned them, combined with the fact that Nacho didn’t kidnap them. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/17 "2015-02-17T14:54:04Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I think the doll was just something he thought up as something that might convince the police (but ended up not doing so because it really was weak). > > His real reason for thinking they kidnapped themselves was the fact that they disappeared immediately after he warned them, combined with the fact that Nacho didn’t kidnap them. Yeah, that’s what I thought too. His first thought was that Nacho kidnapped them. But since he didn’t, and didn’t tell anyone about his plan, and didn’t see anyone else do it, and they disappeared immediately after being warned, then guessing that they kidnapped themselves isn’t a crazy leap. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/18 "2015-02-17T15:38:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I think the doll was just something he thought up as something that might convince the police (but ended up not doing so because it really was weak). > > His real reason for thinking they kidnapped themselves was the fact that they disappeared immediately after he warned them, combined with the fact that Nacho didn’t kidnap them. > [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > Yeah, that’s what I thought too. His first thought was that Nacho kidnapped them. But since he didn’t, and didn’t tell anyone about his plan, and didn’t see anyone else do it, and they disappeared immediately after being warned, then guessing that they kidnapped themselves isn’t a crazy leap. And he had to convince himself that the self kidnapping was true. It was the only way out of his predicament for Saul. His own desperation lead to his conviction on the matter. When we are desperate we can convince ourselves of anything. Though only rarely does this mode of reasoning turn out to be correct. edit: as I re-read the above it vaguely reminded me of the scene in BB with Walt in the gymasium. The scene where he is giving his “pep talk” to students about the plane crash. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/19 "2015-02-17T15:48:21Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I’m confused with how Jimmy KNEW that they “kidnapped themselves”. Was it just the doll?? I assumed they ran right after it was revealed they disappeared (I actually thought they would be seen hiding in the boat.) so I don’t think it was a huge leap. It does seem weird that they have the stolen money in cash. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724/20 "2015-02-17T16:03:42Z")
Does anybody else think Mama Kettelman is the brains of the outfit? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-03-nacho-2-16-15/712724.md?page=2)