# Better Call Saul 1.06 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 10, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672 "2015-03-10T04:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/21 "2015-03-10T17:53:51Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Cops: “C’mon, Mike, help us out here, yadda yadda yadda…” > > Mike: “Lawyer”. > > Cracked me right up, that did. And how Mike was completely justified in doing so. Those cops weren’t there to have a little chat to “clear a few things up,” they were there in an effort to pin a double homicide of two cops on him. Just like Mike knew right away who murdered his son, the Philly cops must strongly suspect it was Mike. If everyone in the station is dirty, and there were rumblings that his son was considering ending the party, it would not be hard to put it all together. Plus he just happened to leave town literally a few hours after the murder. And 2 headshots with a .38 revolver on 2 trained officers? That’s some Wyatt Earp action right there. With all that said, it’s “not what you know, but what you can prove…” ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/22 "2015-03-10T18:04:15Z")
Wasn’t his granddaughter suppose to be younger? She looks like the same age as she did in BB. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/23 "2015-03-10T18:20:08Z")
If we meet up with Gus, it stands to reason we’ll see Hector as well, seeing that Hector would’ve been the kingpin States-side at that time (assuming this was before his stroke). I mean, hell, we’ve already met Tuco, so why not? I’d love to see some Hector action, pre-wheelchair. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/24 "2015-03-10T18:45:12Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Wasn’t his granddaughter suppose to be younger? She looks like the same age as she did in BB. In BB she was 10 (at least that’s what I see googling around the web). I can’t find any pictures from the BCS episode but looking at the video, I think she could be 4 or 5. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/25 "2015-03-10T19:26:23Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > …I liked the episode fine as a brief diversion from the main through line of the show. But my favorite episode of the series so far is last week’s, which I think a lot of the same people overpraising this week’s episode may have actually disliked. And although they may not admit it, I suspect that TV show runners get influenced by the things people say online. So I am going to try my best to stand up for the viewpoint that last week’s episode is a much better exemplar of what I want this show to be (most of the time) than this week’s is. I can see what you mean. (I think highly of both episodes, but I wouldn’t like to see the show turn into “action man gets the drop on the bad guys” as a general rule.) I agree with those who’ve mentioned Banks’ performance as being superb; surely it’s likely to be in the running for an Emmy nomination. (I never see Jonathan Banks without mentally hearing the scenery-chewing John Lithgow call him “Monkey-Boy!!” in _The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai_. Who, back in '84, could have predicted the career that lay ahead for Banks?!?) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/26 "2015-03-10T20:32:18Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > We definitely never saw the mother in Breaking Bad. I would have remembered, because the actress who plays her was part of the cast of Rome. She was Octavia? Or Pullo’s concubine? This was the most BB like episode yet. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/27 "2015-03-10T20:36:20Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > She was Octavia? Or Pullo’s concubine? Octavia. Pullo’s concubine was named Eirene, played by Chiara Mastalli. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/28 "2015-03-10T21:18:52Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > We definitely never saw the mother in Breaking Bad. I would have remembered, because the actress who plays her was part of the cast of Rome. How much money are you willing to bet on that? In “Full Measure” the thirteenth episode of the third season of Breaking Bad, about 18 minutes in, Mike drops Kaylee off at her house. They sit in the car and have a conversation about rhinoceros horns. Then they get out of the car, he gives her a bunch of balloons, and her mother comes out to meet her. Mike even says “there’s your momma”. Unfortunately I can’t find the clip online, but if you have access to episodes on Netflix or something you can check it out. It’s brief, and I’m not sure if it’s the same actress, but we did see her mother on BB. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/29 "2015-03-10T21:24:41Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Kaylee’s mom was portrayed by a non-speaking extra with similar coloring to the actor they are using here. I have seen some people praising this actor and others criticizing her acting ability; I am In the latter camp, as I thought she kind of came across as someone visibly trying to act, rather than just naturalistically pulling me into the scene. In my observation, that is a failing common to UK televison actors. There seems to be a culture of overacting in British TV. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/30 "2015-03-10T21:26:08Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > It’s brief, and I’m not sure if it’s the same actress, but we did see her mother on BB. I’d be willing to bet it wasn’t the same actress, because, as I said, I would have recognized her. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/31 "2015-03-10T21:36:15Z")
Right. But your claim was that we didn’t see her mother, unless I misunderstood. Not a big deal in any case. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/32 "2015-03-11T01:25:18Z")
> [@Sam\_Lowry](#): > > I was quite impressed with his plan when watching the episode. I was even more impressed when reading someone’s theory online that it was somewhat of a long plan by Mike. He knew immediately who killed his son. It would have been difficult to get the guys back immediately, and they would have been on their guards. But by waiting for a few months and by seeming to be a hopeless drunk, they let their guards down and he was able to kill them. Also it provided a pretty good alibi, in that he seemed too drunk to function, much less get the drop on two cops much younger than him. This was my impression as well, he shows up in ABQ suddenly sober and evidently ok with that. I don’t think he was ever an alcoholic irl, it was a long play at getting them to drop their guards. it is so perfectly in character for the Mike that we know from BB and a very good intro for the BCS peeps as well. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/33 "2015-03-11T01:31:26Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > Mikes back story could have been one of those things best left imagined but once again I am reminded of why I watched Breaking Bad so intently. Was just thinking this. Often, things are best left for us to imagine; see the Fall of Anakin Skywalker for a top class example. But this was riveting–even though, as the AV Club reviewer points out, a lot of this is cop-show cliche. An actor and a director can make all the difference in the world. > [@Spoke](#): > > I’d be willing to bet it wasn’t the same actress, because, as I said, I would have recognized her. Listening to the Insider Podcast now, and they’ve said it’s not the same actress. (I think the new actress was a trainer in the tragically short-lived Luck.) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/34 "2015-03-11T02:33:01Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > I’d be willing to bet it wasn’t the same actress, because, as I said, I would have recognized her. I would have thought the same, that I’d recognize Octavia anywhere, but checking her IMDb page to verify she was never in Breaking Bad (she wasn’t), I see she was in The Walking Dead and I never had a clue. [Kerry Condon as Clara](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IktsklQe1qk) ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/35 "2015-03-11T04:14:00Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > (I never see Jonathan Banks without mentally hearing the scenery-chewing John Lithgow call him “Monkey-Boy!!” in _The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai_. Who, back in '84, could have predicted the career that lay ahead for Banks?!?) I always see him as the guy who was thrown over the buffet table in _Beverly Hills Cop_. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/36 "2015-03-11T05:25:32Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > In my observation, that is a failing common to UK televison actors. There seems to be a culture of overacting in British TV. I think a big part of that is the “acting through accent.” American actors are guilty of it when playing Brits and Brits can fall into that as well (I don’t care what anyone says-- Hugh Laurie was terrible on House, MD) She sounded like she was not 100% comfortable with her accent. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/37 "2015-03-11T15:39:31Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > I always see him as the guy who was thrown over the buffet table in _Beverly Hills Cop_. You’re right! I never picked up on that, and I’m usually pretty good at it. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/38 "2015-03-11T17:57:45Z")
> [@Elret](#): > > I’m with you completely. > > I find the mom exactly as you do - someone visibly trying to act. > > And the episode was just okay, to me. I like Mike as a character, and the actor is pretty great, but the storyline was totally mediochre to me, and I found his endless exposition at the end tedious and clumsy. Also, I want far more Saul in my Better Call Saul. I’m thinking that Mike is a factor (of as yet unknown magnitude) in how Jimmy McGill becomes Saul Goodman; so Mike’s backstory is relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/39 "2015-03-11T18:19:58Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Wasn’t his granddaughter suppose to be younger? She looks like the same age as she did in BB. > [@davidm](#): > > In BB she was 10 (at least that’s what I see googling around the web). I can’t find any pictures from the BCS episode but looking at the video, I think she could be 4 or 5. This was bugging me as well. Without running all over the internet looking it up, she was (you’re saying) 10, but I thought that was at the end of Breaking Bad and this is supposed to be 7 years before BB started. ---
**Author:** ![Bumbershoot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bumbershoot/32/3428_2.png) [@Bumbershoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bumbershoot)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672/40 "2015-03-11T20:08:43Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > I’m thinking that Mike is a factor (of as yet unknown magnitude) in how Jimmy McGill becomes Saul Goodman; so Mike’s backstory is relevant. I think you’re right, and I think we’re going to see more of the vet who took care of Mike- the one who said he ‘knows people’ and could help Mike get some work. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-06/714672.md?page=3)