# Better Call Saul 1.07 "Bingo" 3/16/2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 16, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128 "2015-03-16T17:09:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/41 "2015-03-17T21:04:59Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > @ SenorBeef&cmyk > > Mike said “so this makes us even” so I assumed he did the favour in exchange for Saul’s lawyering. Saul didn’t do much lawyering for Mike. It made them even for Jimmy’s “Juan Valdez bump n dump”, and subsequent smoothing over with the angry young cop. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/42 "2015-03-17T21:11:31Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > I wouldn’t have it any other way. If they wrote Saul’s character in BB with a spinoff in mind, I feel like it would have been a disservice to Breaking Bad. I haven’t listened to this weeks podcast, but last week(?) Vince mentioned that the toilet guy’s name was Jacocks. I don’t remember the lineage, but Vince said it was his wife’s sisters married name or something like that. In fact, a lot of the names in Breaking Bad were names from his IRL family. Anyways, the name Jacocks is in Battle Creek as well. > [@DrCube](#): > > Any theories on what was in those file boxes he dropped off for Chuck to snoop through? Two guesses A)It was to show Chuck that he’s doing honest to goodness work or more likely B)It’s going to be littered with little mistakes (“I just have to fill out that 413”/“you mean 513”) so that Chuck will want to help or Jimmy can ask Chuck to help. I’m not 100% sure on the end game, but it’ll get Chuck out of the house and on the road to recovery. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/43 "2015-03-17T21:22:35Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I haven’t listened to this weeks podcast, but last week(?) Vince mentioned that the toilet guy’s name was Jacocks. I don’t remember the lineage, but Vince said it was his wife’s sisters married name or something like that. In fact, a lot of the names in Breaking Bad were names from his IRL family. Anyways, the name Jacocks is in Battle Creek as well. > Two guesses > A)It was to show Chuck that he’s doing honest to goodness work > or more likely > B)It’s going to be littered with little mistakes (“I just have to fill out that 413”/“you mean 513”) so that Chuck will want to help or Jimmy can ask Chuck to help. I’m not 100% sure on the end game, but it’ll get Chuck out of the house and on the road to recovery. I think B is closer. I think it was self-serving AND loving on Saul’s part. Chuck will check his brother’s work and fix it and it gives Chuck something productive to do. Saul peeked through the window to see what his brother was doing–showing that he wanted Chuck to get curious and look through them. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/44 "2015-03-17T21:23:39Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I feel like we were cheated out of a scene where Saul had to feel out Mike to figure out if he could do the sort of infiltration job he carried out. It’s not exactly the sort of favor you could just take for granted in their relationship. This is if it even occurs to Saul that Mike is a badass ninja, or, for that matter, if Mike has yet decided he’s a badass ninja that’s going to do dirty jobs. All of that happened in an instant off-screen and it didn’t feel earned or established. I feel like the “Juan Valdez bump n dump” (sorry, I love that phrase) was that moment. Jimmy finds out Mike is 1) suspected of murder, 2) not above sneaky little “Slippin Jimmy”-style tricks, and 3) is willing and able to use those tricks on a cop investigating him for murder. Between making quick work of subduing Jimmy, his correct prediction about the Kettlemans, his cavalier attitude regarding authority, and his ability to pull off risky stunts like stealing the notepad, Saul knows all he needs to about Mike. His perception of Mike as a decrepit, power tripping senior citizen in a parking booth has disappeared over the last few episodes. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/45 "2015-03-17T23:48:14Z")
I have not seen\* Breaking Bad,\* but I am watching\* Better Call Saul\*. I surmise from the web that Saul worked for Walt and Mike worked for the Hispanic guy. Set me straight in a spoiler, please. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/46 "2015-03-18T00:08:23Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I have not seen\* Breaking Bad,\* but I am watching\* Better Call Saul\*. I surmise from the web that Saul worked for Walt and Mike worked for the Hispanic guy. > Set me straight in a spoiler, please. Correct. Unless you’re referring to Nacho or Tuco, then no. Mike will work for someone not (yet??) introduced on BCS. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/47 "2015-03-18T01:18:12Z")
Saul just can’t win. I presume that sometime between “now” and BB, Saul decided that Doing the Right Thing was for losers. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/48 "2015-03-18T01:30:04Z")
Here is an article from _Forbes_, suggesting that Saul is the epitome of Good Lawyer. He doesn’t even get the amount correct. Did he add his earned income to the bag, or just the bribe? What is Kim like in\* Breaking Bad\*? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/49 "2015-03-18T01:42:52Z")
Here is the[link.](http://www.forbes.com/sites/allenstjohn/2015/03/17/why-the-creators-of-better-call-saul-may-be-getting-a-call-from-the-american-bar-association/2/) ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/50 "2015-03-18T02:12:22Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Saul just can’t win. I presume that sometime between “now” and BB, Saul decided that Doing the Right Thing was for losers. Saul is what he is, he just doesn’t know it yet. Or at least that’s the idea. To be honest, I’m not sure if I’m buying the transformation from Jimmy to Saul. They seem like very different characters. Jimmy is just too nice. Somehow I’m finding Mike more interesting. It’s the same kind of thing with him, though. He clearly has a moral compass and is concerned with doing the Right Thing, but somehow he ends of killing people and living a life of crime, because… well, it’s who he is. And in his case, I’m buying it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/51 "2015-03-18T02:26:29Z")
Is Kim a former Wife, a girlfriend? What is her role in _Breaking Bad_? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/52 "2015-03-18T02:28:24Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > Saul is what he is, he just doesn’t know it yet. > > Or at least that’s the idea. To be honest, I’m not sure if I’m buying the transformation from Jimmy to Saul. They seem like very different characters. Jimmy is just too nice. He’s trying to live up to his brother’s expectations. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/53 "2015-03-18T02:44:34Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Is Kim a former Wife, a girlfriend? What is her role in _Breaking Bad_? Their relationship has yet to be defined, unless they’re just friends. She never appeared, or was mentioned, in Breaking Bad. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/54 "2015-03-18T07:40:25Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I feel like we were cheated out of a scene where Saul had to feel out Mike to figure out if he could do the sort of infiltration job he carried out. It’s not exactly the sort of favor you could just take for granted in their relationship. This is if it even occurs to Saul that Mike is a badass ninja, or, for that matter, if Mike has yet decided he’s a badass ninja that’s going to do dirty jobs. All of that happened in an instant off-screen and it didn’t feel earned or established. > [@cmyk](#): > > I thought the same thing. I’m guessing something was shot but ended up on the cutting room floor due to time or something. I noticed and thought through the same thing and came to the conclusion that the whole plan to spray the money so that it could be tracked down via black-light was conceived by Jimmy(Saul). He knew Mike was a bassass detective and ninja based on Mike knowing intuitively where to find the Kettlemen’s when they ran away, and then how he was both confident and capable enough to pickpocket a detective. After that, his ability to deal with the doofy Kettlemans wasn’t much in doubt. I think it was Saul’s plan because it started when he took out the money with thoughts of returning it. But merely returning it wouldn’t have accomplished much, unless he could use it as bait to discover and recover the Kettlemans entire stash, so that had to be his plan from the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/55 "2015-03-18T13:48:36Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Their relationship has yet to be defined, unless they’re just friends. She never appeared, or was mentioned, in Breaking Bad. Thanks, Blank Slate. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/56 "2015-03-18T14:03:49Z")
I’m guessing law school classmates, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/57 "2015-03-18T15:23:14Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > Do you know any defense attorneys? He’s defending low-level criminals. What level of success should he be at? Well, no: he’s doing “elder law”, which doesn’t usually involve going to court with a defendant. He’s drafting wills and powers of attorney and the like, which is just keeping him afloat. It’s easy money, if boring work. It seems clear that the fates are conspiring against him landing higher profile cases. While he is glib, he’s not a Harvard Law grad, and a big money firm is not going to hire him based on drafting wills and public defender work. Eventually, Mike will probably start sending business his way, since Mike’s read on Jimmy is that he is easily corruptible. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/58 "2015-03-18T15:25:55Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’m guessing law school classmates, perhaps? Most likely, they met at work after Saul stopped being Slippin’ Jimmy and went to work in the mailroom at HHM with the help of his brother. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/59 "2015-03-18T15:51:07Z")
The Kettlemens continue to baffle me. I keep thinking they were up to some brilliant plot and we viewers were being challenged to figure it out. I know the odds are they were just crazy or stupid. But could there have been any sanity associated with them trying to keep the money? Could they have had some plan for keeping the money hidden and getting away with it? Like I said … **BAFFLING** ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/60 "2015-03-18T15:52:58Z")
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