# Better Call Saul 1.07 "Bingo" 3/16/2015 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 16, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128 "2015-03-16T17:09:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/61 "2015-03-18T15:55:04Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > The Kettlemens continue to baffle me. I keep thinking they were up to some brilliant plot and we viewers were being challenged to figure it out. > > I know the odds are they were just crazy or stupid. But could there have been any sanity associated with them trying to keep the money? > > Could they have had some plan for keeping the money hidden and getting away with it? > > Like I said … **BAFFLING** Mrs Kettleman didn’t give a crap so long as SHE gets to keep the money. If Jimmy managed to keep Mr. K out of jail, that would be great. If not, she still gets the money. She was the one pushing to go to trial, not him. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/62 "2015-03-18T15:56:51Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Most likely, they met at work after Saul stopped being Slippin’ Jimmy and went to work in the mailroom at HHM with the help of his brother. They definitely met through his brother. She said that the firm put her through law school so she was probably a secretary there who showed promise. Jimmy would have had plenty of opportunity to meet her. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/63 "2015-03-18T15:59:29Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Is Kim a former Wife, a girlfriend? What is her role in _Breaking Bad_? > [@BlankSlate](#): > > Their relationship has yet to be defined, unless they’re just friends. She never appeared, or was mentioned, in Breaking Bad. In listening to another podcast (I’m a few behind), it’s mentioned by one of the writers that Kim and him are exes. I think he mentioned something like 10 years married. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/64 "2015-03-18T15:59:41Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > Like I said … **BAFFLING** Doesn’t Jimmy remark to Mike in an earlier episode that it’s baffling how stupid criminals can be? Jimmy, who is doing the “Right Thing”, is much more savvy about the crime business than the crooks. Which, I suppose, is the larger point. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/65 "2015-03-18T16:19:47Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > In listening to another podcast (I’m a few behind), it’s mentioned by one of the writers that Kim and him are exes. I think he mentioned something like 10 years married. Thank you, cmyk. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/66 "2015-03-18T16:28:08Z")
I keep hearing about how the Kettlemans are ‘clueless’ - and I think it’s true for Mr K, but I think Mrs K knew exactly what she was doing. I imagine that she had grown tired of her milquetoast husband, but she doesn’t believe in divorce. So how can she get rid of her husband for the next thirty years? Talk him into embezzling and then get him sent up the river. And as a bonus, she’ll have over a $1M to take care of the kids and keep them in their affluent suburban lifestyle (and don’t tell me she can’t spend it - Walt seemed to do okay with his ill gotten cash). Plus she becomes a sympathetic character in the community. And, of course, she knows that Mr K will go along with whatever she says. So when she breaks down at the end, I see it as the final realization that her grand plan has failed. Say goodbye to the lifestyle, Mr K comes back in 18 months, and she will have to get a job to support the kids. Her worst nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/67 "2015-03-18T16:34:41Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > Talk him into embezzling and then get him sent up the river. In what reality does she keep the money if her husband gets busted? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/68 "2015-03-18T16:40:34Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > In what reality does she keep the money if her husband gets busted? The show presented it that way. If he returns the money he gets 18 months. If he doesn’t and it goes to trial then he will likely get 30 years. If they can’t find the money, they can’t take it back. They are claiming innocence. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/69 "2015-03-18T16:48:49Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Well, no: he’s doing “elder law”, which doesn’t usually involve going to court with a defendant. He’s drafting wills and powers of attorney and the like, which is just keeping him afloat. It’s easy money, if boring work. It seems clear that the fates are conspiring against him landing higher profile cases. While he is glib, he’s not a Harvard Law grad, and a big money firm is not going to hire him based on drafting wills and public defender work. Eventually, Mike will probably start sending business his way, since Mike’s read on Jimmy is that he is easily corruptible. For the first few episodes he was doing court appointed defense attorney gigs. This elder law thing is temporary. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/70 "2015-03-18T16:49:14Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > The show presented it that way. If he returns the money he gets 18 months. If he doesn’t and it goes to trial then he will likely get 30 years. If they can’t find the money, they can’t take it back. They are claiming innocence. I’m with ya. But he’d be found guilty. From there, he’d be sentenced, then wouldn’t the city have grounds to pull warrants or find other means to mitigate the $1.6M loss from the Kettleman’s assets/wages? I mean, sure. They could hide the cash. But then what’s the point of sitting on cash you can’t spend? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/71 "2015-03-18T16:56:29Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m with ya. But he’d be found guilty. From there, he’d be sentenced, then wouldn’t the city have grounds to pull warrants or find other means to mitigate the $1.6M loss from the Kettleman’s assets/wages? > > I mean, sure. They could hide the cash. But then what’s the point of sitting on cash you can’t spend? If Mr. K goes to prison–could the county seize all of their on the books assets (house, boat, etc)? If so, then 1.6 million in cash is a great way for Mrs. K to go start a new life in Alaska or Maine. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/72 "2015-03-18T16:57:10Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > This elder law thing is temporary. I thought that he was going to specialize in elder law. Obviously, things change. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/73 "2015-03-18T17:04:41Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I thought that he was going to specialize in elder law. > Obviously, things change. Yes. At some point he specializes in “criminal” law. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/74 "2015-03-18T17:05:43Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > If Mr. K goes to prison–could the county seize all of their on the books assets (house, boat, etc)? If so, then 1.6 million in cash is a great way for Mrs. K to go start a new life in Alaska or Maine. Is $1.6M enough to bring in the FBI? ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/75 "2015-03-18T17:10:03Z")
> [@Martian Bigfoot](#): > > Saul is what he is, he just doesn’t know it yet. > > Or at least that’s the idea. To be honest, I’m not sure if I’m buying the transformation from Jimmy to Saul. They seem like very different characters. Jimmy is just too nice. I think Kim and Chuck, people he seems to actually care about, are going to meet sad fates and out of the ashes will rise Saul. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/76 "2015-03-18T17:10:40Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > I keep hearing about how the Kettlemans are ‘clueless’ - and I think it’s true for Mr K, but I think Mrs K knew exactly what she was doing. > > I imagine that she had grown tired of her milquetoast husband, but she doesn’t believe in divorce. So how can she get rid of her husband for the next thirty years? Talk him into embezzling and then get him sent up the river. And as a bonus, she’ll have over a $1M to take care of the kids and keep them in their affluent suburban lifestyle (and don’t tell me she can’t spend it - Walt seemed to do okay with his ill gotten cash). Plus she becomes a sympathetic character in the community. And, of course, she knows that Mr K will go along with whatever she says. > > So when she breaks down at the end, I see it as the final realization that her grand plan has failed. Say goodbye to the lifestyle, Mr K comes back in 18 months, and she will have to get a job to support the kids. Her worst nightmare. Nicely done. Very nicely done. Please post more? ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/77 "2015-03-18T17:16:13Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > I’m with ya. But he’d be found guilty. From there, he’d be sentenced, then wouldn’t the city have grounds to pull warrants or find other means to mitigate the $1.6M loss from the Kettleman’s assets/wages? > > I mean, sure. They could hide the cash. But then what’s the point of sitting on cash you can’t spend? Seems to me there are ways to get around that. She could go to Las Vegas (just my personal favorite) and use a fake name and open some foreign bank accounts - especially in jurisdictions where its illegal for banks to give any info to the cops - like Switzerland). Then she could go to Mexico for a brief vacation and from there she could buy lots of real estate in Mexico and maybe even in the USA too. She could buy other hard assets like gold and diamonds and stick them into a Mexican safe deposit box. She could always buy some things to make her life in the States a little comfortable. But the big payoff comes when the kids are grown and gone and she can move to Mexico and live like a queen. No? It’s exactly what I would do except for one tiny change … strike queen and enter king 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/78 "2015-03-18T17:20:03Z")
> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#): > > I keep hearing about how the Kettlemans are ‘clueless’ - and I think it’s true for Mr K, but I think Mrs K knew exactly what she was doing. > > I imagine that she had grown tired of her milquetoast husband, but she doesn’t believe in divorce. So how can she get rid of her husband for the next thirty years? Talk him into embezzling and then get him sent up the river. And as a bonus, she’ll have over a $1M to take care of the kids and keep them in their affluent suburban lifestyle (and don’t tell me she can’t spend it - Walt seemed to do okay with his ill gotten cash). Plus she becomes a sympathetic character in the community. And, of course, she knows that Mr K will go along with whatever she says. > > So when she breaks down at the end, I see it as the final realization that her grand plan has failed. Say goodbye to the lifestyle, Mr K comes back in 18 months, and she will have to get a job to support the kids. Her worst nightmare. Yeh, but look what Walt had to do in order to launder and conceal his earnings. His wasn’t embezzelment either. Just cash by ill-gotten means. And for the length of it, he wasn’t caught. Then, when he was, he had to go into hiding for a year in NH, then blackmail the Schwartz to deliver the money to Walt Jr after so long. Then he died. Not a great long-term plan, and Walt was a mastermind. Not only that, but if that was her motive, she’d be justified in divorce with the struck deal. He’d still be guilty of a very distasteful crime. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/79 "2015-03-18T17:20:21Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > If Mr. K goes to prison–could the county seize all of their on the books assets (house, boat, etc)? If so, then 1.6 million in cash is a great way for Mrs. K to go start a new life in Alaska or Maine. …or New Hampshire. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128/80 "2015-03-18T17:26:58Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > …or New Hampshire. 🆒 … in a very, _very,_ rural shack. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-07-bingo-3-16-2015/715128.md?page=5)