# Better Call Saul: 1.09 Pimento

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 31, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395 "2015-03-31T03:59:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/181 "2015-04-02T21:41:08Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> The Pill Guy: Mike would never let him behave like that. This is a screw up waiting to happen. Mike would have told the guy to sit in the car and he would have taken care of it.

Mike knew there was very little chance of anything going wrong. That’s why he didn’t bring a gun and why he knew he was safe going alone. He could have gone out and done the swap himself, but leaving the pull guy out there in the open, and scared, but being right there behind him helps make sure there’s more work for him. The pill guy is going to go back and tell the vet about what an amazing job Mike did. I mean, yeah, in the real world he’d never get another job after beating up the other guy, but this is a TV show. The Pill guy is going to give him 5 stars, it probably would have been 4 if he Mike had just jumped out of the car and made the switch himself. Mike got some extra cool points just standing there like nothing was happening.

Of course, if Mike had just done it for him, pill guy would probably request him and happily pay him $1500 each time. That is, if Mike hadn’t said ‘hey, don’t worry about Nacho, he’s not going to hurt you’, but I think that was more for us.

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**Author:** ![scoots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@scoots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scoots)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/182 "2015-04-02T21:46:27Z")

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Saul may not have to spend his whole life in hiding. Maybe he gets caught by the police but manages to distance himself from the really criminal stuff by using legal privilege (he couldn’t tell anyone what he knew because of lawyer/client confidentiality) or he could make it seem like he wasn’t aware of any illegal activities. Minimise that side of things. If he does that well the police may not be able to pin anything on him. He’s always been pretty good at doing that. Or maybe Chuck redeems himself by coming to Saul’s rescue with all the legal might of HHM behind him.

All that would probably only take a couple of episodes to resolve and then Saul is free to resume his life and he’s back in the game again. BCS could then carry on and none of us would know what will happen from that point onwards.

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/183 "2015-04-02T22:21:00Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> I think it goes beyond simply a white lie to protect Jimmy’s feelings.

Yes, it’s more than a white lie, but I think he was trying to spare Jimmy what likely is a fairly accurate and honest appraisal of his character, ethics, and skills.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> In essence, Jimmy believed in Chuck. Jimmy had Chuck’s back when Chuck was incapacitated. Jimmy was willing to take care of him, bring him his groceries, basically cater to him, keeping him from being committed (when it was in Jimmy’s power to have him committed).

But I would still bet that Chuck has done more for Jimmy than vice versa. Further, this dynamic and the edict that Jimmy not be too closely associated with the legal work of the firm likely occurred a long time ago. Although the phone call likely ironed out the details as it related to this particular case, I think Hamlin knew Chuck’s basic feelings a long time ago.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> But Chuck wasn’t willing to believe in Jimmy.

Likely true, but the question is whether he SHOULD believe in Jimmy? Jimmy is a guy who despite being nice and affable is a conman. Even is the recent past, he is willing to being a lying ambulance chaser. Chuck didn’t make him do any of that. I get that the narrative is set up to make you root for Jimmy, but we know he is NOT a good guy. He is a guy willing to cut corners and rationalize his behavior, and Chuck rightfully states how such a person practicing law is a disgrace.

> [@Malthus](#):
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> Both had pretty good reasons for not believing in the other - but in the end, Jimmy came through for Chuck, but not the other way around.

I think he did come through for Jimmy. First, with regard to the case, Jimmy would have been fine accepting a minor settlement, leaving millions on the table. Only Chuck was able to see the magnitude of the case. Jimmy was only taken seriously because he is Chuck’s brother. Jimmy only was able to print the case law because of Chuck. Chuck was the one who reconstructed the shredded docs. Chuck was the reason a firm like HHM would take a case form a guy like Jimmy. Jimmy doesn’t get a meeting without Chuck.

Further, Chuck has likely saved Jimmy countless times in the past. Think about it from Chuck’s pov. How many times does he have to stick his neck out for his brother?

> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Jealousy isn’t quite the word I was looking for. Maybe a bit of resentment? Chuck seems like some people I know where the older sibling is much older than the younger sibling. They haven’t stated their ages, but in real life McKean is 15 years older than Odenkirk. In a lot (not all of course) of those relationships, the older sibling feels like things were harder when they were young, and that the parents have less time and energy for discipline as they get older so the younger sibling gets away with more. They haven’t shown any of that on the show, so maybe I’m reading into things, but that’s what I would guess is part of their background.

I think that is probably accurate, although unstated.

> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> Chuck does love Jimmy, but I’m not sure he likes him all that much, for a variety of reasons. They do very good showing the brother relationship and making it seem very real.

I agree, but the question is SHOULD Jimmy like Chuck? If these were real people, why would the average person like someone like Jimmy if they knew his history?

> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> I don’t know much about the law, definitely not enough to say whether Jimmy is good or would have been destined for greatness. If not for his brother, he might have had a successful firm, or he might have just been scraping by, I don’t know.

It’s obviously somewhat speculative, but the reality is that _criminal_ lawyers like what Jimmy becomes are generally not that skilled IMO. Even the minor things like going into a meeting with Mike not knowing at all what is going on, and allowing his client to talk are two things a good lawyer wouldn’t do.

> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> I think what changes his career trajectory is that his brother, someone he’s looked up to and admired for so long, still sees him as Slippin’ Jimmy, and will always see him as Slippin’ Jimmy. He’ll never see him as a legitimate lawyer, so why not just act like a “criminal” lawyer. His career success isn’t limited by an overbearing brother. His career goals of what he can see himself as being is limited by his brother.

I think that is likely Jimmy’s rationalization, but remember that he was doing shady things in the recent past before he appreciated how his brother felt. I suppose you can make a case that he felt that before he heard it, but Chuck didn’t tell him to try to scam the city accountant’s family.

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I think the writers did a good job of portraying a person mentally justifiying a shitty act as being for someone’s “own good”. Chuck wasn’t doing that to protect Jimmy’s feelings, IMO; he did it to protect Chuck (and thereby keep the ice and Coleman lamp fuel coming). Regardless of what he meant, however, he was patronizing Jimmy, and basically assumed he was too clueless to figure out what was going on.

But how else could Chuck have handled this situation when he was still mentally stable that would have been better and wouldn’t have compromised his integrity or their relationship? Chuck, for good reason, fundamentally thinks Jimmy is a dishonest person who would is an unethical lawyer. How do you tell someone that in a way that doesn’t sever the relationship?

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I’m not interested in getting into an argument over this, but someone calling his brother something like “a chimp with a machine gun” does not impress me as one who is overly concerned with feelings.

Well, I think he was letting loose at that point. Either way, no argument here friend. Just wanted to discuss the show.

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/184 "2015-04-02T23:34:29Z")

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> [@brickbacon](#):
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> Surely all of this pales in comparison to his work in Mr. Show, which for some reason no one has mentioned? Here is a Mr. Show law-related [skit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcaVSTsYyOI). And [another](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxMS59sxwxs) with both Odenkirk and McKean. Who knew what the future held for them.

Thanks for the clips! How funny! How ironic! You’re not a real law professor!

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/185 "2015-04-02T23:44:46Z")

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It intrigues me how co-creators Gould and Gilligan sort of make it up as they go along, nothing rigid, nothing written in stone …which is how the creative process should work. After watching a screening of “Pimento” [they commented](http://deadline.com/2015/03/vince-gilligan-better-call-saul-amc-panel-screening-1201399787/)on Jimmy’s journey to become Saul:

"According to Gilligan and Gould, how he gets there is less a question of specific steps and more one of establishing motivation. “I worried all through Season 1 that we weren’t getting to Saul Goodman fast enough,” Gilligan said, but added “now I’ve come around 180 degrees and I’m thinking ‘God, I don’t want to get to Saul too quick’, I love Jimmy McGill so much.” The key question, so Gilligan and Gould said, isn’t “how long does it take to turn Jimmy McGill into Saul Goodman,” but “what kind of problem does becoming Saul Goodman solve?”

On second thought, during podcast interviews several of the actors have commented that they stick to the script, the writers are very particular about the story being told in a certain way…the exact words are important.

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**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/186 "2015-04-02T23:55:21Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Does anyone else think they’ve painted themselves a bit into a corner as far as Mike’s abilities go?
> 
> He’s been well established as ultimate bad ass, to a ridiculous degree. As a result there is never any dramatic tension, because Mike is simply unbeatable in any situation involving violence or stealth. Not really buying it from his background either, supposedly he’s been a dirty cop for many years. The training he has seems more like someone that was special forces or something else…
> 
> Kind of doubt that ordinary beat cops get anywhere near his level of skill even after being on the force many years.

I agree completely with this post. In the latest episode I felt that Mike is getting predictably written - any action scene will simply have him perfectly execute the “silent bad-ass” archetype. If he always has to be a perfect killing machine, then at least I would want to see more depth to his personality - something contradictory or unflattering.

Perhaps the writers missed an opportunity in not letting BCS be the period where Mike actually perfects his art, rather than it seeming as having always a part of him.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/187 "2015-04-03T01:05:10Z")

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> [@cactus\_waltz](#):
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> I agree completely with this post. In the latest episode I felt that Mike is getting predictably written - any action scene will simply have him perfectly execute the “silent bad-ass” archetype. If he always has to be a perfect killing machine, then at least I would want to see more depth to his personality - something contradictory or unflattering.
> 
> Perhaps the writers missed an opportunity in not letting BCS be the period where Mike actually perfects his art, rather than it seeming as having always a part of him.

I hear what you’re saying but maybe it’s just not far back enough to show a big learning curve. They would do well to have him stumped a few times, but he has been a crooked cop for 30 years by this point. ISTM disarming a wannabe and sussing out how a drug deal will probably go should be in his wheelhouse already.

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**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/188 "2015-04-03T01:28:14Z")

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> [@soonerblue](#):
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> Thanks for the clips! How funny! How ironic! You’re not a real law professor!

No problem. Mr. Show is great in general too if you have never seen it. Here are a few other good sketches:

[Lie Detector](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYvHpVwIqYY)  
[Angry Marriage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfUv5t71_Xo)  
[Pre-Taped Call-In Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrlS9_n8GX4)  
[The Fairsley Difference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP4yX2rkpBc)  
[McHutchence vs Greeley III](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCfMgqnq2uo)  
[Larry Kleist: Rapist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKE9W0O8bX8)  
[East Coast vs. West Coast Ventriloquism](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne0RrK5qJ-k)  
[Why Me? The Bob Lamonta Story](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPjYSay9g0)  
[Great Seeing You Again Guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AISLBrQ-ODE)  
[The Audition](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ZNX1jqbOk)

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/189 "2015-04-03T01:34:09Z")

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OK. So … may I make a prediction?

So what if someone makes a winning guess and someone else makes a losing guess. What impact will that have on anyone here?

I doubt the impact will be much of anything or that it will make much difference either way. Someone will be right and someone else will be wrong. If the two predictions are opposites, then it can’t really be helped if things turn out in diametrically opposite directions. It would really have to be required to work out that way. Wouldn’t it? It won’t make much difference either way, will it?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/190 "2015-04-03T01:36:03Z")

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I loved Mr. Show which is why I am very happy Odenkirk has gotten this gig.

People make predictions all the time guy. Go for it. Many spoiler box it though, because a lot of people don’t want to see a million guesses, one of which is probably correct. Lol.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/191 "2015-04-03T03:05:58Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> E.g., I was quickly concerned about the dude Mike took out. This guy has guns (he was conscious enough to know Mike was throwing them into the trash can), is ticked off, and knows that Mike was hired by the vet. This is someone who is going to track Mike down and cause trouble.

The guy’s a poser who reads too much Soldier of Fortune. Not only do I doubt he could track down Mike, he wouldn’t stand a chance if he did.

With Mr. Pill’s recommendation, and Mike’s comments, I bet he could convince the Vet that the guy was bad news, and he erred in recommending him. I suspect it’s through the Vet that Mike begins to select his own crew, which is what he has established in Breaking Bad. “If’ I”'m doing this job, I’m picking my own guys. Who have you got?"

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/192 "2015-04-03T04:34:04Z")

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I’m thinking Hank will show up at some point.

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**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/193 "2015-04-03T05:09:12Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Surely he was running from both, otherwise the first scene in the pilot doesn’t make much sense: While working the counter, he sees a tough gang-looking dude glaring at him and mentally prepares for the worst, only breathe an uneasy sigh of relief when he sees the mistaken goon greet his girlfriend.

I don’t see why the neo-Nazis would be after Saul. I don’t recall them ever meeting Saul, in fact.

Saul’s face would have been on the TV and in the newspapers, as a suspect wanted in the the Heisenberg case. There would be a reward for information leading to his arrest. That’s what he was worried about. Not neo-Nazis, just someone recognising his face.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/194 "2015-04-03T05:29:49Z")

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> [@Shakester](#):
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> I don’t see why the neo-Nazis would be after Saul. I don’t recall them ever meeting Saul, in fact.
> 
> Saul’s face would have been on the TV and in the newspapers, as a suspect wanted in the the Heisenberg case. There would be a reward for information leading to his arrest. That’s what he was worried about. Not neo-Nazis, just someone recognising his face.

And the bigger problem with that is that his face is plastered all over billboards and buses and everywhere else because he advertises so much. Everyone in ABQ knows what he looks like just like you know what some of the local ambulance chasers and bankruptcy lawyers in your town look like. I think that was part of the reason why he had to disappear.  
Here’s something I’m going to toss out there. A few weeks back a co-worker of mine said something to the effect of ‘I think Chuck [WRT his disease] is setting Jimmy up, I don’t know how or why and I know it doesn’t even make sense, but that’s my guess’. I was going to mention it here just to get it on record, but it seemed so off the wall I just left it alone.  
Based on what we’ve discussed in this thread about how Chuck’s illness gets better and worse with Jimmy’s behavior and the fact that (as far as I can recall) Jimmy never mentioned Chuck in BB, I’m going to guess that as Jimmy turns into Saul and goes from ‘kinda scammy’ to full blown _criminal_ lawyer, Chuck’s illness will cause him to kill himself.  
I have some other ideas on why there’s no Chuck in BB, but that’s the one I’ll lock myself into, for now. The only wiggle room I’ll give maybe all or part of the reason for Chuck offing himself is because of guilt over what he did to Jimmy or Jimmy abandoning himself and starting his own life. Either way I’m thinking that his mental illness will cause him to take his own life and Jimmy will play into it.

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/195 "2015-04-03T12:24:35Z")

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[quote=“Sampiro, post:173, topic:716395”]

And I think the dumbass embezzler’s wife will figure back in, if not in the finale then next season. QUOTE]

Oh I agree, we haven’t seen the last of Betsy Kettleman …so many fans loved her that the show’s creators hinted they couldn’t discard such a rich character. I can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/196 "2015-04-03T12:29:49Z")

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> [@brickbacon](#):
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> No problem. Mr. Show is great in general too if you have never seen it. Here are a few other good sketches:
> 
> [Lie Detector](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYvHpVwIqYY)  
> [Angry Marriage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfUv5t71_Xo)  
> [Pre-Taped Call-In Show](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrlS9_n8GX4)  
> [The Fairsley Difference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP4yX2rkpBc)  
> [McHutchence vs Greeley III](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCfMgqnq2uo)  
> [Larry Kleist: Rapist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKE9W0O8bX8)  
> [East Coast vs. West Coast Ventriloquism](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne0RrK5qJ-k)  
> [Why Me? The Bob Lamonta Story](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPjYSay9g0)  
> [Great Seeing You Again Guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AISLBrQ-ODE)  
> [The Audition](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ZNX1jqbOk)

Wow, more goodies, thanks for taking the trouble. I thought it was Jimmy McGill that I was in love with, when really, it’s Bob Odenkirk.

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/197 "2015-04-03T12:36:06Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> I’m thinking Hank will show up at some point.

As am I …also waiting for the chicken man, Gus Fring. Giancarlo Esposito really wants a part in Saul, and decidedly to be pro-active about it. He told fans somewhere online, “I told Vince Gilligan: If you do not put me in Better Call Saul, I will kill your wife. I will kill your son. I will kill your infant daughter.”

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/198 "2015-04-03T12:50:44Z")

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My 2 cents on Jimmy’s good or bad character…

Flashback Jimmy in a Cicero (?) jail - “I know I’m a lousy brother. I’m a lousy brother, I’m a big screw up, and if I was just a better person, I would not only stop letting you down, you know what, I’d stop letting me down. And it’s about time that I started to make both of us proud.”

That was a guy who was tired of living the sleazy life\*, bringing shame on his family, disappointing his Atticus Finch brother … he truly wants to start literally doing everything he can to fight against his baser instincts and walk the straight and narrow …a man struggling to do the right thing.

And he succeeds in a way, works in the mail room, gets his law degree, works as a public defender to make Chuck proud, etc. … but $750 a pop has him on the edge of poverty. Chuck is ill, can’t work, and Jimmy tears up the HHM checks because he thinks it a scam to cheat Chuck out of his share of the firm - still don’t know the back story on that. So Jimmy starts drifting to the skateboarding-twins-shady side to make some money …

\*Can anyone explain what a “Chicago Sun Roof” is … without embarrassing me half to death?

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**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/199 "2015-04-03T12:57:46Z")

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About the future…

On one of those podcasts I heard the writer and director of “Pimento” -Tom Schnauz - say that there was originally a six minute opening flashback of pre-teen Jimmy which had to be cut for time reasons. Six minutes is a long time. Instead of trying to trim it to death, he saved it for another episode next season. It shows a very young Jimmy McGill back in the day, like nine years old.

That ought to tell us something. But what?

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**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/200 "2015-04-03T13:08:01Z")

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> [@soonerblue](#):
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> \*Can anyone explain what a “Chicago Sun Roof” is … without embarrassing me half to death?

No. That’s the point. They made it up for the show. Sure sounds sleazy though, doesn’t it?

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