# Better Call Saul: 1.09 Pimento **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 31, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395 "2015-03-31T03:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/201 "2015-04-03T13:09:02Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > About the future… > > On one of those podcasts I heard the writer and director of “Pimento” -Tom Schnauz - say that there was originally a six minute opening flashback of pre-teen Jimmy which had to be cut for time reasons. Six minutes is a long time. Instead of trying to trim it to death, he saved it for another episode next season. It shows a very young Jimmy McGill back in the day, like nine years old. > > That ought to tell us something. But what? Perhaps Chuck beat up his little brother. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/202 "2015-04-03T15:46:55Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Perhaps Chuck beat up his little brother. If the actors’ age difference is approximately their age difference in the show, that would be a 25 year old Chuck beating up a 9 year old Jimmy. That’s pretty messed up even for the McGill boys. I can imagine Chuck saying something that has quite an effect on Jimmy at that age though… ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/203 "2015-04-03T16:33:55Z")
Perhaps we’ll come to find out that Jimmy’s actually adopted? That might explain Chuck’s resentment towards Jimmy. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/204 "2015-04-03T17:14:05Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Perhaps we’ll come to find out that Jimmy’s actually adopted? That might explain Chuck’s resentment towards Jimmy. I think Mom always liked Jimmy best. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/205 "2015-04-03T17:16:15Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > If the actors’ age difference is approximately their age difference in the show, that would be a 25 year old Chuck beating up a 9 year old Jimmy. That’s pretty messed up even for the McGill boys. I can imagine Chuck saying something that has quite an effect on Jimmy at that age though… Adam Cartwright was older than hid Pa, so that might not hold over. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/206 "2015-04-03T17:59:18Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > \*Can anyone explain what a “Chicago Sun Roof” is … without embarrassing me half to death? While I guess they just made it up, I assumed it meant flashing a moon. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/207 "2015-04-04T01:25:47Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > Perhaps we’ll come to find out that Jimmy’s actually adopted? That might explain Chuck’s resentment towards Jimmy. Ooh, OR could Jimmy be Chuck’s son?! ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/208 "2015-04-04T01:31:43Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > While I guess they just made it up, I assumed it meant flashing a moon. Maybe so … don’t know why I connected it with Jimmy potentially going to prison as a sex offender … that would be a pretty wild “moon.” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/209 "2015-04-04T01:41:28Z")
I think Jimmy and Chuck’s relationship is clear and logical and doesn’t require any additional information to explain. Chuck loves Jimmy but doesn’t respect him or trust him and doesn’t think he has the character to be trusted as a lawyer. He is willing to help him but he has a limit. He didn’t want Jimmy as a lawyer in his firm but also didn’t want to be the one to tell him that. Jimmy caught him out and Chuck spilled his guts. That kind of thing is quite realistic. He still feels bad about hurting Jimmy’s feelings, but I doubt he will change his mind. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/210 "2015-04-04T02:08:45Z")
Given the money Saul has to hide out, having not watched\* Breaking Bad\*, how much money does one make from making meth like blue sky? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/211 "2015-04-04T02:18:30Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Given the money Saul has to hide out, having not watched\* Breaking Bad\*, how much money does one make from making meth like blue sky? Skyler filled a huge pallet in a storage unit and was unable to figure out how many millions were there. It was more than they would ever be able to launder or even spend in their lifetimes. ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/212 "2015-04-04T03:33:03Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I thought about that as well. If there were 12 bottles and each bottle had a hundred pills and they were 80 milligram oxy’s (all assumptions except for the 80mg part) that’s 1200 pills. Call that $50 per pill street price, that’s $60K. At wholesale, maybe he got $30,000 for the box. I can count money at a reasonable fast pace, but it takes me about 30 seconds to count a thousand dollars in 20’s and I wouldn’t be able to do it inside an envelope. > I agree that they may have tried to keep it brief, but they should have made it more realistic as well. 300 one hundred dollar bills would have been easier to count and they could have shown him awkwardly/nervously counting them in the minivan while Mike is standing there. They could have even thrown in a mix of 20’s so they could use that line. Mostly hundreds and a few twenties would only take him 2 or 3 minutes to count. > No, on the face of it, it doesn’t. I’m sure even Jimmy didn’t feel screwed at the time. But that’s not the point, the point is that the real reason he didn’t get the job is because Chuck told Howard not to hire him. There’s no other reason for it. None. Chuck told Howard (and/or the other partners) not to hire Jimmy. We can only speculate at his true reasons for doing it, but that’s the reason he didn’t get hired. Hell, maybe HHM wouldn’t have hired Jimmy on their own, but they didn’t even have to make that decision. > And FWIW, I’m willing to bet if Howard had gone to the partners and said 'My brother got his law degree, I’d like to bring him out of the mail room" they would have. Just a thought…if Pryce looked into the bag and saw, say, 4 twenties, or 9, or counted 14…along with some larger denomination bills, some wrapped 50’s, 100’s…it might be why he would say, tentatively, “I think they shorted me a twenty” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/213 "2015-04-04T05:22:39Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Skyler filled a huge pallet in a storage unit and was unable to figure out how many millions were there. It was more than they would ever be able to launder or even spend in their lifetimes. If she talks to the cops, she loses it, I would think. She had better call Saul. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/214 "2015-04-04T09:08:32Z")
I don’t have too much to add, other than I re-watched ep 1 with my wife, and in the “Address Unknown” opener, Saul absolutely fears the Neo-Nazis. He thinks one is staring at him and approaching him at the Cinnabon, and he sweats it. They’re obviously not the only ones who would like to find him, but I’m sure he’d rather be found by the cops if he was sure to be caught. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/215 "2015-04-04T09:51:10Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > I don’t have too much to add, other than I re-watched ep 1 with my wife, and in the “Address Unknown” opener, Saul absolutely fears the Neo-Nazis. He thinks one is staring at him and approaching him at the Cinnabon, and he sweats it. They’re obviously not the only ones who would like to find him, but I’m sure he’d rather be found by the cops if he was sure to be caught. And again I need to say it: I rewatched Breaking Bad in its entirety over the last couple of months, and there is no scene where Saul interacts with the neo-Nazis. Now, Saul would have known about them, very likely, and vice versa, but there is no reason to believe that the neo-Nazis would be after Saul. If you can find a scene in Breaking Bad that shows why they’d be after him, go ahead and remind me of it. Not your assumption, something in the actual show. Saul fears RECOGNITION, and the people most likely to recognise him (and who’d be most interested in a reward for doing so) would be his ex-clients. Who include, of course, all sorts of low-lifes. The guy in that scene had nothing to connect him to the neo-Nazis, he just looked like a regular guy. Short hair, nylon jacket. _Could_ possibly be a neo-Nazi, but there is nothing about him to make that any more likely than that he’s just some guy. Again, you are welcome to do a screen cap and post it with your annotations proving him to be a neo-Nazi, but I’m looking at his picture on my screen right now, and I don’t see it. He could just as likely be a cop as a neo-Nazi. But in fact he’s just some guy who was looking past Saul, not right at him. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/216 "2015-04-04T11:43:37Z")
Some of us keep wondering why Kim is never mentioned in BB … maybe she eventually married Howard. That certainly would’ve kicked the last peg out from under Jimmy. The same writers wrote about a certain chemist who was in love with his lab assistant, and formed Gray Matter Technologies with his friend, and somehow his lab love ended up married to said friend, who bought the chemist’s share of GMT for $5,000 … a company that went on to be worth 2 billion dollars … and had been started with said chemist’s research. Not exactly the same …but makes me wonder … both men were cheated out of their fortune and their true love, both quit trying to earn a meager living the legal way … Ah well, I need to stop thinking about this show … next I’ll be comparing fatty cinnamon buns to the only slightly more addictive blue meth. BTW - my cable company sez AMC will start a BCS marathon at 11:15 a.m. on April 6. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/217 "2015-04-04T13:11:33Z")
Definitely something bad happens with Kim. I’ve been expecting her to betray Jimmy from the first time she appeared. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/218 "2015-04-04T13:46:39Z")
My first thought is that someone kills her. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/219 "2015-04-04T15:55:47Z")
It’s worth pointing out that we end up seeing basically zero about Saul’s private life over the run of Breaking Bad, so it’s certainly not automatically the case that if Kim was still alive and still Jimmy/Saul’s friend we would have known about it. Although I do agree that it’s more likely that when the Jimmy/Saul transition is complete she will be out of the picture for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/220 "2015-04-04T17:11:14Z")
Doesn’t Saul at least mention in passing having an ex-wife? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395.md?page=12)