# Better Call Saul: 1.09 Pimento **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 31, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395 "2015-03-31T03:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/241 "2015-04-06T15:01:40Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > One of the brothers cutting off the other one seems to be the way they’re heading. I could also see the lanterns killing Chuck (fire, CO). Chuck killing himself is just a guess. The lantern thing has been foreshadowed, so I would be surprised if there was no fire at some point, whether or not it kills Chuck. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/242 "2015-04-06T16:36:26Z")
Chuck has been abandoned. Jimmy has given him his last allotment of ice, bacon and fuel. He has to figure out a way to feed himself and have heat and light. It should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/243 "2015-04-06T16:37:07Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > And again I need to say it: I rewatched Breaking Bad in its entirety over the last couple of months, and there is no scene where Saul interacts with the neo-Nazis. Now, Saul would have known about them, very likely, and vice versa, but there is no reason to believe that the neo-Nazis would be after Saul. > > If you can find a scene in Breaking Bad that shows why they’d be after him, go ahead and remind me of it. Not your assumption, something in the actual show. > > Saul fears RECOGNITION, and the people most likely to recognise him (and who’d be most interested in a reward for doing so) would be his ex-clients. Who include, of course, all sorts of low-lifes. The guy in that scene had nothing to connect him to the neo-Nazis, he just looked like a regular guy. Short hair, nylon jacket. _Could_ possibly be a neo-Nazi, but there is nothing about him to make that any more likely than that he’s just some guy. Again, you are welcome to do a screen cap and post it with your annotations proving him to be a neo-Nazi, but I’m looking at his picture on my screen right now, and I don’t see it. He could just as likely be a cop as a neo-Nazi. But in fact he’s just some guy who was looking past Saul, not right at him. Present-day Saul (who we’ve seen only in the first-scene flash-forward) fears EVERYONE. The cops, the Cartel, the Neo-Nazis, any of his former clients, the ghost of Walter White…anyone and everyone who walks into his Cinnabon could turn out to be the one that recognizes him and turns him in. But I don’t think that’s relevant to BCS in any meaningful way; it’s only there to serve as the link between the two shows. I think it will be a long time before we see Saul in all his Breaking Bad glory, and that’s fine with me. There’s plenty of backstory to go before Jimmy makes his transformation. Going in to this show, I was looking forward to seeing how Saul met and interacted with all of the folks that we knew from Breaking Bad. Nine episodes later, I find myself hardly caring if we ever make it to ‘present day’. I have no idea what Vince Gilligan and crew have planned for the overall story arc, but I wouldn’t be shocked (or disappointed, based on what I’ve seen so far) if we didn’t meet “Saul Goodman” until the final scene of the final episode of the series. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/244 "2015-04-06T17:06:07Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The lantern thing has been foreshadowed, so I would be surprised if there was no fire at some point, whether or not it kills Chuck. A very good point. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/245 "2015-04-06T17:21:30Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Present-day Saul (who we’ve seen only in the first-scene flash-forward) fears EVERYONE. The cops, the Cartel, the Neo-Nazis, any of his former clients, the ghost of Walter White…anyone and everyone who walks into his Cinnabon could turn out to be the one that recognizes him and turns him in. But I don’t think that’s relevant to BCS in any meaningful way; it’s only there to serve as the link between the two shows. That’s correct. He thought that he saw the guy staring at him but he was actually staring past him at his family. No one knows where he is but you never know who will show up in Omaha by chance. I was in a little bed and breakfast in a small town in Chianti and my then wife recognized a couple who were the parents of a good friend of hers from college. They hadn’t seen each other in something like fifteen years. It’s a small world. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/246 "2015-04-06T17:38:20Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Going in to this show, I was looking forward to seeing how Saul met and interacted with all of the folks that we knew from Breaking Bad. Nine episodes later, I find myself hardly caring if we ever make it to ‘present day’. I have no idea what Vince Gilligan and crew have planned for the overall story arc, but I wouldn’t be shocked (or disappointed, based on what I’ve seen so far) if we didn’t meet “Saul Goodman” until the final scene of the final episode of the series. That is certainly the way the show is going, and I had the same reaction. Someone posted earlier that Vince Gilligan himself said in a podcast that he started off worrying that we wouldn’t get to Saul soon enough, and now he thinks the danger would be getting there too quickly. All of which makes me think that the first three episodes of season two will all take place in the present-day Cinnabon store. Because that’s just how VG rolls. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/247 "2015-04-06T17:40:45Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Going in to this show, I was looking forward to seeing how Saul met and interacted with all of the folks that we knew from Breaking Bad. Nine episodes later, I find myself hardly caring if we ever make it to ‘present day’. I have no idea what Vince Gilligan and crew have planned for the overall story arc, but I wouldn’t be shocked (or disappointed, based on what I’ve seen so far) if we didn’t meet “Saul Goodman” until the final scene of the final episode of the series. Really well said. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/248 "2015-04-06T17:58:30Z")
Some very minor spoilers in [this](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/better-call-saul-finale-bob-786234) article lead me to believe that tonight’s final is going to be epic. I can’t wait. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/249 "2015-04-06T18:04:14Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The lantern thing has been foreshadowed, so I would be surprised if there was no fire at some point, whether or not it kills Chuck. What’s been foreshadowed with the lanterns? It’s certainly possible I’m not remembering something (ie something briefly catching fire or Jimmy mentioning something about airing the CO out of the place, Chuck falling asleep and knocking one over), but just their existence in the show isn’t really a foreshadow. A Chekhov’s Gun, maybe, but that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/250 "2015-04-06T18:21:33Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > What’s been foreshadowed with the lanterns? It’s certainly possible I’m not remembering something (ie something briefly catching fire or Jimmy mentioning something about airing the CO out of the place, Chuck falling asleep and knocking one over), but just their existence in the show isn’t really a foreshadow. A Chekhov’s Gun, maybe, but that’s it. I’m pretty sure the danger was mentioned, probably by the doctor, when Chuck was about to be sectioned. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/251 "2015-04-06T18:41:30Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > I’m pretty sure the danger was mentioned, probably by the doctor, when Chuck was about to be sectioned. Now that you mention it, Kim might have actually been the one to say something when they were at the hospital, but I could be wrong. Interesting side note. They have to pump smoke into the house to give it that dusty look. It gets so bad the entire crew has to leave the set for 15 minutes (OSHA/Union required, from what I could tell) every few hours to get some fresh air which makes filming on that set much harder than on the other sets. I’m not sure if they’re on rotating schedules or if they just shut the whole place down (since there’s not much to do when Michael and Bob have to leave). ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/252 "2015-04-06T19:56:33Z")
Pretty sure the cops said something about all the cans, not only dangerous but also suspicious as their reason for busting into his house. It’s probably been mentioned once or twice elsewhere, too. As for “Chicago Sunroof,” I imagine it to be some sort of urinating/defecating from a bridge or overpass into an open vehicle below, [reminiscent of this Chicago incident](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/dave-matthews-sued-dumping-chicago) (which when it was in the news I thought it was said this wasn’t the first time that had happened…) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/253 "2015-04-06T19:59:13Z")
> [@troub](#): > > Pretty sure the cops said something about all the cans, not only dangerous but also suspicious as their reason for busting into his house. It’s probably been mentioned once or twice elsewhere, too. Yes. That was their probably cause for busting in without a warrant. They thought that it was, ironically, a meth factory. > [@](#): > > As for “Chicago Sunroof,” I imagine it to be some sort of urinating/defecating from a bridge or overpass into an open vehicle below, [reminiscent of this Chicago incident](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/dave-matthews-sued-dumping-chicago) (which when it was in the news I thought it was said this wasn’t the first time that had happened…) They made it up for the show. It didn’t have a meaning. They writers wanted us to speculate. ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/254 "2015-04-08T20:06:58Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > They made it up for the show. It didn’t have a meaning. It does now, and, \I was pretty much right 😃 \ ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/255 "2015-04-12T19:19:10Z")
There’s been a lot of discussion here about the actors and the roles they’ve played in various shows in the past, and I haven’t known any of them. I’m the right age to know _Laverne and Shirley_, but I never watched that. I’ve seen _This is Spinal Tap_ a couple of times but don’t remember Chuck in that. However, in this episode I recognized someone from a previous role, and it hasn’t been mentioned here yet. When I was watching The Pill Guy (“Price”), it was driving me crazy that I knew his voice but couldn’t place him. Then I pulled up that scene again last night and it hit me: he was Kenny Strasser, or K-Strass, the yo-yo guy. He went around the midwest a few years ago, getting on local TV shows by saying he was a yo-yo expert giving inspirational talks to area schools, and the TV stations, desperate for content, put him on the air. The appearances were comedy genius: [K-Strass the yo-yo man on KQTV in St. Joseph, Missouri](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9TLftki5U) [Kenny shows off the Blue Flying Angel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBzWHudBoiA) [K-Strass on his dark past](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzIQZccfzrU) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/256 "2015-04-12T20:48:23Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > There’s been a lot of discussion here about the actors and the roles they’ve played in various shows in the past, and I haven’t known any of them. I’m the right age to know _Laverne and Shirley_, but I never watched that. I’ve seen _This is Spinal Tap_ a couple of times but don’t remember Chuck in that. You don’t remember Michael McKean as David St. Hubbins, one of the two leads? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/257 "2015-04-12T21:57:16Z")
Uh… no. :o I mean I saw the movie, saw the series, but never said “Oh, that’s the same guy who played one of the leads in _Spinal Tap_.” ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/258 "2015-04-12T22:22:42Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > There’s been a lot of discussion here about the actors and the roles they’ve played in various shows in the past, and I haven’t known any of them. I’m the right age to know _Laverne and Shirley_, but I never watched that. I’ve seen _This is Spinal Tap_ a couple of times but don’t remember Chuck in that. > [@Acsenray](#): > > You don’t remember Michael McKean as David St. Hubbins, one of the two leads? > [@JohnT](#): > > Uh… no. :o > > I mean I saw the movie, saw the series, but never said “Oh, that’s the same guy who played one of the leads in _Spinal Tap_.” Who never said that? **CurtC** or **JohnT**? ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/259 "2015-04-12T22:34:47Z")
I also have seen _Spinal Tap_, at least two times (and I’ve seen many of the deleted scenes). But like JohnT, I didn’t see Chuck McGill and think “Oh, that’s the same guy.” I would have to go back and watch _Spinal Tap_ again to see if I could pick out which one he was. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395/260 "2015-04-13T02:36:38Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Going in to this show, I was looking forward to seeing how Saul met and interacted with all of the folks that we knew from Breaking Bad. Nine episodes later, I find myself hardly caring if we ever make it to ‘present day’. I agree completely. I was thrilled to see Tuco, partially because I’m secretly slightly in love with Raymond Cruz (why, I have no idea) and it was cool to see Nacho too. It was good that they used some of the BB crew to set it all up and hook us in those early episodes, and I hope we run into a few more every now and then, but at this point, but I don’t care much either. I just want to know about Jimmy’s and Mike’s stories. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-09-pimento/716395.md?page=14)