# Better Call Saul 1.10 "Marco" 4/6/15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 6, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987 "2015-04-06T19:58:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/122 "2015-04-15T21:04:18Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I think it’s quite common, with varying results (on \*LOST \*it was horrendous, and not just in the series finale). On _Breaking Bad_ it often worked out well, but I didn’t like at all that they had Bryan Cranston believing he was in fact innocent of having anything to do with Brock’s poisoning when Jesse had the gun to his head. And that whole plotline was too much of the LOST-esque “twisty for twisty’s sake” that was so awful on LOST. But this was the exception rather than the rule, and that is still my favorite show of all time. > > ETA: Some more interesting info from that podcast included the revelation that as originally mixed, the montage of scams was twice as long (good lord), and the whole scene in the bar was significantly longer as well. So that could have been worse–I found both of those too long even in their final form. Pleased to meet you - you’re of course absolutely right to hold Lost up as the worst kind of improvisational writing for television. I didn’t really see any problem with BB - there was always an arc to write to, and everything about Brock’s poisoning made sufficient sense as it played out (I thought the writing for Jesse in that whole plotline was particularly fitting). You’re right, too, about that clunking montage of scams (who does ‘Nigerian prince’ except by email? I imagine the writers wanted something people would recognise as a scam, but that felt awkward, as did the whole shift in style to accommodate it - it felt patronising, which so often marks a steep decline in quality. I hope not…) I did enjoy the realisation of why Jimmy had howled in the street the first time we saw the watch and wallet scam, and the Maid of Words enjoyed the final shot - she’s a visual creature and had alerted me to the debt BB owed to Andreas Gursky and his horizontal line landscapes, and noticed the shift to vertical when WW cut his head while shaving. The yellow lines made the same statement, albeit with less subtlety. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/123 "2015-04-15T21:31:30Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > who does ‘Nigerian prince’ except by email? I imagine the writers wanted something people would recognise as a scam, but that felt awkward. Does it take place before the email scam became popular? Besides, if the drunk guy in the bar buys it, go for it. A fellow was saw Superintendent received one of those emails, and was encouraged by employees who did not like him. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/124 "2015-04-16T04:19:59Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > I did enjoy the realisation of why Jimmy had howled in the street the first time we saw the watch and wallet scam Oh yeah: that reminds me of something else really interesting that I learned from the podcast. Both iterations of the watch and wallet scam in the alley were filmed around the same time (makes sense, financially); but the one in which Marco dies was filmed first! How bizarre that had to be for the actors. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/125 "2015-04-18T01:36:04Z")
On a purely incidental note, I’ve lately started rewatching _Arrested Development_ and Bob Odenkirk shows up in episode 6 as Lyndey’s and Tobias’s marriage counselor. ---
**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/126 "2015-04-18T04:43:30Z")
Is it true that Season 2 isn’t starting until next January? I’m gonna go crazy! ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/127 "2015-04-27T10:11:49Z")
Interesting [review of the first season](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/13/my-idea-of-fun) from Emily Nussbaum at The New Yorker. I have a more positive take on the season overall, but I can see where she’s coming from on some of her issues–and there’s no doubt that, as she notes, we live in an “age of triage” for high quality TV. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/128 "2015-04-27T12:33:35Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Interesting [review of the first season](http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/04/13/my-idea-of-fun) from Emily Nussbaum at The New Yorker. I have a more positive take on the season overall, but I can see where she’s coming from on some of her issues–and there’s no doubt that, as she notes, we live in an “age of triage” for high quality TV. Interesting article, thanks. So, she sees room for improvement, no doubt Gilligan and Gould will provide it as they hone and craft this little jewel. I’m so happy to have it, today’s TV is almost being destroyed by reality shows – real housewives, ballroom dancing, bearded bayou rednecks, etc. – I lap up creative shows such as BCS like cream. I liked: “Odenkirk, with his wry croak of a voice and his surfer-gone-to-seed looks, remains a likable figure, even when he’s doing wrong.” “… the seed of a funny, mean idea inside that portrait: that being a lawyer and being a grifter are not, in truth, different jobs.” Indeed. “It has received plenty of praise for its cinematography, which has the deliberate framing of a graphic novel illustrated by Edward Hopper, …” Yes, sometimes the “Nighthawks” painting dances on the edge of my mind… “… nine episodes in, “Better Call Saul” never really answers the question: Would you watch this show if you didn’t miss “Breaking Bad”?” I say, yes, yes, and yes! I have friends who never watched BB, but joined me in BCS viewing parties, and fell in love with it … mostly because of Odenkirk’s sweet gentleness, the “metamorphosis of a sad sack.” (In fact, I was a BB late bloomer, friends kept bugging me, saying it was the best thing on TV, but every time I’d check it out, the gruesome violence turned me off. Then, thank goodness, a friend kept hounding me to start from S-1, E-1 … I have only basic cable, so when AMC announced a marathon I happened to be free to binge watch, and finally “got it” … slapping my face to stay awake, just turned my head during violent scenes.) Anyway, I’m stickin’ like glue to BCS … biding my time with Mad Men, PBS, The Last Man on Earth, Louie CK …also watching Orphan Black on Netflix DVD’s. What are you guys watching? Or should we start another thread? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/129 "2015-04-27T13:23:12Z")
I’m watching this one, that’s about it. Don’t have a lot of time for TV and when I do, I throw a movie on more often than not. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/130 "2015-04-27T22:55:54Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > Anyway, I’m stickin’ like glue to BCS … biding my time with Mad Men, PBS, The Last Man on Earth, Louie CK …also watching Orphan Black on Netflix DVD’s. > > What are you guys watching? Or should we start another thread? I’m thinking it’s better to start another thread–but when you do, please link it here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/131 "2015-05-01T11:58:52Z")
[In case you missed it:](http://www.vulture.com/2015/05/best-answers-from-vince-gilligans-ama.html) (Interview with Vince Gilligan) Who else will show up in BCS? “Anybody and everybody. The sky’s the limit! That’s the beauty of this format. The story takes place six years in the past, where all the Breaking Bad characters are alive and well, but that’s not to promise that you’ll see every character that we introduced in Breaking Bad. We’re still feeling our way through Jimmy McGill’s format, discovering how and why he becomes Saul Goodman – and in the process, there’s any number of directions our story can take. So I couldn’t really tell you even if I wanted to who will show up, or when. Better Call Saul is still very much a work in progress.” He says lots more Nacho. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/132 "2015-05-02T00:28:17Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > [In case you missed it:](http://www.vulture.com/2015/05/best-answers-from-vince-gilligans-ama.html) > > (Interview with Vince Gilligan) > > Who else will show up in BCS? > > “Anybody and everybody. The sky’s the limit! That’s the beauty of this format. The story takes place six years in the past, where all the Breaking Bad characters are alive and well, but that’s not to promise that you’ll see every character that we introduced in Breaking Bad. We’re still feeling our way through Jimmy McGill’s format, discovering how and why he becomes Saul Goodman – and in the process, there’s any number of directions our story can take. So I couldn’t really tell you even if I wanted to who will show up, or when. Better Call Saul is still very much a work in progress.” > > He says lots more Nacho. Nacho \> pancakes ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/133 "2015-05-02T19:44:48Z")
I’m pretty sure that Nacho is the Ignacio that Saul mentions in BB in the episode when he first meets Walt and Jesse. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/134 "2015-05-02T20:57:38Z")
That would make sense. “Nacho” is a common diminutive for Ignacio. Nacho chips are named after a person named Ignacio. ---
**Author:** ![DrForrester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8edcca/32.png) [@DrForrester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrForrester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/135 "2015-06-21T17:52:14Z")
I really love how well Vince Gilligan uses foreshadowing. He leaves little hints here & there & allows things to grow naturally. And, so it was that about 2 months late, it finally dawned on me how VG will likely end the BCS series when it’s time comes. There are details to be ironed out, but I think he’s built it in right at the start so that he has a target to hit at the end. It’s a little like a magic trick - totally obvious once you know the secret, but a solid whoosh if you don’t. I’d put it here in a spoiler box, but I don’t see how that works. So, I’ll just say that it would follow logically from his pursuit of Elder Law. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/136 "2015-06-21T19:24:14Z")
[ spoiler ] [/ spoiler ] Take out the hard returns before and after the word “spoiler” then put your text in between the bracketed code. ---
**Author:** ![DrForrester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8edcca/32.png) [@DrForrester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrForrester)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/137 "2015-06-21T19:37:25Z")
They say unambiguously that Jimmy will receive millions of dollars “on the back end”, in several years, after all of the litigation is completed. Jimmy pays his moral debts via several years of living in hiding. Then, through a mechanism yet to be revealed, he finally receives the money that he earned honestly. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/138 "2015-06-29T20:00:28Z")
Interesting idea. But do we really need to treat speculation as a spoiler? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/139 "2015-06-29T20:27:24Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > But do we really need to treat speculation as a spoiler? Legal sneakiness is contagious. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/140 "2015-06-29T20:28:52Z")
LOL, makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2015, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/141 "2015-07-27T11:19:11Z")
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