# Better Call Saul 2.01 "Switch" 2/15/16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 12, 2016, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915 "2016-02-12T11:21:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/81 "2016-02-21T17:39:14Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Damn! You’re right. I guess it depends what time zone you’re in though. Not sure there is a time zone where it’ll be showing in the next 24 hours though. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/82 "2016-02-22T00:04:49Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Not sure there is a time zone where it’ll be showing in the next 24 hours though. Yes, you’re right. I was looking for an escape hatch. Like, Martian days or something. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/83 "2016-02-22T04:18:28Z")
More filler and by-product than an off-brand hot-dog. P fuckin’ U. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/84 "2016-02-22T04:21:02Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > More filler and by-product than an off-brand hot-dog. P fuckin’ U. I gather you didn’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/85 "2016-02-22T05:39:27Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > I gather you didn’t like it. He’s a hero. He puts himself through the ordeal of watching this utter garbage, which he so clearly hates, so that he can provide the valuable public service of telling us how stupid the show we’re discussing and interested in is. He was actually worse in the Breaking Bad threads - basically hist posts amounted to “How can you idiots all think this show is so smart? Not me, I watch actual quality television!” but I’m too lazy to dig through the old threads for quotes. Here are some from last season of Better Call Saul: > [@Better Call Saul Episodes 1 and 2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/46): > > I’m not too sure about this… Before the show aired, he was showing clear trepedation. He knew he was going to hate the show, and yet heroically made himself watch anyway. > [@Better Call Saul Episodes 1 and 2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/194): > > Its problems like these that are making it difficult to watch this show. The same kind of stuff that made me quit Breaking Bad. > … > > I hate to sound like a dick, but I really don’t think the writers of these shows have an ounce of respect for the audience and expect the viewers to gobble down bowls of shit and beg for more. > > I bailed on Bad, and if things keep going the way they are here, will most likely stop this show as well. Too bad, I’m an Odenkirk fan. No, you can’t stop. Why would you stop watching a show you hate when you can go on threads about it and tell everyone how much you hate it? You must see it through to the end. > [@Better Call Saul Episodes 1 and 2](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/197): > > I hear ya\*. I can do the mental gymnastics to justify most of the stupid so far > > … > > But for me, stupid compounds. And it reaches a critical mass. There is a lot of stupid piling up. > > Now, I caught a _train-load_ of grief for supposedly shitting in Breading Bad threads, so I’m trying to point out exactly what I have a problem with in this show. > > It looks like I’m not alone in getting hit with the stupid. A little is fine, to move the story. But, come on guys! > [@Better Call Saul 1.10 "Marco" 4/6/15](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-1-10-marco-4-6-15/716987/21): > > For many of the reasons already mentioned above. Pure Corn. > > Not to mention about 45 minutes of stupid filler. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/86 "2016-02-22T06:35:36Z")
Yes, **Gatopescado** is clearly very, very brave for suffering through it. (One also has to wonder what such a person thinks is “quality television”. Two Broke Girls? CSI: Miami? Hoarders?) ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/87 "2016-02-22T06:44:37Z")
Unsurprising. The only positive words in Cafe Society from Gatopescado that I can find are for cartoons, and live action cartoons like Gilligan’s Island and It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Maybe just stick to cartoons. > [@Name some completely "unremarkable" movies](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-some-completely-unremarkable-movies/743289/11): > > Boring. Boring. Boring. But had “mood” that kept you wondering why you were still watching this piece of shit. Much like _Winter’s Bone_. Junk. > [@Worst film to get an Oscar nomination](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/worst-film-to-get-an-oscar-nomination/744184/22): > > All this time I thought I was the only one who thought that [The Deer Hunter isn’t very good]. The love this snore-fest garners never ceases to amaze me. That awful wedding scene drags on longer than some actual marriages! > [@Movies that wasted their premise by making the charecters into idiots](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/movies-that-wasted-their-premise-by-making-the-charecters-into-idiots/737526/14): > > I seem to recall yelling at the screen while watching _Silence of the Lambs_. Jodie Foster is supposed to be some kind of super special agent, who does every thing exactly right. That is, right up till the end of the movie, where she seems to forget any training she may have had and runs around like an idiot. > > Stupid, stupid movie. Re: Memento (getting remade) > [@"Memento" getting remake - WTF?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/memento-getting-remake-wtf/739236/10): > > I didn’t care too much for the first one. This quote explains much: > [@What TV series did you anticipate most eagerly?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-tv-series-did-you-anticipate-most-eagerly/737507/17): > > I was kinda excited about _The Colbert Report_. That was a pretty damn good show most of the time, I shit you not. 😉 Other than that, the only TV I get excited about is on PBS, college football and Formula One. Despite not liking scripted dramas, Gatopescado bravely soldiers on in order to let us, the unwashed masses, know how bad everything is. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/88 "2016-02-22T07:20:46Z")
I was going to defend **Gatopescado** for simply having a opinion, but then I read further… ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/89 "2016-02-22T08:06:46Z")
Makes me smile, this thread does. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/90 "2016-02-22T12:42:50Z")
All of you, take it to the Pit if you have a problem with another poster…either that or report the posts you find offending without making it seem like a personal attack. **SenorBeef** , you were just recently warned about doing things similar to this, although there are others doing the same thing in this topic: Everyone needs to report the post and resist the urge to call out others on their posting behavior, **especially** if it’s about posts they didn’t even make in this topic. At best it’s Jr Modding and at worst, it can hijack a topic and cause a massive fight with insults thrown around. Let’s all get back to the topic at hand and off of one poster’s past posts/behavior. If you want to talk about that poster, make a Pit thread about them. Beyond this point, I don’t want to see any more posts about that hijack. That all being said… > [@Gatopescado](#): > > More filler and by-product than an off-brand hot-dog. P fuckin’ U. It’s obvious from your many past posts on these shows that you don’t like them. You’ve made it clear…time and time and time again. At this point, it’s really looking like you’re taking the chance just to threadshit in each topic about each episode, so if you don’t like the show, you don’t have to post in them. Don’t post in any more if you’re just going to basically put your hate for it in different ways, you can just ignore the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/91 "2016-02-22T14:55:20Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > Is there anything to suggest Ken was trying to con them, or does it appear he attempting to provide a legitimate service albeit one with a nice fat fee? I don’t think he was a con man per se any more than those guys con their clients as a part of their SOP. I got the sense (and some things I have read seem to confirm) the creators originally planned to make Jimmy into Saul at the end of the first season but realized there was more interesting stories to tell about Jimmy so they backpedaled a bit. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/92 "2016-02-22T14:56:05Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **SenorBeef** , you were just recently warned about doing things similar to this I don’t believe that’s correct, I was careful not to use any sort of phrasing that might be viewed as a direct insult that could be seized on. I don’t think that [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=782402) has anything to do with me finding quotes from him from previous episode threads to demonstrate his pattern of contributions to it. In any case, next time he starts up his schtick, I’ll make a pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/93 "2016-02-22T15:01:59Z")
Take any further discussion to ATMB, this is not the place to argue over mod decisions. If you felt the need to correct me, you could do so in PM or ATMB. Don’t discuss this issue or decision again beyond this post, please. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/94 "2016-02-24T09:19:13Z")
So anyway, the second episode of Better Call Saul was great! Not sure if there’s a separate thread for it or if we just continue here… ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/95 "2016-02-24T09:31:50Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > So anyway, the second episode of Better Call Saul was great! Not sure if there’s a separate thread for it or if we just continue here… [There is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=784824)! ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915/96 "2016-02-24T18:25:04Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > [There is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=784824)! Blessed be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-01-switch-2-15-16/745915.md?page=4)