# Better Call Saul 2.04 "Gloves Off" 3/7/16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 8, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253 "2016-03-08T02:50:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/81 "2016-03-11T11:40:08Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > What impressed me about that scene was that Mike’s freezer has a light that enabled us to read the Kroger-brand packaging in the first place. Are lights in freezers a thing now, or did the show’s prop department rig one up just for this scene? I’ve never in my life seen a home freezer with a light. I have one in mine. Similar style/vintage as Mikes… ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/82 "2016-03-11T13:57:05Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > What impressed me about that scene was that Mike’s freezer has a light that enabled us to read the Kroger-brand packaging in the first place. Are lights in freezers a thing now, or did the show’s prop department rig one up just for this scene? I’ve never in my life seen a home freezer with a light. My fridge/freezer is about 15 years old, and has a freezer light. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/83 "2016-03-11T14:33:08Z")
Some do, some don’t. Just depends how much you want to pay for that little feature. Just like ice makers. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/84 "2016-03-11T15:41:22Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > I think Kim dug her own grave with the ad - it was clearly so clearly not appropriate for the firm, and she knows Jimmy plays fast and loose with the rules. For his sake she should have stressed to him how out of character it was for H&M, and asked if he really got a full OK on it. She wouldn’t have to call him out, just explain how a firm like that trades on it’s image and how shocking this is. For her sake she should have mentioned it to the firm, and if not should have at least offered ‘Jimmy said that it was approved by the partners, so I didn’t think it was going to be a problem for us’ as a defense. Great point. I believe Chuck when he says ‘Believe it or not, Jimmy, this has nothing to do with you’. Kim’s bad judgement went beyond just trusting Jimmy. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/85 "2016-03-11T19:21:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if this season will see the birth of Saul Goodman when Chuck finally says “Okay I’ll admit I’m extorting you if you’ll just go away”. I took for granted that the Jimmy-offers-Chuck-the-deal scene was indeed the set-up for the entry of Saul Goodman, Esquire. Presumably Chuck will eventually say ‘okay\*, I’ll admit…\*’ (as you put it), and Jimmy will reply along the lines of _‘alright–you will now be the only McGill practicing law in this family.’_ ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/86 "2016-03-11T19:37:57Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I took for granted that the Jimmy-offers-Chuck-the-deal scene was indeed the set-up for the entry of Saul Goodman, Esquire. Presumably Chuck will eventually say ‘okay\*, I’ll admit…\*’ (as you put it), and Jimmy will reply along the lines of _‘alright–you will now be the only McGill practicing law in this family.’_ Sneaky sneaky. But Jimmy of course does continue to practice law—just under a different name. Like Calvin and Calbin and Hobbes, he obeys the letter of the law if not the spirit. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/87 "2016-03-11T19:39:46Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > Sneaky sneaky. But Jimmy of course does continue to practice law—just under a different name. Like Calvin and Calbin and Hobbes, he obeys the letter of the law if not the spirit. Yeah, that was my assumption. But of course Gilligan and Gould rarely do the obvious, so maybe it will be something else entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/88 "2016-03-14T19:17:58Z")
Looks like tonight’s episode (thread hasn’t been started yet) will feature a: [spoiler][new character](http://www.buzzfeed.com/bibindominictom/vince-gilligan-more-abreaking-bada-stars-may-spno#.wuaGaqYMV) that we know from Breaking Bad. Probably not Walt or Jesse. I’m thinking Gus. > [@](#): > > Watchers of the show are already familiar with one character that has appeared on both shows. They can prepare themselves to see another on the upcoming March 14th episode of Better Call Saul. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/89 "2016-03-14T21:29:27Z")
I think Huell! ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/90 "2016-03-14T21:42:00Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > I think Huell! Love Huell! But the guy sitting opposite Mike in the booth in the promo when Mike asks, “Do I know you?” looks much smaller than Huell and well-dressed…more like Gus. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/91 "2016-03-14T21:47:36Z")
Not a spoiler since I don’t know anything, but: I’d put money on Hank and Gomey showing up at some point. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/92 "2016-03-14T22:30:14Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Looks like tonight’s episode (thread hasn’t been started yet) will feature a: > > [spoiler][new character](http://www.buzzfeed.com/bibindominictom/vince-gilligan-more-abreaking-bada-stars-may-spno#.wuaGaqYMV) that we know from Breaking Bad. Probably not Walt or Jesse. I’m thinking Gus. > > [/spoiler] I did some digging around and found it. SPOILER ALERT: The following link contains details of the March 14 episode of AMC’s Better Call Saul. ['Better Call Saul' At PaleyFest 2016: Who Shows Up From 'Breaking Bad' Past?](http://deadline.com/2016/03/better-call-saul-paleyfest-2016-breaking-bad-cameo-spoiler-1201719459/) ---
**Author:** ![breezman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@breezman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/breezman)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/93 "2016-03-15T00:31:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I wonder if his uncle Hector is going to be on the show, and if he is I wonder if he’ll be walking and talking. Here’s how I’d introduce the character: Episode opens at Tuco’s restaurant. A customer comes in with no one behind the counter. Customer looks down at the counter and sees the bell sitting there next to a sign that says “ring bell for service.” Customer waits a moment, then “ding ding”. No one comes out front. 30 seconds later “ding ding ding!” “Anybody here?” Still no one comes out. “Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!” Irate customer walks out of the restaurant. Tio Hector hears the door shut, walks out, drops the sign in the trash, and pockets the bell. Opening credits. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/94 "2016-03-15T02:42:26Z")
Never mind, question answered indirectly. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/95 "2016-03-15T03:04:27Z")
> [@breezman](#): > > Here’s how I’d introduce the character: > > Episode opens at Tuco’s restaurant. A customer comes in with no one behind the counter. Customer looks down at the counter and sees the bell sitting there next to a sign that says “ring bell for service.” Customer waits a moment, then “ding ding”. No one comes out front. 30 seconds later “ding ding ding!” “Anybody here?” Still no one comes out. “Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!” > > Irate customer walks out of the restaurant. > > Tio Hector hears the door shut, walks out, drops the sign in the trash, and pockets the bell. > > Opening credits. Apparently they read part of your post at least. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/96 "2016-03-15T03:05:30Z")
Who is that? Face rings a bell… ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/97 "2016-03-15T17:03:51Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > It’s just a recording saying you’ve reached Davis & Maine, if you were a resident of a Sandpiper Crossing facility you may be eligible for compensation, yada yada, leave your info in a message (but the line cuts off automatically right after the beep). Just the fact that they went to the trouble to set up an actual phone line for the show is a nice touch though (and it’s an authentic Albuquerque, NM area code). So they’re still dealing with the Sandpiper case in 2016, or did they just forget to change the answering message? Maybe Jimmy strikes out on his own when he realizes that his Sandpiper payout won’t be coming for at least a decade. Yeah, I know… I’m thinking too much. The actual existence of a live phone message isn’t a clue to anything. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/98 "2016-03-15T22:50:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > So they’re still dealing with the Sandpiper case in 2016, or did they just forget to change the answering message? > > Maybe Jimmy strikes out on his own when he realizes that his Sandpiper payout won’t be coming for at least a decade. > > Yeah, I know… I’m thinking too much. The actual existence of a live phone message isn’t a clue to anything. It would be in Sandpiper’s interest to stall since a lot of the defendants will either die or have to move to permanent care in that decade. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253/99 "2016-03-16T02:04:50Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > So they’re still dealing with the Sandpiper case in 2016, or did they just forget to change the answering message? > > Maybe Jimmy strikes out on his own when he realizes that his Sandpiper payout won’t be coming for at least a decade. > > Yeah, I know… I’m thinking too much. The actual existence of a live phone message isn’t a clue to anything. I’m not sure the message was actually connected with AMC. However, I do have a Better Call Saul t-shirt with a phone number on it. Some of my students decided to try calling the number to see what would happen and they got Bob Odenkirk’s voice doing the ad. Pretty cool. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-04-gloves-off-3-7-16/748253.md?page=4)