# Better Call Saul 2.07 "Inflatable" 3/28/16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500 "2016-03-29T03:17:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/81 "2016-04-01T16:46:47Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Because he’s a ruthless gangster who expects people to obide by their agreements? As I said above, Mike’s little changeup could be trouble. I would interpret ‘use a lawyer to get the best wording to convince the DA that the gun is yours without directly getting in trouble for it’ to fit within a deal who’s quick summary is ‘say the gun is yours’, and it seems out of character for Mike to do something that he thinks is breaking the deal. Partially because he’s big on keeping deals, but also only made the deal to protect Kaylee - if he goes back on it, they have no reason not to go after her, so I think Mike must think he’s following the terms. Also, using future knowledge, I think that if the family did think he went back on the deal, they’d just kill Kaylee and she wouldn’t be around for BB, and Mike can’t preemptively kill the cousins or old man to protect her, since they are all around for BB too. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/82 "2016-04-01T16:49:11Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > This show is about the devolution of Jimmy into Saul. And even Saul at his worst as seen in BB, was one hell of a fun character to watch. Let alone Mike. Yeah, it’s easy to have a character who’s fun on a show but would be an asshole or terrifying IRL. Tuco is great to watch too, but there’s no way I’d voluntarily stay anywhere near him. Even though Saul is clearly going to be a worse person than Jimmy, I’m sure he’s going to be spectacular on screen. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/83 "2016-04-01T16:58:42Z")
I don’t agree about the “devolution” of either Walter White or Jimmy McGill, or even Mime Ehrmantrout. For that matter. It’s a progression. Each is doing what they feel they must under the circumstances. Jimmy bloomed when he became Saul Goodman, and he actually did very well as a “criminal” defence lawyer. Much better than trying to make it the “honest” (and boring) way. That’s what makes these characters interesting: we get to watch them break bad vicariously without having to get our own hands dirty. It’s like watching Macbeth. He had good intentions at one time, but by the end of the story, we’re cheering for the antagonist. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/84 "2016-04-01T17:04:51Z")
Pantastic: As I said above, I think the prosecution could still proceed with the gun charge. They said Tuco’s fingerprints were the only ones on the gun. Absent a definitive statement from Mike that he had it first they just might, even if it’s a bluff. And I also doubt Mike considers a deal made under threat of killing his granddaughter as something he’s honour bound to keep. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/85 "2016-04-01T17:20:18Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I don’t agree about the “devolution” of either Walter White or Jimmy McGill, or even Mime Ehrmantrout. He’s a man of few words, sure, but that’s going too far. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/86 "2016-04-01T18:07:27Z")
I don’t get how the TV commercial almost derails Kim’s career but this non-flushing clown show doesn’t raise an eyebrow. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/87 "2016-04-01T18:23:18Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I don’t get how the TV commercial almost derails Kim’s career but this non-flushing clown show doesn’t raise an eyebrow. He was just trying to save water, sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/88 "2016-04-01T18:48:40Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > I don’t get how the TV commercial almost derails Kim’s career but this non-flushing clown show doesn’t raise an eyebrow. The problem with the commercial was that she knew about it and didn’t say anything (and remember that she didn’t tell them that Jimmy misled her about it). The clown show, on the other hand, is all Jimmy’s doing, it’s not something she could prevent or have any say in. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/89 "2016-04-01T18:56:23Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The problem with the commercial was that she knew about it and didn’t say anything (and remember that she didn’t tell them that Jimmy misled her about it). The clown show, on the other hand, is all Jimmy’s doing, it’s not something she could prevent or have any say in. That’s a plausible explanation for Howard’s petty behaviour, but it still reflects extremely poorly on her and HMM. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/90 "2016-04-01T20:26:01Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The problem with the commercial was that she knew about it and didn’t say anything (and remember that she didn’t tell them that Jimmy misled her about it). The clown show, on the other hand, is all Jimmy’s doing, it’s not something she could prevent or have any say in. This is true, but she has one foot out the door anyway and there may not have been enough time yet for her to get any blowback from his shenanigans. Cliff has to complain to Hamlin before Hamlin can come down hard on Kim for making them look bad (for recommending Jimmy in the first place). ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/91 "2016-04-01T20:50:45Z")
Right, but understand my response in the context of **Pedro’s** question. Yes, her judgement of character is suspect due to her recommending Jimmy, but the situation with the ad and the situation concerning his deliberately disruptive behavior aren’t equivalent. Both situations call her ability to judge character into question, but the first one (with the ad) also calls her sense of business ethics and even her common sense in general into question. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/92 "2016-04-01T22:01:10Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Both situations call her ability to judge character into question, but the first one (with the ad) also calls her sense of business ethics and even her common sense in general into question. Right - in Hamlin’ view she _knew about the ad and didn’t say anything_. But she wouldn’t necessarily have known about Jimmy’s campaign to get fired via excessive jackholery. And in fact as far as we know she didn’t know anything about the clown show and probably still doesn’t other than the result ( as of this episode ). ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/93 "2016-04-01T23:04:47Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Right - in Hamlin’ view she _knew about the ad and didn’t say anything_. But she wouldn’t necessarily have known about Jimmy’s campaign to get fired via excessive jackholery. And in fact as far as we know she didn’t know anything about the clown show and probably still doesn’t other than the result ( as of this episode ). There’s plenty of time for Clifford to be on the phone with Hamlin telling him his lawyer (McGill) is an unprofessional jackass and he (Hamlin) is a jackass for recommending him. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2016, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/94 "2016-04-01T23:50:15Z")
I think this is a fruitless conversational thread. We have not on screen seeing Kim getting chewed out by Hamlin in relation to Jimmy’s jackassery. This could be for any number of different entirely plausible reasons, it’s irrelevant which one it is. There’s no contradiction here. There’s no puzzle to solve. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/95 "2016-04-02T01:28:51Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I think this is a fruitless conversational thread. We have not on screen seeing Kim getting chewed out by Hamlin in relation to Jimmy’s jackassery. > > This could be for any number of different entirely plausible reasons, it’s irrelevant which one it is. There’s no contradiction here. There’s no puzzle to solve. Besides, when Jimmy told her it was over with Davis & Main, she asked what happened. She doesn’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/96 "2016-04-02T01:56:41Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I think this is a fruitless conversational thread. We have not on screen seeing Kim getting chewed out by Hamlin in relation to Jimmy’s jackassery. > > This could be for any number of different entirely plausible reasons, it’s irrelevant which one it is. There’s no contradiction here. There’s no puzzle to solve. Am I doing this message board thing wrong? It’s implausible (to me, at least) that there’s no hint of fallback from how Jimmy departs Davis & Main, especially considering the TV commercial subplot. It may still come to pass but clearly the show seems to have moved on. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/97 "2016-04-02T02:17:18Z")
Something else: those two amateur filmmakers are a couple of my favorite characters. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/98 "2016-04-02T03:16:54Z")
> [@Pedro](#): > > Am I doing this message board thing wrong? > > It’s implausible (to me, at least) that there’s no hint of fallback from how Jimmy departs Davis & Main, especially considering the TV commercial subplot. Possibility #1: Howard knows everything, that’s part of why he was such an ass when Kim got those new clients Possibility #2: Cliff hasn’t told Howard. Why would he? He might just think that it’s internal Davis and Main business. Possibility #3: Howard knows everything, but doesn’t blame Kim at all. He was upset about the ad because she knew about it and didn’t tell anyone. He’s a reasonable enough person not to continue to blame Kim for everything bad that Jimmy does Possibility #4: Some combination of the above Certainly I wouldn’t find it odd if it was brought up, but I don’t see it as a plot hole or glaring emission that it has not been. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/99 "2016-04-02T03:24:46Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Possibility #1: Howard knows everything, that’s part of why he was such an ass when Kim got those new clients > > Possibility #2: Cliff hasn’t told Howard. Why would he? He might just think that it’s internal Davis and Main business. > > Possibility #3: Howard knows everything, but doesn’t blame Kim at all. He was upset about the ad because she knew about it and didn’t tell anyone. He’s a reasonable enough person not to continue to blame Kim for everything bad that Jimmy does > > Possibility #4: Some combination of the above > Certainly I wouldn’t find it odd if it was brought up, but I don’t see it as a plot hole or glaring emission that it has not been. Agreed. None of that shit matters. Kim has been in the doghouse for awhile due to her not disclosing the commercial thing. In order to move the story forward, Kim needs to leave HHM. There is ample reason to do so without dragging Howard into this flashy suits/non-flushing/bagpipes thing. it’s irrelevant. Kim already has enough reason to leave HHM - she knows she has no future there. ---
**Author:** ![Pedro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@Pedro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pedro)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500/100 "2016-04-02T03:34:15Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Possibility #1: Howard knows everything, that’s part of why he was such an ass when Kim got those new clients > > Possibility #2: Cliff hasn’t told Howard. Why would he? He might just think that it’s internal Davis and Main business. > > Possibility #3: Howard knows everything, but doesn’t blame Kim at all. He was upset about the ad because she knew about it and didn’t tell anyone. He’s a reasonable enough person not to continue to blame Kim for everything bad that Jimmy does > > Possibility #4: Some combination of the above > Certainly I wouldn’t find it odd if it was brought up, but I don’t see it as a plot hole or glaring emission that it has not been. I said implausible, not impossible. But anyway it’s just something that stuck out at me about this episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-07-inflatable-3-28-16/750500.md?page=6)