# Better Call Saul 2.08 "Fifi" 4/4/16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 4, 2016, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208 "2016-04-04T23:42:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/121 "2016-04-08T04:31:35Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > The customs guy knocked on the wall and the ceiling of the truck when he was checking it out. So he was looking for that but they could have done a good enough job to get past that. Good enough for the story, but IRL the search would be much more thorough. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/122 "2016-04-08T05:29:52Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Good enough for the story, but IRL the search would be much more thorough. Really? As a presumably routine stop of a truck? There’s a difference between “we have intelligence that this truck has drugs, let’s look for them” and “we routinely search hundreds of trucks each day, this is one of them”. In the latter case you can’t disassemble the truck to the ground level just to be thorough… ---
**Author:** ![btcg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@btcg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/btcg)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/123 "2016-04-08T07:14:09Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > I find myself liking Howard more and more as the series goes on. He seemed like an arrogant money-grubbing douchecanoe at the start, but the more we see of him the more he seems to actually care about people around him. From his conversation with Kim it sounds like he actually doesn’t really like the life he’s in and really envies her striking on her own, and kind of regrets doing what his father pushed him to. He’s a much more sympathetic character than he seemed. > > I think Jimmy may setting up for him and Kim to split up in the season finale (it’s 10 episodes, right?). He went way beyond shady antics like faking to get a ‘war hero’ onto a base for an ad, he abused Chuck’s trust to actively sabotage some of their filings for Mesa Verde which is way worse than anything we’ve seen him do so far, and he did it for Kim’s sake. > \*\* > No idea exactly what Mike is planning, I think the nail hose is going to be used to stop a car (lay it on the road, tires hit nails and go flat), but I’m not sure what his next step will be. I’m surprised he let Kaylee help with it, I’d expect him to compartmentalize more.\*\* Star nails would have been easier, cheaper, and far more covert. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/124 "2016-04-08T07:25:53Z")
I’m a big fan of Weiner dogs. Enjoyed the first part and even one of the commercial breaks. ---
**Author:** ![btcg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@btcg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/btcg)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/125 "2016-04-08T07:36:36Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Yeah I just figured that it wills screw up all further proceedings if the address is wrong, and cause a lot of headaches and waste time for the client. Nothing really to do with losing mail. Wrong address= no longer valid or legal. A MAJOR screwup!I It’ll be blamed on the nutjob… of course. ---
**Author:** ![btcg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@btcg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/btcg)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/126 "2016-04-08T08:38:04Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I figured it out! He’s not bringing meth INTO the US. Instead, he’s filling another vital role in the merchandising cycle - returning defective/excess/returned/unwanted goods from the distributor to the to the manufacturer. Maybe the NM criminal ordered too much of the wrong type of drug one month, and is returning them for a credit. Maybe the methheads didn’t enjoy the high, so they returned their unused portions for a full refund. > > So there was nothing to be found crossing from Mexico into the US - they simply loaded up with popsicles to defray the cost of a roundtrip’s gas. > > The driver hides a gun on the US side because everyone knows Tuco and that bunch are crazy! > > Whaddya think? I have a second career as TV writer? Pay closer attention: you can hear the power tools after the truck is pulled into the building: drugs are being extracted. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/127 "2016-04-08T13:03:28Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > So, it’s not important that Jimmy’s fingerprints are all over those documents? No one will suspect since the address is altered on every one? > > But Kim will know who sabotaged the docs … > > **I heard someone say that Jimmy does the wrong thing for the right reasons,** Chuck the right thing for the wrong reasons. > > Excellent episode, I love this show. I think this statement I highlighted is a good time to mentiomn something I enjoyed but forgot to mention in an earlier episode. Chuck told Kim about the money missing from their father’s business. Posters commenting on that episode queried whether Jimmy did indeed steal their father’s money, or whether their father was being done out of money by others. Well, in the next episode we saw it was both. Jimmy _was_ stealing after he saw what a soft touch his father was. That’s what I love about this show. Most of it is a grey area. In most other drama series the young Jimmy would have been shown completely innocent. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/128 "2016-04-08T13:19:41Z")
One thing I didn’t get about the scene in which Jimmy sold two packs of cigarettes to the grifter and pocketed the money; wouldn’t his father have noticed the inventory shortfall, without seeing a corresponding amount of money in the till? Or was the accounting so sloppy that it would not be noticed? ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/129 "2016-04-08T13:25:01Z")
Didn’t Jimmy not only pocket the money from the smokes but also took the cash in the till? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/130 "2016-04-08T13:36:13Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Really? As a presumably routine stop of a truck? There’s a difference between “we have intelligence that this truck has drugs, let’s look for them” and “we routinely search hundreds of trucks each day, this is one of them”. In the latter case you can’t disassemble the truck to the ground level just to be thorough… More thorough than a couple of knocks on the panels. Quick inspections can be done without pulling into the high bay. I do appreciate the artistic effort of the opening shot, but it was only 4 minutes long. Of course, every now and then a border agent is in on the smuggling. But if that were the case here they would have had a popsicle too.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/131 "2016-04-08T14:14:56Z")
The previews for next week’s episode gives a lot of clues to where this thing is going. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG1IHlMJWY4) ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/132 "2016-04-08T16:11:08Z")
My recording stopped before the previews - I’ll have to look. What bothered me about the somewhat cursory inspection was that they also had a dog walking around the outside of the truck. Not sure how things are done at the border, but on more than one occasion I’ve seen local LEOs using dogs following traffic stops, and they sure work to encourage those dogs to give a reaction. So I was imagining whatever smuggling scheme would have to somehow evade detection by the dogs. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/133 "2016-04-08T16:28:00Z")
I’m thinking that the wrong building could end up being at least partly demolished because of the address change. I’m wondering about paper watermarks. The law firm may use a brand with a watermark that wouldn’t match the paper from some random copy store. Regarding the preview (don’t open if you like to avoid previews): The preview shows Jimmy going back to the store and talking to the clerk. Which makes me think that maybe someone figured out what was done and he’s now concerned that the clerk can identify him. Maybe he’s planning to bribe the clerk. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/134 "2016-04-08T16:46:42Z")
He did ask for a very specific quality of paper for the copying and he was going over his changes with a magnifying glass but I guess a watermark still might have snuck by him. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/135 "2016-04-08T17:09:15Z")
I’m looking at that part of the episode. In Chuck’s house we see that one of the documents is labeled “Real Estate Purchase and Sales Agreement”. In the copy place, if you step through slowly you can see that the address is 1261 Rosella Dr Scottsdale, Arizona. Thinking that either this address or the 1216 address might be some real location I did a search. It appears to be entirely fiction since there doesn’t seem to be a Rosella Drive in Scottsdale. My search did turn up this, on [amc.com](http://amc.com): [http://images.sync.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MVfiles\_2up\_small.pdf](http://images.sync.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/MVfiles_2up_small.pdf) It’s a bunch of documents showing side by side each document before and after the 1261 / 1216 transposition. I assume it’s all of the documents that Jimmy changed. Mesa Verde bank is opening a new branch at 1261 Rosella Dr in Scottsdale. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/136 "2016-04-08T17:11:34Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > He did ask for a very specific quality of paper for the copying and he was going over his changes with a magnifying glass but I guess a watermark still might have snuck by him. He worked there for quite a while, if they used a watermark, I’m guessing he’d know it. > [@btcg](#): > > Pay closer attention: you can hear the power tools after the truck is pulled into the building: drugs are being extracted. That place was some sort of machine/industrial/mechanics/truck shop. That fact that you heard a pneumatic wrench hardly implies that they were disassembling the truck that just pulled in to remove drugs from it. I’m not saying it’s not the case, just saying that it’s a leap. I hear those guns all the time at service stations, doesn’t mean they’re removing the tires (or even drugs) from the last car I saw pull in. The have drills, they use drills. Though I have to say I don’t remember hearing it myself, I just recall the door closing and Hector standing outside smoking. ---
**Author:** ![scoots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@scoots](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scoots)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/137 "2016-04-08T21:22:06Z")
Mike gives a small laugh to himself when the drills start. I think it’s definitely signalling that the truck was being disassembled to get at the drugs. I was wondering whether they might take BCS to the start of BB and then jump ahead to Gene’s story (since we all know what happened during the BB period). That would be quite good because then they could reintroduce a lot of the characters who survived BB eg Jesse. And BCS could then almost become a continuation of BB ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/138 "2016-04-08T22:19:35Z")
> [@scoots](#): > > I was wondering whether they might take BCS to the start of BB and then jump ahead to Gene’s story (since we all know what happened during the BB period). That would be quite good because then they could reintroduce a lot of the characters who survived BB eg Jesse. And BCS could then almost become a continuation of BB But we don’t all know. If they want this to be a stand alone series they can’t do anything like that without a couple of BCS episodes that gets everyone caught up as needed on BB. Also, imho I don’t think it would be that cool to draw this series out that long and make it a continuation of BB. Maybe they could finish it with Gene somehow breaking bad at the Cinnabon but no way reintroduce BB characters. ---
**Author:** ![DrForrester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8edcca/32.png) [@DrForrester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrForrester)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/139 "2016-04-09T00:47:11Z")
I speculated about Gene’s future back [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18456484&postcount=136). The scene we got this season of Gene being locked in a room with the trash bins showed just how far he’d fallen. He waited for hours to be released rather than walk out a door that would’ve set off an alarm. Can you imagine Jimmy or Saul hesitating for a second? If you’ll forgive an old hippie, some Bob Dylan lyrics come to mind. The whole thing is [here](http://bobdylan.com/songs/shelter-storm/), but the most important part is the first few lines. Twas in another lifetime, one of toil and blood When blackness was a virtue and the road was full of mud I came in from the wilderness, a creature void of form “Come in,” she said, “I’ll give you shelter from the storm" She, of course, being Kim Wexler. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208/140 "2016-04-09T05:44:54Z")
Non-compete clauses are strictly forbidden in the legal profession. The idea is that the client has an absolute right to hire an attorney of his or her choice. If Mesa Verde wants the services of Kim Wexler, it would be unethical for HHM to deny them their preferred choice of counsel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-2-08-fifi-4-4-16/751208.md?page=8)