# Better Call Saul Episodes 1 and 2

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 7, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074 "2015-02-07T23:03:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/21 "2015-02-08T20:32:58Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Go you youtube and search “bob odenkirk stand up” and you’ll find a few clips going back to the 90’s of him doing stand up. Maybe not his normal job, but it’s probably how he broke into the business.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> He did stand-up in his early days and was good friends with Jon Stewart during that time; I don’t think he was at all successful at it and moved to writing material for other comics. They reminisced about it on a very recent Daily Show.

I was careful to say “As far as I know.” I’m not shocked to find out he’s done stand-up; thanks for adding to my knowledge.

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**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/22 "2015-02-08T21:54:24Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> I’ve never seen an episode of _Breaking Bad_. Will it be possible to understand this new series without having watched the first series?

If you’ve never seen _Breaking Bad_ it shouldn’t matter, since (as many have noted above) the series is a prequel and is designed to stand on its own.

That said, I believe that the pilot episode begins in the present day and introduces the series in flashback (kind of like HIMYM except that it is not told from the perspective of the future narrator and, beyond tonight’s episode, they don’t continually flash forward to him telling his story – OK, that’s nothing like HIMYM).

Anyway, this means that, for those watching BB currently, or who plan on watching in the future, the opening segment tonight at least partially reveals Saul’s fate after the events of BB.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/23 "2015-02-08T22:14:26Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I forgot how Mike and Saul “met” on BB. I might be wrong, but the first time I remember them in the same scene, it seemed as though they had skipped filming any introduction. Does anyone remember the episode of their “first” encounter? Could they have told Walter and Jesse that they’ve already been acquainted?

Mike first appears as a “cleaner” and an investigator working for Saul. It’s only later that we find out his main job is as Gus Fring’s right-hand man.

Mike first appears when he is sent to Jesse’s house to get rid of incriminating evidence after Jane’s death. Later Saul sends him to investigate Skyler.

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**Author:** ![jrepka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee59a6/32.png) [@jrepka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jrepka)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/24 "2015-02-09T01:23:36Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Odenkirk said on T_he Daily Show_ that Sunday is a one-off; it will air regularly on Monday evenings.

[Interesting article](http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/10/why-sunday-night-television-is-so-good/381331/) in the Atlantic from last October.

Sundays have become saturated with critically-acclaimed shows from basic and premium cable networks (it probably started with _The Sopranos_ in '99). Networks have come to worry that a show premiering on another night of the week will be regarded by viewers with suspicion.

HBO and Showtime have stuck with Sunday nights pretty strictly, with HBO even putting their best comedies on Sundays. AMC originally aired _Mad Men_ on Thursdays, and moved it in the 2nd season. FX appears to be the only basic cable network that bucks the trend, airing _Fargo_ on Tuesdays its first season, and keeping _The Americans_ on Wednesday nights.

For _Better Call Saul_, a Sunday night premier means that it has a lead-in (_The Walking Dead_) that will probably get 12-15 million viewers. Those who don’t click away, presuming episode 1 interests them, will get episode 2 on the next night. It might be a good strategy – Monday nights have the second largest number of viewers, after Sundays.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/25 "2015-02-09T01:28:21Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> I know I had the hardest time following _Mork and Mindy_ until I binge watched all of _Happy Days_- only then did _Mork and Mindy_ make sense.

that’s a joke, right? Please tell me that’s a joke.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/26 "2015-02-09T02:26:01Z")

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I just saw a commercial for Battle Creek. It doesn’t have anything to do with BCS or BB, but when BB was over Vince talked about doing a 'cop show in Battle Creek and that was really all he said about it…guess I have another show to watch now.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/27 "2015-02-09T04:26:11Z")

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Tuco!

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/28 "2015-02-09T04:27:45Z")

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That was a bit slower of a start than I was expecting. It seems like they are picking up the pace though. I’ll give it another day.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/29 "2015-02-09T04:53:55Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Tuco!

I yelled YES and started laughing when that happened. They really played us. Revealing that Mike would be in the show. Rumors (apparently confirmed) about Jesse. Wild unfounded rumors about Walt. Speculations about Gus (which I suppose could still happen); but I don’t think anyone anywhere suggested Tuco and the possibility never crossed my mind.

In BB, did Saul ever say anything about a delusional brother? There’s something like that in the back of my mind, but it may be my imagination.

About the beginning, I didn’t have a clue what was going on, even when I saw the buns and saw the Omaho business license in the window. It wasn’t until I saw the “Cinnabon” sign that I realized. At that point I couldn’t stop laughing.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/30 "2015-02-09T05:00:29Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> …  
> I forgot how Mike and Saul “met” on BB. I might be wrong, but the first time I remember them in the same scene, it seemed as though they had skipped filming any introduction. Does anyone remember the episode of their “first” encounter? Could they have told Walter and Jesse that they’ve already been acquainted?  
> …

How they met was never shown. When Walt and Jesse were looking for a way to sell larger quantities of meth Saul said “I know a guy who knows a guy”, then eventually introduced them to Gus. The impression (at least that I got) was that Mike was the guy he knew who knew Gus. Mike was employed by Gus and apparently also did some work for Saul occasionally.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/31 "2015-02-09T05:03:39Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Odenkirk said on The Daily Show that Sunday is a one-off; it will air regularly on Monday evenings.

Including _this_ Monday 02/09. The second episode is being shown one night after the first.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/32 "2015-02-09T05:19:41Z")

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loved the ink spots opening

reminded me of fallout 3

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/33 "2015-02-09T05:29:36Z")

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Question: Was that nail salon the one he tried to get Jesse to buy?

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**Author:** ![Samantha\_Leigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Samantha\_Leigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Samantha_Leigh)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/34 "2015-02-09T05:57:58Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Question: Was that nail salon the one he tried to get Jesse to buy?

Yes!!

And woot to Tuco!!!

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/35 "2015-02-09T12:49:20Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> I’ve never seen an episode of _Breaking Bad_. Will it be possible to understand this new series without having watched the first series?
> 
> I know I had the hardest time following _Mork and Mindy_ until I binge watched all of _Happy Days_- only then did _Mork and Mindy_ make sense.

> [@amanset](#):
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> that’s a joke, right? Please tell me that’s a joke.

Oh COURSE that’s a joke.

How could bienville have ever understood what the heck was going on in Happy Days without sitting down with all 108 episodes of Love, American Style?

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/36 "2015-02-09T13:30:35Z")

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I had to laugh at the impoverished Saul mixing cheap blended Scotch with Drambuie.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/37 "2015-02-09T13:42:53Z")

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I loved everything about this episode up until the Tuco reveal at the end. It felt a little patronizing.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/38 "2015-02-09T14:05:33Z")

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I loved it. The B&W future scenes at the beginning, showing how Saul ended up after Breaking Bad ended, we got to see Mike, and I thought the Tuco ending was great!

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/39 "2015-02-09T14:07:25Z")

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I thought it was a good start. I loved the opening, it was beautifully shot, with great music. Also, the trial was hilarious. I loved how after Saul had his long remarks, the prosecutor I don’t think said a single word, the video did it all for him. And it looked like people were leaving the courtroom, but it was actually they were moving to get a better look at the terrible video.

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-episodes-1-and-2/712074/40 "2015-02-09T15:24:28Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> I thought it was a good start. I loved the opening, it was beautifully shot, with great music. Also, the trial was hilarious. I loved how after Saul had his long remarks, the prosecutor I don’t think said a single word, the video did it all for him. And it looked like people were leaving the courtroom, but it was actually they were moving to get a better look at the terrible video.

You lost the case!

They had sex with a head!

I totally lost it when he picked up his check.

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