# Better Call Saul (Season 3) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 8, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040 "2017-04-08T04:28:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/41 "2017-04-13T21:01:15Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > I did a search for and found this device, which isn’t quite the same (it’s a GPS device instead of a using a special tracking device) but does give an idea of battery life. It only gets about 60 hours of motion tracking, so about two weeks at 4 hours per day of movement: [http://www.spytechs.com/gps/TracKing.htm](http://www.spytechs.com/gps/TracKing.htm) So I don’t expect that the tracker they’re using usually gets more than a few weeks of life. And they probably don’t get brand new batteries and test them each time, they probably do like most people and buy a big pack of AA batteries at one time and use them as they’re needed, so battery life is variable. And they might not even put fresh batteries in each time, since the ‘low battery’ time is probably pretty long. And they’re probably low-level mooks, so they’re much less attentive than Mike would be. So having a tracker go to ‘low battery’ a few days earlier than you might expect isn’t really that noticeable to them. > > A battery swap on the spot wouldn’t be simple. They need to remove the gas cap, snap it open (making noise), fiddle with the parts to put in new batteries in the dark where they could drop a key piece, snap it all back together with more noise and time, plus a risk of breaking a plastic piece, and then put it back and leave. Replacing the ‘low battery’ tracker with a good one that’s already in a gas cap makes perfect sense because it’s much quieter and quicker swap a single gas cap than to mess around with fiddly, noisy parts, your chance of getting caught or breaking something and exposing the operation is so much less. > > Yeah, they’re incautious, but they’re not hilariously incompetent. To be clear, the real device you linked does not broadcast any signals. It simply keeps track of where it’s been and you have to have physical access to it to get any data from it. The fake device on the show could never broadcast any useful signal at any significant distance for any reasonable length of time while being powered by a single AA battery. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/42 "2017-04-13T23:14:46Z")
I like how the Vet guy truly cares about what happened to the pup, reminds me of the speech Mike gave to the Baseball cards guy. You can be a good person or a bad person, and you can be a criminal or be legit - the one doesn’t have anything to do with the other. Vet guy is a criminal, but he’s also a caring guy. OR maybe he was fishing for information. Maybe Vet guy is tied in with Gus, and if Mike is clever and determined enough to figure out the gas cap tracker thing, and turn it around on Gus, he might be someone the nether world would like to hire. Last season when Nacho kept standing in front of Hector, blocking Mike’s shot, I thought Nacho left the “Don’t” note on Mike’s car. But now I think it was Gus. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/43 "2017-04-14T00:40:52Z")
> [@soonerblue](#): > > I like how the Vet guy truly cares about what happened to the pup, Ah, right I was going to ask - What puppy? I don’t remember a dog…? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/44 "2017-04-14T01:09:19Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Ah, right I was going to ask - What puppy? I don’t remember a dog…? The dog Mike got for his granddaughter ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/45 "2017-04-14T01:11:18Z")
> [@Richard\_John\_Marcej](#): > > I’m wondering if there’ll be some climactic clash between Chuck & Jimmy that may accidentally cause the death of Chuck. With that, it’ll be too much for Kim to accept and she’ll leave Jimmy and the combination of the loss of his brother and Kim will turn Jimmy into Saul I honestly was kinda hoping this is what would’ve happened last season… Chuck would’ve died from his hit to the head in the copy place, Jimmy’s relationship with Kim breaks down and he’s left alone and decides to become a shifty defense lawyer to fight ‘the man’. Because I like this series a lot, but I definitely want more Saul Goodman, shifty defense attorney. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/46 "2017-04-14T01:28:25Z")
> [@cormac262](#): > > This is what I assumed. Hence the tools (I doubt the junkyard would loan tools). So I figured he went home, dropped off the rifle, and then picked up the tools. Mike definitely stopped off before heading to the junkyard. He’s wearing different clothes (tactical pants in the desert, blue jeans at the yard). And the tools weren’t his. The sign at the yard said, “SELF-SERVE WE RENT TOOLS” And the tool box has “Property of Five J’s” painted in white on top. ---
**Author:** ![DrForrester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8edcca/32.png) [@DrForrester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrForrester)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/47 "2017-04-14T03:58:24Z")
Mike had a dog early on, so he would have an excuse to visit the vet during office hours. He gave it to his granddaughter. If you check out the sneak peek of next week’s episode on the AMC web site, it follows the “gas cap” plot line up the food chain a little. It’s a bit of a head scratcher… really looking forward to seeing it play out. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/48 "2017-04-14T04:26:11Z")
> [@LVBoPeep](#): > > IANAL either but I would assume it’s exactly because of the Mesa Verde type thing- in many industries dependent on regular clients, there is a worry that allowing the person to stay on gives them too much access to client information. Granted, they could have gathered that before hand but it does lessen the time for someone to take the clients with whom they have a relationship with them. I imagine the clients here very strictly belong to the firm and not any individual lawyer. > > Case in point, I worked for a vet that employed a groomer with the understanding that the clients were the hospital’s clients and not her clients. She was allowed to stay on through her notice which gave her the time to copy each client’s card. She left the cards but took many of the clients with her to the new shop. Of course, not the same level of lawyer and it’s debateable if she was really in the wrong, but it was a concern and justifiably so. IAAL. Generally (and I have no reason to believe that New Mexico is different) there is no property in a client, the client belongs to neither the firm no individual lawyers. If a lawyer who is dealing with a case leaves, s/he is required to tell the client that s/he can join the lawyer if they want or stay if they want. Generally, there is a non-solicit agreement, whereby the departing Counsel agrees not to solicit clients for a period of typically a year or two however if the client wishes to come with them, there is nothing the firm can do. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/49 "2017-04-14T05:52:40Z")
So what are the typical arrangements for leaving? Do you need to give notice? ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/50 "2017-04-18T12:52:09Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > So, whatever Chuck’s plans are for that tape, it appears he wants Jimmy to find out about it by way of Ernesto. To me that smug, confident flip of the tongs after the incident with Ernesto says he was happy with the way it all went according to plan. > > Is he hoping to catch Jimmy breaking in to destroy the evidence? Good call. When Kim was wondering what Chuck’s plan was, I kept hoping Jimmy would figure it out. Also, Jimmy was a pretty bad covert surveillance operative. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/51 "2017-04-18T13:21:25Z")
I can understand Jimmy being angry, but kicking his way into Chuck’s house struck me as an overreaction. I could see Jimmy deciding he’s going to go with the “I lied about changing the address - I just told you what you wanted to hear to try to calm your paranoid delusions. You hear me, everybody? My brother Chuck has paranoid delusions.” Since Jimmy already knows Chuck is capable of making recordings, it seems doubly odd that he’d act in a way which, if recorded, would only make things worse for himself. Jimmy previously struck me as too smart and too responsive to his own sense of self-preservation to fall for such a blatant con. Heck, he even says at one point “Did you make copies?”, and seemed to have convinced himself that if copies existed, they’d be in the house (and burning the house down would destroy them), but making copies of a tape requires more than just one tape recorder, so _if_ Chuck had copies, he’d either have used two machines or an elaborate machine (unlikely) or enlisted the aid of someone else (which means the secret’s out, regardless). Maybe this will turn out to be an elaborate con of Jimmy’s and he has some preplanned escape route, i.e. he’ll use evidence of Chuck’s mental illness as a basis of his own claim of diminished capacity: “it runs in our family and I was stressed by trying to care for my older brother despite my own mental issues, hence my outburst”. And in the meantime, Mike and Gus are playing the world’s slowest chess match. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/52 "2017-04-18T15:44:44Z")
> [@JeffB](#): > > Also, Jimmy was a pretty bad covert surveillance operative. No kidding… Gus did almost everything but hit him over the head with his broom and he still wouldn’t break his stare at the bag. Gus must have had some simple way to notify the drop was scrubbed. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/53 "2017-04-18T16:23:28Z")
I wonder just how much trouble Jimmy can really get into. Shortly before, he was acting as his brother’s medical power of attorney, authorizing an MRI scan on him over Chuck’s objections. Certainly he can plead that he was worried about his brother’s mental state, and that’s why he forced entry. Painting Chuck as incompetent is an easy argument to make, and would undermine Chuck’s allegations against Jimmy. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/54 "2017-04-18T17:31:13Z")
I think Chuck is Jimmy’s weak spot. Slippin’ Jimmy is a fantastic con artist, but he’s unable to turn the full powers of his cynicism and exploitation on his own brother. I’m normally OK with the show’s slow pacing, but I thought there was a fair bit more of Mike-follows-a-guy-around than we really needed to see. But every other part of the episode was fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/55 "2017-04-18T17:52:03Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I can understand Jimmy being angry, but kicking his way into Chuck’s house struck me as an overreaction. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I think Chuck is Jimmy’s weak spot. Slippin’ Jimmy is a fantastic con artist, but he’s unable to turn the full powers of his cynicism and exploitation on his own brother. Yep. I totally bought Jimmy’s freak out. Jimmy loves his brother and put him on a pedestal, even when he knew better. The betrayals have just been mounting and mounting and I get why this one would be the final straw. It’s interesting that Chuck correctly predicted Jimmy coming for the tape, but for all the wrong reasons. He doesn’t really get his brother at all. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/56 "2017-04-18T18:04:18Z")
That episode was like watching paint dry in slow motion. I walked out on it. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/57 "2017-04-18T19:00:46Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > I wonder just how much trouble Jimmy can really get into. Shortly before, he was acting as his brother’s medical power of attorney, authorizing an MRI scan on him over Chuck’s objections. Certainly he can plead that he was worried about his brother’s mental state, and that’s why he forced entry. Painting Chuck as incompetent is an easy argument to make, and would undermine Chuck’s allegations against Jimmy. Maybe that could’ve worked if there weren’t witnesses. Going to jail can’t bode well for his practice, but would that mean automatic disbarment? I can’t imagine that would happen, since he eventually becomes Saul Goodman. I’ll bet Chuck is counting on Jimmy getting disbarred, but not that he’ll change his entire identity. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/58 "2017-04-18T19:57:05Z")
> [@JeffB](#): > > Also, Jimmy was a pretty bad covert surveillance operative. That bothered me. The writers have established that Jimmy was a skilled con artist–something that requires being a master of deception and observation. Would such a person be so ridiculously obvious in his ‘spying’? He was painfully conspicuous. On the other hand, Jimmy’s reaction to learning (from Kim) that his brother hates him _that much_—enough to have overcome a pathological aversion to electrical devices, by operating a tape recorder—was very well-written (and acted). You could see Jimmy take it as an almost physical blow. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/59 "2017-04-18T20:24:06Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > That bothered me. The writers have established that Jimmy was a skilled con artist–something that requires being a master of deception and observation. Would such a person be so ridiculously obvious in his ‘spying’? He was painfully conspicuous. He was overly eager to make a good impression on Mike. It made him nervous and careless. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040/60 "2017-04-19T01:53:25Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > That episode was like watching paint dry in slow motion. I walked out on it. You should Google “How to work a TV remote.” No one should have to suffer the indignity of being forced to watch a TV show they don’t like. You seem to have this problem a lot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-3/784040.md?page=4)