# Better Call Saul season 5 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 24, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428 "2020-02-24T11:43:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/161 "2020-03-20T17:56:30Z")
Ron Silver. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/162 "2020-03-20T18:10:52Z")
I’ve been staying home of late, socially distant and all, and enjoying my trial Netflix subscription which I might decide to keep if civilization is still a thing next month, and just rewatched Season 2, Episode 2, “Cobbler”. Jimmy has made up a truly ridiculous story on behalf of an idiot client and to really sell it, had the guy film a “squat cobbler” fetish video. Kim thinks the idea is hilarious, but is a bit shocked at Jimmy taking that extra step, describing it as “fabricated evidence”, especially dangerous since Jimmy has just started working at the reputable law firm, Davis and Main. Kim: Why would you risk the best job you’ve ever had for some pro bono case? Yeah, Kim, why would \*anybody \*do that? ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/163 "2020-03-20T18:47:21Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > The guy who plays Schweikart, by the way - [Dennis Boutsikaris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Boutsikaris) - from the moment I saw him on the show, and ever since, I could SWEAR I’ve seen him in other things, yet I looked over his full list of credits and I _haven’t_ seen _any_ of them. So I think it’s that he reminds me strongly of another actor. But who? Chris Sarandon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/164 "2020-03-20T19:13:53Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Ron Silver. Yeah - I thought the same. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/165 "2020-03-20T20:16:33Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > The guy who plays Schweikart, by the way - [Dennis Boutsikaris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Boutsikaris) - from the moment I saw him on the show, and ever since, I could SWEAR I’ve seen him in other things, yet I looked over his full list of credits and I _haven’t_ seen _any_ of them. So I think it’s that he reminds me strongly of another actor. But who? As others have said, probably Ron Silver. I asked a similar question, but in reverse, a couple of seasons ago. Basically, “I know that’s not Ron Silver, because he’s dead, but who the heck is he?” Funny, once I knew his name I started noticing him all over the place. ---
**Author:** ![Labdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Labdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labdad)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/166 "2020-03-21T03:33:24Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > The guy who plays Schweikart, by the way - [Dennis Boutsikaris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Boutsikaris) - from the moment I saw him on the show, and ever since, I could SWEAR I’ve seen him in other things, yet I looked over his full list of credits and I _haven’t_ seen _any_ of them. So I think it’s that he reminds me strongly of another actor. But who? Law & Order. The first time I saw him in BCS I recognized him as defense counsel from several old episodes. I was watching a rerun the other night, and saw him again. Sure enough, he’d been in seven episodes of the original series, and a buttload of other stuff, too. > **[Dennis Boutsikaris | Actor](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0100381/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1)** > > Known for: Better Call Saul, \*batteries not included, The Bourne Legacy ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/167 "2020-03-21T07:51:26Z")
[https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200321/561685c8210c417b2e6613c102618d65.jpg](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200321/561685c8210c417b2e6613c102618d65.jpg) Dennis, Chris, Ron ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/168 "2020-03-24T10:19:42Z")
Well. That episode ending, huh? Not expecting that. I find Kim so hard to read. Also…glad the Navajo photographer gets a settlement. That was a pretty reasonable amount too, all things considered - I rather think Jimmy could have gouged Kevin for more than $200,000 And what in hell is going on with the continued harassment of Howard? There has to be a point, but I’m stuffed if I can figure out what it is ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/169 "2020-03-24T12:00:02Z")
If they keep on like they are, Kim could get in a lot of trouble. If they are married, she can’t be forced to testify against him. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/170 "2020-03-24T12:03:47Z")
Kim is a highly conflicted woman. But from what I’ve observed of human behavior, I find her response really quite plausible, in retrospect. The Mrs. and I LOL’ed at last night’s ending. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/171 "2020-03-24T17:22:27Z")
The saguaro in the Mesa Verde logo is a bit out of place. It’s just not something that says local bank. But ignoring that, it’s more likely that an Apache took that photo than a Navajo. Not impossible though, but Gilligan is usually pretty good on details. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/172 "2020-03-24T18:05:43Z")
I’d’a thought one of the first things the lawyers at Mesa Verde would think of is to take Jimmy’s DVD to the New Mexico Bar Association. The fact that he brought his “commercial” to a meeting about an unrelated matter screams blackmail, a word Kim herself used. Given Jimmy’s record, I can’t imagine they’d let that pass. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/173 "2020-03-25T00:39:49Z")
There was talk from critics about last episode being one of the best of the series. I liked that one just fine, but I thought that was a bit hyperbolic. This one, however, blew me away. The ending obviously had a lot of impact and lingers due to recency bias, but there were so many other strong moments: –The teaser, with the young Kim who so uncannily resembled the adult version we know and love –The prank on Howard with the prostitutes –The cinematography of the meeting scene between Nacho, Mike, and Gus –Saul’s directing of the commercials, with all the hilarious notes about showing emotion, but not overselling it, back and forth ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/174 "2020-03-25T04:06:40Z")
I do not understand, even a little, Kim asking to get married. Is she traumatized by a relationship with her mom and decided to never give up again? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/175 "2020-03-25T04:33:51Z")
That might have something to do with it. Or maybe being immune from having to testify against each other? ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/176 "2020-03-25T06:40:15Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Kim is a highly conflicted woman. > > But from what I’ve observed of human behavior, I find her response really quite plausible, in retrospect. > > The Mrs. and I LOL’ed at last night’s ending. I wonder if she actually knew, before the words were out of her mouth, that she was going to say that. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/177 "2020-03-25T09:49:36Z")
I thought that Jimmy’s move (duping Kim) was actually brilliant and, in the end, in her best interest. She should have recognized that. Her ego and hurt feelings got in the way of acknowledging that he did not pull that particular monkeyshine to harm her but to protect her. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/178 "2020-03-25T11:39:07Z")
What wasn’t clear to me was how Kim and/or Jimmy recognized the photo, or figured out the name of the photographer. Was it supposed to be a well-known image? ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/179 "2020-03-25T11:41:28Z")
> [@Mean Mr Mustard](#): > > Her ego and hurt feelings got in the way of acknowledging that he did not pull that particular monkeyshine to harm her but to protect her. Did he, though? I mean, I’m sure, 100% that he wouldn’t have gone through with it if he thought it would do her harm long-term. But isn’t ‘I did it to protect you’ really just his after-the-fact rationalisation for ‘I did it because it was _so goddamn awesome_’? I’m not sure what Kim’s relationship to the concept of ‘being safe’ is either. I think it’s the kind of thing she wants to want … but doesn’t \*\*actually \*\*want. So she tries her hardest to keep on the straight and narrow for long stretches at a time, and she tells herself ‘rules are rules’ but she just can’t keep it up all the time - eventually she breaks down and has to do something risky. At some point she’s going to realise she has a serious problem (if she doesn’t already) but will the real crunch come before or after she does something that has her looking at jail time? ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428/180 "2020-03-25T20:20:32Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > The guy who plays Schweikart, by the way - [Dennis Boutsikaris](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Boutsikaris) - from the moment I saw him on the show, and ever since, I could SWEAR I’ve seen him in other things, yet I looked over his full list of credits and I _haven’t_ seen _any_ of them. So I think it’s that he reminds me strongly of another actor. But who? If you haven’t seen Dream Team (Dennis as a doctor to a group of psych ward patients loose in NYC (Michael Keaton, Christopher Lloyd, Peter Boyle & Stephen Furst 1989), I recommend it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-5-spoilers/848428.md?page=10)