# Better Call Saul season 6 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [April 19, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063 "2022-04-19T17:04:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1483 "2022-08-16T16:44:52Z")
Saul’s capture was certainly national news. I wonder if Kim’s name came up in the stories. Do her Florida friends know about her past? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1484 "2022-08-16T16:48:47Z")
I imagine an in-depth Dateline type piece might mention her, but I doubt any other news story would. They were divorced before all the Walter White stuff started, and she’s not implicated in any of his crimes. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1485 "2022-08-16T17:13:55Z")
My only disappointment? Marie’s scenes were in b&w, so I couldn’t see how much purple she still had in her life. ---
**Author:** ![de\_Worde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@de\_Worde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/de_Worde)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1486 "2022-08-16T17:28:07Z")
I wonder if demanding the North Carolina prison and saying how bad he knew ADX Montrose to be wasn’t a kind of “don’t throw me into that briar patch” ploy. Because he knew he’d be a rock star among the kind of inmates housed at Montrose. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1487 "2022-08-16T17:34:14Z")
No. He really wanted the NC prison where he would also have been a rock star. He was sent to Montrose after he changed his mind and spilled his guts. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1488 "2022-08-16T18:04:09Z")
> [@de\_Worde](#): > > I wonder if demanding the North Carolina prison and saying how bad he knew ADX Montrose to be wasn’t a kind of “don’t throw me into that briar patch” ploy. No. The plea agreement was rock solid, and only changed after he made that demand. And being a celebrity at ADX was a surprise to him - he was pretty adamant about being “McGill” to the convict in front of him. ---
**Author:** ![McDeath\_the\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McDeath_the_Mad)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1489 "2022-08-16T18:11:29Z")
I was hoping she might throw her hair into a quick pony when she started filing! MtM ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1490 "2022-08-16T19:29:16Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Is he giving her up re: Mesa Verde? That leads to another question though - did Kim come clean about/to Mesa Verde? She did some highly unethical stuff both for and against them, while they were her client. Or does she think resigning from being a lawyer was sufficient penance for that? ---
**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1491 "2022-08-16T19:29:44Z")
Honestly, after following the series avidly for 6 years, I was a little disappointed. I don’t get what drove him to give up his cushy deal. Was it the news that Kim was going to get sued into oblivion? Because I imagine that’ll still happen regardless. Saul wasn’t a costume Jimmy could take on and off. Saul was who he’d _become_. That was the point of the show. Why would this guy, this absolute epitome of selfishness, give up a such a good deal? It’s certainly not _impossible_. Everyone loves a good redemption story. But the episode was missing the sort of game-changing inciting incident that would make his change of heart plausible. Did he do it because he wanted Kim’s respect? Why? The guy who helped Walter White launder millions in drug money, suggested Walt “Send Hank to Belize”, looked the other way as Walt got into bed with Nazis and dissolved Drew Sharp in acid, and gave serious thought to strangling a wheelchair-bound pensioner, wouldn’t care enough about that to sacrifice the last three decades of his life for it. _Old_ Jimmy would’ve done, sure. But not Saul. What made Jimmy kill Saul? I dunno. I think I was hoping for one last great scheme. Something that’d redeem him _and_ get him off the hook. I was probably hoping for the impossible. Still, I didn’t find what I got very satisfying. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1492 "2022-08-16T19:44:49Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > Honestly, after following the series avidly for 6 years, I was a little disappointed. I don’t get what drove him to give up his cushy deal. He made the deal in the first place to prove that he could. That he still had the skills and charisma that made him Saul for so many years. Then he gave up the deal to prove to himself and Kim that he wasn’t Saul anymore.That’s why he walked into court as Saul Goodman, and left it insisting he was Jimmy McGill. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1493 "2022-08-16T19:57:58Z")
_James_ McGill. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1494 "2022-08-16T20:27:30Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > I dunno. I think I was hoping for one last great scheme. Something that’d redeem him _and_ get him off the hook. There isn’t a scheme for redemption - Saul found that out when he heard that Kim confessed knowing full well it opened her up to being sued into oblivion. You can’t become the good person you want to be by lying and scheming your way into it. I think it’s interesting that Walt’s moment of regret was also all about money, when you boil it down. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1495 "2022-08-16T20:49:50Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > What made Jimmy kill Saul? I think at least part of it was when he realized he was ready to strangle Marion with a telephone cord. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1496 "2022-08-16T20:51:42Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > > [@WalterBishop](#): > > > > What made Jimmy kill Saul? > > I think at least part of it was when he realized he was ready to strangle Marion with a telephone cord That was Gene. ---
**Author:** ![de\_Worde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@de\_Worde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/de_Worde)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1497 "2022-08-16T20:53:18Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I think it’s interesting that Walt’s moment of regret was also all about money, when you boil it down. True. But if he’d been part of building Gray Matter into a billion dollar company he wouldn’t have had to start making meth. Plus, he’d have enjoyed that and been good at that in the way he enjoyed and was good at being Heisenberg. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1498 "2022-08-16T20:59:18Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > That was Gene. You can’t take it that literally. It’s not like he has Dissociative Identity Disorder. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1499 "2022-08-16T21:00:12Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > What made Jimmy kill Saul? What would Saul do after 7 years in NC? He’d be barred from ever practicing law in any state. He has no friends. Kim wants nothing to do with him. I think being Gene showed Jimmy that if he could be Saul again, it’d be just as lonely as that Cinnabon manager life. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1500 "2022-08-16T21:00:32Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > That was Gene. She was only afraid of him because she identified him as Saul. So wouldn’t he have “been” Saul in that moment? ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1501 "2022-08-16T21:13:00Z")
> [@WalterBishop](#): > > I don’t get what drove him to give up his cushy deal. Was it the news that Kim was going to get sued into oblivion? It was the news that Kim had gone to Albuquerque and confessed after he had angrily railed at her on the phone about her hypocrisy in not turning herself in when she told him he should turn himself in. After he yelled at her in a moment of pain, self-righteousness and loneliness and probably not at all seriously, she had gone and done exactly what he had taunted her with. That, plus hearing that she was probably going to take the hit in a civil suit. Nothing Saul/Jimmy could say would save her from that - she was going to get sued and lose regardless. But Kim was willing to directly face up to those consequences. In the end the Jimmy-that-was/could-have-been (who remember had only been dormant for ~6 years at that point) couldn’t bring himself to do any less. Especially if he ever wanted an iota of respect again from Kim, the only great love of his life. Saul had to die - Breaking Bad in reverse. It was perfectly logical and emotionally very satisfying to me at least. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063/1502 "2022-08-16T22:14:54Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > How much can Kim contribute to the legal aid organization? She hasn’t been charged with anything, but would her confession/statement prevent her from getting a law license in Florida? She can’t give legal advice directly to clients, but can she help the lawyers with strategy advice and paperwork? Basically do lawyerly work funnelled through a licensed attorney? Unclear, except that someone as smart, knowledgeable and driven as Kim is going to be able to do an enormous amount of good, regardless of whether she herself an practice law. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-6/963063.md?page=76)