# Better Call Saul: Season IV **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 30, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792 "2018-07-30T04:48:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/81 "2018-08-11T15:23:05Z")
He probably filed one last lawsuit to fuck with his detractors. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/82 "2018-08-11T23:24:34Z")
Considering Chuck was partners in a law firm, isn’t reasonable to assume that the firm would insist all partners have a will on file in order to protect their interests? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/83 "2018-08-11T23:34:50Z")
> [@dorvann](#): > > Considering Chuck was partners in a law firm, isn’t reasonable to assume that the firm would insist all partners have a will on file in order to protect their interests? He wasn’t at the time of his death. But he was way too organized to not have a will. Either everything will go to his ex-wife or it will end up somehow being a huge fuck you to Jimmy and Hamlin. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/84 "2018-08-11T23:37:54Z")
> [@Knada](#): > > Kim. I believe Chuck may well have left his estate to Kim. I think Chuck respected Kim’s work ethic and was perhaps a bit secretly in love with Kim. I can just see the smug smile on Chuck’s face as he imagined Jimmy, Howard, and Rebecca’s reactions. I can’t imagine a worse scenario for the Jimmy/Kim relationship. > > I think Chuck’s choice of executor could be a bit of fun too. > > (a somewhat nervous first post in SDMB) Welcome. 🙂 I like it, but it calls to mind a small problem. Doesn’t Jimmy need to get married and divorced before he meets Walt? It seems like we’re moving quickly into the _Breaking Bad_ years. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/85 "2018-08-11T23:44:06Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Welcome. 🙂 > > I like it, but it calls to mind a small problem. Doesn’t Jimmy need to get married and divorced before he meets Walt? It seems like we’re moving quickly into the _Breaking Bad_ years. I thought he was already divorced? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/86 "2018-08-12T01:14:29Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I thought he was already divorced? Yes, I think the target of the “Chicago sunroof” was the guy his wife had an affair with. ---
**Author:** ![betterlifethroughchemistry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/betterlifethroughchemistry/32/3094_2.png) [@betterlifethroughchemistry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betterlifethroughchemistry)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/87 "2018-08-12T02:07:29Z")
> [@Knada](#): > > Kim. I believe Chuck may well have left his estate to Kim. I think Chuck respected Kim’s work ethic and was perhaps a bit secretly in love with Kim. I can just see the smug smile on Chuck’s face as he imagined Jimmy, Howard, and Rebecca’s reactions. I can’t imagine a worse scenario for the Jimmy/Kim relationship. > > I think Chuck’s choice of executor could be a bit of fun too. > > (a somewhat nervous first post in SDMB) Welcome! 😃 An interesting twist would be for Jimmy to be named executor and would have to read out loud that Chuck left all of his money to anyone not named Jimmy McGill…Chuck is a consummate asshole, and that would be completely in character for him…yes, I know, the reading of the will would be unnecessarily melodramatic, so maybe Jimmy is just handed a copy…or better yet, Howard tells him… ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/88 "2018-08-12T07:29:13Z")
> [@cormac262](#): > > . . . > But he’s sitting on a bench, across the street that is facing AWAY from the street (his back is to Chuck’s house). Like the opposite of a bus bench. > . . . The same was true of the one Gene sat on after noping out of the taxi; it struck me as odd then. So when this one came up I thought “Really? Another one?” > [@DrCube](#): > > Chuck had a lot of hubris. I think it’s possible he thought he would never die, or at least not any time soon. Accomplished lawyer that he was, he couldn’t foresee how his severe allergy to electricity would handicap his firm and force him to retire. > > And Chuck was always doing highly prestigious work with large corporations and banks. Jimmy was the “Grandma’s last will and testament” kind of lawyer. I’m sure if Chuck _had_ a will it wouldn’t include Jimmy. But I think it’s within the realm of possibility that he never felt he needed one. I feel certain that his will was set up during his marriage to leave everything to Rebecca. Chuck would not have changed it. He only had Jimmy and Rebecca, and he didn’t like Jimmy. Still, Rebecca will probably split it with Jimmy. I’m betting that’s what paid for the legal office with the fake columns and the return of his devoted receptionist who we see again in BB. Jimmy/Saul would see it as enormously satisfying to spend Chuck’s money on the tackiest law office possible. Also, somebody mentioned insurance for the fire. I don’t think there would be any payout on that. The fire was clearly negligence if not full out arson. There will be an applicable exception in the policy. Going back to the beginning when Jimmy was paying the bills for Chuck, did he mention a mortgage? I wonder if the property will just revert to bank ownership? ---
**Author:** ![Tread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Tread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tread)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/89 "2018-08-12T17:17:44Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > I don’t think he actually feels that peppy about being the cause of what pushed Chuck over the edge. > > . I wonder if his remorse, and being reminded every time he mentions his name in ABQ, and gets asked were you related to Charles McGill?.. what a terrible thing. Will be one of the catalyst of the upcoming name change ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/90 "2018-08-12T17:50:41Z")
Could the will leave him money with the stipulation that he can’t practice law with the McGill name? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/91 "2018-08-12T19:45:39Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I hope the comment about you not getting to watch the show bc your husband controls the remote was a bit of hyperbole though… I was hoping the same! Apparently in vain. :eek: > [@Pantastic](#): > > Interesting comment from the “Chuck Retrospective” is that he was originally going to be a weak character, who was basically helpless without Jimmy. Him being as manipulative, prideful, and strong-willed as he ended up is entirely due to Micheal McKean’s acting. And Howard was intended to be every bit the douchey villain he seemed. Despite how much I love this show (it’s the best currently airing on TV IMO), I do feel that retcon was a little too abrupt and blatant, and I liked the scenario we were shown in the early episodes and wish it would have continued. At the same time, I did find the episode with Jimmy’s disbarment hearing to be riveting, so I guess I contain multitudes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/92 "2018-08-12T20:23:21Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > Still, Rebecca will probably split it with Jimmy. I’m betting that’s what paid for the legal office with the fake columns and the return of his devoted receptionist who we see again in BB. Jimmy/Saul would see it as enormously satisfying to spend Chuck’s money on the tackiest law office possible. Jimmy is already set up to get $1.6 million or more from the Sandpiper payout, it’s just going to take time. I predict that is what buys the gaudy office, it’s not impossible for him to get Chuck’s money but I think it’s more likely that there’s a legal fight over it that he loses. > [@](#): > > Going back to the beginning when Jimmy was paying the bills for Chuck, did he mention a mortgage? I wonder if the property will just revert to bank ownership? Unless there’s a huge issue that’s never been mentioned on the show, Chuck’s estate should have more than enough money to pay off the mortgage. Remember that Howard was paying him something like $8 million dollars to buy him out of HHM, that’s way more than the house would be worth. Money from an estate generally goes to settle debts before going to inheritors, and a bank would much rather get cash than a foreclosed property in general - and ESPECIALLY if there isn’t a house, but just the burned-out remnants of one. > [@BlankSlate](#): > > I like it, but it calls to mind a small problem. Doesn’t Jimmy need to get married and divorced before he meets Walt? It seems like we’re moving quickly into the _Breaking Bad_ years. Already been done. She hasn’t appeared on the show, and probably won’t, but she played a major role in the development of the show. Jimmy told us that was married to a woman back when he lived in Cicero. She cheated on him with a guy who drove a fancy car, when Jimmy found out he gave the guy a “Chicago Sunroof” without realizing the guy had left kids in the back seat. We saw in a flashback that he got charged with some kind of child sex crime, Chuck got him out of the charges on condition that he move to New Mexico and work a legit job at HHM, and in another flashback we saw Jimmy goodbye to Marco as he’s leaving the area and his ‘Slippin Jimmy’ life. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/93 "2018-08-12T20:37:21Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > Jimmy is already set up to get $1.6 million or more from the Sandpiper payout, it’s just going to take time. I predict that is what buys the gaudy office, it’s not impossible for him to get Chuck’s money but I think it’s more likely that there’s a legal fight over it that he loses. … I think so, too. By the necessity imposed by the _Breaking Bad_ timeline’s inevitable approach, Jimmy has to get heavily involved with criminal defendants soon. And that will be a more plausible plot development if he’s badly broke (as in, the Sandpiper money is years away, he has nothing from Chuck, the classified-ad jobs aren’t working out, and he is desperate). ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/94 "2018-08-12T20:56:50Z")
I’m wondering if he’ll somehow lose out on the Sandpiper money, or maybe somehow incur debt that eats it all up. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/95 "2018-08-12T21:44:44Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > Already been done. She hasn’t appeared on the show, and probably won’t, but she played a major role in the development of the show. Jimmy told us that was married to a woman back when he lived in Cicero. She cheated on him with a guy who drove a fancy car, when Jimmy found out he gave the guy a “Chicago Sunroof” without realizing the guy had left kids in the back seat. We saw in a flashback that he got charged with some kind of child sex crime, Chuck got him out of the charges on condition that he move to New Mexico and work a legit job at HHM, and in another flashback we saw Jimmy goodbye to Marco as he’s leaving the area and his ‘Slippin Jimmy’ life. Ah, thanks. I remember it now. He told the whole story when he was running the bingo game for the old folks. I tried to find a video clip, but instead came across a Saul Goodman quote from _Breaking Bad_: > [@](#): > > I caught my second wife screwing my stepdad. OK? It’s a cruel world, Walt. Grow up. I guess we can chalk that up as ‘Saul being Saul’ instead of taking it literally. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/96 "2018-08-12T23:31:22Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I guess we can chalk that up as ‘Saul being Saul’ instead of taking it literally. I would be fine with that, but it doesn’t seem to be their approach so far. I mean they had Gene _actually_ manage a Cinnabon in Omaha, which is absurd if you think about it (Saul was just making a quip off the cuff, unless you think the vacuum guy already had this job lined up for him somehow AND Saul was stupid enough to tell Walt about it) even if it is undeniably funny as fanservice. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/97 "2018-08-13T13:30:52Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > I think so, too. By the necessity imposed by the _Breaking Bad_ timeline’s inevitable approach, Jimmy has to get heavily involved with criminal defendants soon. And that will be a more plausible plot development if he’s badly broke (as in, the Sandpiper money is years away, he has nothing from Chuck, the classified-ad jobs aren’t working out, and he is desperate). Well, he’s got to spend the rest of the year suspended before he can actually start a law practice. I predict that this season will cover the rest of the non-lawyer year, but it’s possible they could do more than one season in it, the seasons aren’t that long in show time (they’ve generally covered a few months IIRC). I think Jimmy will end up doing under-the-table work for criminals while his license is suspended that leads him into the Saul practice, but they could go a different route. I think that Jimmy getting the Sandpiper money, which lets him start his own practice gaudily decorated like we see in BB, at the same time as his relationship with Kim explodes and he’s left with no one to care about in the world would work really well thematically for the show. Jimmy achieving a hollow triumph and putting on Happy Saul Face would certainly fit what’s happened to him so far. ---
**Author:** ![McDeath\_the\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@McDeath\_the\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/McDeath_the_Mad)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/98 "2018-08-13T16:42:28Z")
Am I the only one who thought that maybe, just maybe the cab driver in the opening was Jessie? We truly have no idea how long Gene has been making cinnamon buns. And once Jessie made his escape we have no idea what he did or where he went. Now the eyes of the driver looked a little haggard, but it’s not like the last few months of Jessie’s life on B.B. were rainbows and unicorns. And that could have been years after what went down in the finale of B.B. (Genes hair looked much thinner on top when he was on the stretcher then I recall in the final season of B.B.). Just a thought… MtM ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/99 "2018-08-13T17:04:10Z")
It’s not Jesse. He wouldn’t have left an obvious clue like the baseball logo visible. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792/100 "2018-08-13T17:30:47Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It’s not Jesse. He wouldn’t have left an obvious clue like the baseball logo visible. Plus the cab driver is listed in IMDb as being played by an actor named Don Harvey. [![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180813/228fbfc96269e3a5a84f1f24c49fcf50.png) ](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180813/228fbfc96269e3a5a84f1f24c49fcf50.png) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/better-call-saul-season-iv/818792.md?page=6)