Better human rights - North Korea, or ancient Rome/Babylon/Egypt/etc.?

[Springtime_for_Spacers]

@Wesley_Clark

When they crucified Jesus, they didn’t send his parents and siblings to be tortured. In North Korea they punish your parents, siblings, kids, grandkids, cousins, etc. Also being crucified for a few hours or days sounds preferable to years in a concentration camp.

Plus in modern society the state has better tools to control people. In ancient times the control wasn’t as powerful just because they couldn’t project power.

I’d say North Korea is worse.

The Romans at times would order the execution of all members of a family, down to the youngest because of the transgressions of one. It was forbidden to execute virgins so the unmarried women would first be raped. Yes, down to the very youngest. Fortunately for the majority of the population this fate was generally reserved for the aristocracy. Those whose families mattered.

[GreenWyvern]

@Springtime_for_Spacers

The Romans at times would order the execution of all members of a family, down to the youngest because of the transgressions of one. It was forbidden to execute virgins so the unmarried women would first be raped. Yes, down to the very youngest. Fortunately for the majority of the population this fate was generally reserved for the aristocracy. Those whose families mattered.

Absolute nonsense. Cite?

[Springtime_for_Spacers]

@GreenWyvern

Absolute nonsense. Cite?

Here’s the death of Junilla, daughter of Sejanus

According to ancient historians, because there was no precedent for the capital punishment of a virgin, Junilla was raped first, with the rope around her neck…

[GreenWyvern]

@Springtime_for_Spacers

Here’s the death of Junilla, daughter of Sejanus

This was a one-off case - the virtual lynching of the most hated man in Rome and his family during a vicious political purge.

It had nothing to do with Roman law, or with standard Roman practice.

[Wesley_Clark]

@Springtime_for_Spacers

The Romans at times would order the execution of all members of a family, down to the youngest because of the transgressions of one. It was forbidden to execute virgins so the unmarried women would first be raped. Yes, down to the very youngest. Fortunately for the majority of the population this fate was generally reserved for the aristocracy. Those whose families mattered.

Fair enough, but it wasn’t a common practice I’d hope. In North Korea that is one of the best tools they use to keep the regime afloat and it seems to apply to everyone.

For the truly important, they extend the family out. I think one major regime figure who left had family members out to the 9th cousin arrested