# Betty Boop is back!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 26, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935 "2017-06-26T20:40:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/1 "2017-06-26T20:40:38Z")

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[In graphic novel format.](https://www.amazon.com/Betty-Boop-Roger-Langridge/dp/1524103187/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498508960&sr=1-1&keywords=betty+boop) Looking through the preview pages, it’s very much in the style of the pre-Code films.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/2 "2017-06-26T20:48:32Z")

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The artist, Gisele Lagace, does one of my favorite webcomics(_Ménage à 3_) and several _Archie_ comics, including the _Archie Meets The Ramones_ one-shot.

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/3 "2017-06-26T21:20:17Z")

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So is she still schtupping a dog or is she being unfaithful by letting Koko in her inkwell?

(I really don’t get this habit of reinterpreting rubberhose characters with bone and muscle structure.)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/4 "2017-06-26T23:50:31Z")

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> [@Trancephalic](#):
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> So is she still schtupping a dog or is she being unfaithful by letting Koko in her inkwell?
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> (I really don’t get this habit of reinterpreting rubberhose characters with bone and muscle structure.)

Don’t forget that she herself was canine before she morphed into a humanoid.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/5 "2017-06-27T00:24:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The artist, Gisele Lagace, does one of my favorite webcomics(_Ménage à 3_) and several _Archie_ comics, including the _Archie Meets The Ramones_ one-shot.

It’s too bad that modern Archie doesn’t use that style anymore, as she totally rocks that style, while also adding a bit of anime influence (for Zii and especially Yuki).  
Is she a style chameleon?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/6 "2017-06-27T01:22:49Z")

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Roger Langridge writing it? I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. The guy is GOOD!

(Anybody cat “Snarked,” the lovely Carrollian re-telling? Beautiful!)

(I’ll buy pert’ near anything written by Roger Langridge or Jimmy Palmiotti. They are able to turn out high-quality writing on a wholly dependable basis.)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/7 "2017-06-27T11:42:06Z")

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Well, the artworks beats the appalling, stiff style they used for her syndicated strip back in the 1930s ( [https://www.google.com/search?q=Betty+Boop+newspaper+comics&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlt4-w993UAhXGeSYKHcQlAaUQ\_AUIBigB&biw=1440&bih=708#imgrc=8kl\_fTJ0kSUvZM:&spf=1498563319055](https://www.google.com/search?q=Betty+Boop+newspaper+comics&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlt4-w993UAhXGeSYKHcQlAaUQ_AUIBigB&biw=1440&bih=708#imgrc=8kl_fTJ0kSUvZM:&spf=1498563319055) ) and her more recent foray several years back ( [https://www.google.com/search?q=Betty+Boop+newspaper+comics&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlt4-w993UAhXGeSYKHcQlAaUQ\_AUIBigB&biw=1440&bih=708#imgrc=bNuKDSZYW\_SaeM:&spf=1498563319058](https://www.google.com/search?q=Betty+Boop+newspaper+comics&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlt4-w993UAhXGeSYKHcQlAaUQ_AUIBigB&biw=1440&bih=708#imgrc=bNuKDSZYW_SaeM:&spf=1498563319058) )

At the end of the second edition of Leslie Cabarga’s wonderful book _The Fleischer Story_ there are a couple of “updated” Bettys drawn by the original Betty cartoonists, including one by Grim Natwick. They would’ve been interesting to see in a continued strip. (Natwick also did a nude Betty in recent years. See here – [https://www.google.com/search?q=Betty+Boop+updated+Grim+Natwick&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjB-ILp993UAhWCOSYKHWL0Bt0Q\_AUIBigB&biw=1440&bih=708&dpr=1#imgrc=p7xDaLi8iCPVSM:&spf=1498563469479](https://www.google.com/search?q=Betty+Boop+updated+Grim+Natwick&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjB-ILp993UAhWCOSYKHWL0Bt0Q_AUIBigB&biw=1440&bih=708&dpr=1#imgrc=p7xDaLi8iCPVSM:&spf=1498563469479) )

I might have to have a look at this book. I haven’t been happy with any “recent” bettys, but it’s hard to recapture the mood and feel when your original is rooted decades in the past.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/8 "2017-06-27T12:40:54Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [In graphic novel format.](https://www.amazon.com/Betty-Boop-Roger-Langridge/dp/1524103187/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498508960&sr=1-1&keywords=betty+boop) Looking through the preview pages, it’s very much in the style of the pre-Code films.

Hmmm. “Some pages are omitted from this book preview.” Is that where the, um, pre-code images are? 'Cause up until about 1936 there was little difference in the animation style, save for costume mishaps and a certain amount of sheerness, neither of which are in evidence in the sample (garter not withstanding).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/9 "2017-07-03T06:52:51Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Hmmm. “Some pages are omitted from this book preview.” Is that where the, um, pre-code images are? 'Cause up until about 1936 there was little difference in the animation style, save for costume mishaps and a certain amount of sheerness, neither of which are in evidence in the sample (garter not withstanding).

[Oh](http://images.mentalfloss.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/both-bettys.jpg), [really](https://www.google.com/search?q=betty+boop+1935&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ6eaSwuzUAhUCSSYKHVuqCsUQsAQIJw&biw=1920&bih=974#imgrc=9VHheOjTJ-LaGM:)? 🙂 The Code wasn’t enforced until '34, by the way.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/10 "2017-07-03T07:24:35Z")

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IOW, everything out of Hollywood prior to July of 1934 is considered “pre-Code” and she’s definitely not wearing anything post-Code in the preview pages.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/11 "2017-07-03T12:21:09Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> IOW, everything out of Hollywood prior to July of 1934 is considered “pre-Code” and she’s definitely not wearing anything post-Code in the preview pages.

Really?

> [@wiki](#):
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> [No longer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Boop#Under_the_Production_Code) a carefree flapper from the date the code went into effect on July 1, 1934, Betty became a spinster housewife or a career girl who wore a fuller dress or skirt.

Pre-code, her costume was almost always a strapless, black, very short dress, as exemplified in [_Snow White_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgOCpX46Aks) (1933). Compare that with her outfit in [_A Little Soap and Water_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmg0J626vlw) (1935). I’d say the pix in the book match the latter outfit more (albeit with more cleavage) than the former.

In any event, in case I have to spell it out, I was referring more to when her costume comes off exposing her undies, like [_Old Man of the Mountain_](https://youtu.be/tK6Ty-uLIwM?t=341), or is missing all together as in [_Is My Palm Read_](https://youtu.be/Ul1XyOI1eHQ?t=141) (stick around for more undies fan service).

Of course, there’s her topless Pacific islander in [_Bamboo Isle_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkOK2ZbvEgM) (skip to 6:23 for the rotoscoped hula), or the diaphanous nightgown in _[Red Hot Mama](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUZb6zCZ9I0)_ (a [highlight](https://youtu.be/tUZb6zCZ9I0?t=164)).

And if you like color, there’s the two-strip Technicolor of [_Poor Cinderella_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdlWyazXhsA).

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/12 "2017-07-03T14:40:05Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Roger Langridge writing it? I’ll buy it in a heartbeat. The guy is GOOD!

Seconded! Definitely throwing this one on the “to buy” list.

I’ve met Langridge, too - very briefly at the end of an SPX in Bethesda, must have been 2005 or 2006. He was idly sketching Popeye punching a Goon; I complimented him on it and he said I could have it. I refused to take it without buying something from him, so now I have a signed Langridge tucked neatly away in a folder on my comics shelf alongside one of his graphic novels.

I should get it framed sometime…

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/13 "2017-07-03T18:39:59Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Really?  
> Pre-code, her costume was almost always a strapless, black, very short dress, as exemplified in [_Snow White_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgOCpX46Aks) (1933). Compare that with her outfit in [_A Little Soap and Water_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmg0J626vlw) (1935). I’d say the pix in the book match the latter outfit more (albeit with more cleavage) than the former.

What? You really think an apron over a knee-length dress _with a back_ looks like the backless thigh-length outfit in the preview pages?

In any event, was referring to the outfit as a whole, not what happens to it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/14 "2017-07-03T18:51:18Z")

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BTW: I have over 100 Betty videos on my iPod. No need to link anything.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/15 "2017-07-03T19:51:42Z")

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Betty Boop was buds with Puddles Pity Party?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/betty-boop-is-back/789935/16 "2017-07-06T10:56:07Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> BTW: I have over 100 Betty videos on my iPod. No need to link anything.

Not everybody reading this thread does, though.
