Between 1913 and 1993, what did Republican presidents achieve?

[The_Flying_Dutchman]

@RickJay

We will never know for sure but I think there’s quite a good chance Richard Nixon prevented nuclear war and the destruction of Western civilization.

Wow!

[The_Second_Stone]

Hey, we should be grateful to Richard Nixon that he didn’t start a nuclear war. http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/305/madman_nuclear_alert.html?breadcrumb=%2Fexperts%2F562%2Fscott_sagan

[BrainGlutton]

@Clothahump

Actually, I was thinking of this: “I’ll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.”

Not that that does not sound plausible as something LBJ would say, it does (and would not even reflect badly on him, all things considered), but a cite would be helpful.

[BrainGlutton]

@RickJay

We will never know for sure but I think there’s quite a good chance Richard Nixon prevented nuclear war and the destruction of Western civilization.

Perhaps, but JFK has a clearer claim there, being the one who defused the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Of course, he needs to share credit with Adlai Stevenson.)

[Clothahump]

@BrainGlutton

Not that that does not sound plausible as something LBJ would say, it does (and would not even reflect badly on him, all things considered), but a cite would be helpful.

Google the phrase. There are many references to it. Here’s one: http://www.youdontsay.org/What2000.htm

And it most assuredly sounds like LBJ. The man cared about nothing but power. If it took Medicare and Civil Rights to buy votes, then by God, that’s what he would do. A perfect scoundrel.

[Polycarp]

@smiling_bandit

And the usual crowd comes out to insist that they’re raving maniancs are really the sane ones. How od that the supposed enlightened demigods of reason are so desperate they cannot let even a simple thread like this one come by without beating their miniscule chests.

You children never could get over Bush, did you. Heh.

You’re right. I made positive comments on the achievements of Republicans for whom I had respect, instead of a blindly partisan post. Thanks for reminding me of the proper behavior in Great Debates; you can be assured I won’t make that mistake again! :mad:

[Captain_Amazing]

@Polycarp

You’re right. I made positive comments on the achievements of Republicans for whom I had respect, instead of a blindly partisan post. Thanks for reminding me of the proper behavior in Great Debates; you can be assured I won’t make that mistake again! :mad:

I don’t think smiling bandit was referring to your post in his post.

[BrainGlutton]

@Clothahump

And it most assuredly sounds like LBJ. The man cared about nothing but power. If it took Medicare and Civil Rights to buy votes, then by God, that’s what he would do. A perfect scoundrel.

:dubious: A politician giving the people what they want to “buy votes”? That’s not scoundrelly, that’s exactly how democracy is supposed to work.

[The_Second_Stone]

@Clothahump

And it most assuredly sounds like LBJ. The man cared about nothing but power. If it took Medicare and Civil Rights to buy votes, then by God, that’s what he would do. A perfect scoundrel.

By that logic universal health care with single payer would make one a perfect scoundrel. Johnson was only a half-assed scoundrel.

I don’t think that that word means what you think it does. At least not from the context you are using it.

[flickster]

There was one thing all 8 of those Republican Presidents achieved in common…
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Kept the Democrats out of office

[BrainGlutton]

@Clothahump

Google the phrase. There are many references to it. Here’s one: http://www.youdontsay.org/What2000.htm

Considering the rather obviously partisan source for that, how about a credible cite?

[Captain_Amazing]

@BrainGlutton

Considering the rather obviously partisan source for that, how about a credible cite?

It’s also in Ronald Kessler’s “Inside the White House”. He cites Robert MacMillan, an Air Force One steward. I don’t know that it’s particularly implausible that Johnson would say that, though.

[BrainGlutton]

@Captain_Amazing

It’s also in Ronald Kessler’s “Inside the White House”. He cites Robert MacMillan, an Air Force One steward. I don’t know that it’s particularly implausible that Johnson would say that, though.

Nor inappropriate, excepting the racially offensive language.

[Captain_Amazing]

@BrainGlutton

Nor inappropriate, excepting the racially offensive language.

I think the implication is that Johnson supported the Civil Rights Act for partisan gain, rather than because he actually cared about civil rights for black people. I don’t know if that’s true or not. I also don’t know that it matters, but that’s part of the consequentialist/absolutist debate and outside the scope of this one.

[Great_Dave]

@foolsguinea

Oddly, the conservative movement which took over the GOP after Nixon’s resignation has a wing of anti-environmentalists. They know enough not to criticize the Clean Air Act, but they definitely don’t brag about these accomplishments. (And they were a big part of why I left the party.)

Actually, Sen Murkowski (R-AK) has put forth a resolution that would rescind EPA authority to regulate emissions given by the Clean Air Act. So not only are they criticizing it, they are actively trying to undermine it.