# Beverly Green Acres Hillbillies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 11, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220 "2018-04-11T15:47:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/21 "2018-04-11T17:19:24Z")

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The _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ cast appeared as the staff of a Fifties pulp sf magazine in one episode; the covers of several of the magazines were drawn from earlier _ST_ art: [Incredible Tales of Scientific Wonder | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Incredible_Tales)

Tom Paris enjoyed Holodeck adventures as Captain Proton on _Star Trek: Voyager_, so he was a sf character pretending to be another (much earlier) sf character: [Captain Proton | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_Proton)

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**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/22 "2018-04-11T17:32:05Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> \*\*\*Batman \*\*\*and _ **The Green Hornet** _. In the former, the heroes of the latter were guest stars. In the latter, the bad guys watched the former on TV.

It is more complicated than that. Green Hornet and Kato first appeared in a bat-climb in episode #41 “The Spell of Tut”. Batman and Robin recognize them as fellow crime fighters although Robin is puzzled by their weird outfits. Later they starred in a two part episode “A piece of the action”/“Batman’s satisfaction” where like most people Batman and Robin think the Green Hornet and Kato are criminals (Britt Reid is an old friendly rival of millionaire Bruce Wayne).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/23 "2018-04-11T18:09:17Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> **ftg** ’s referring to the pilot Jerry and George produced for NBC within the show. All of the main \*\*\*Seinfeld \*\*\*characters (with the exception of Jerry) were played by different actors.

An approach also used in _Stargate SG-1_ with _[Wormhole X-Treme!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole_X-Treme!)_

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/24 "2018-04-11T18:19:36Z")

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When the Good Girls did their money laundering-shopping, they did so at a Cloud 9 store, the location of Superstore.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/25 "2018-04-11T18:37:06Z")

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Jay Sherman of _The Critic_ appeared on _The Simpsons_.

It stunk.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/26 "2018-04-11T19:04:11Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> _Mad About You/Seinfeld_.
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> First it’s established in _MAY_ that Kramer’s apartment is actually Paul’s old apartment that he sublets. Jamie is unhappy about the sublet and Paul keeping some stuff there. At the end of the episode Paul gets his stuff from Kramer and asks about the guy across the hall (Jerry). Paul apparently doesn’t think much of him. How Paul knows Jerry since Jerry moved in _after_ Kramer is another matter.
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> In a latter episode Paul is excited to see the famous Jerry Seinfeld from TV on the street and rushes up to talk to him.

I’ve heard this one before, along with the resolution.

Jerry Seinfeld still plays a relatively famous stand-up comedian in his show. All that is required is that he’s done a TV special, and it all makes sense. It’s still Jerry from the show, not Jerry from real life.

I don’t know about the OP. Do they play the actual same characters from the show in their play? Could the play be based on a true story in that universe?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/27 "2018-04-11T19:11:13Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’ve heard this one before, along with the resolution.
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> Jerry Seinfeld still plays a relatively famous stand-up comedian in his show. All that is required is that he’s done a TV special, and it all makes sense. It’s still Jerry from the show, not Jerry from real life…

Although, as I mentioned, Mad About You is a show that George and Susan watch in the Seinfeld universe. Basically, they just don’t worry as much about those kind of continuity issues.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/28 "2018-04-11T19:20:06Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Jay Sherman of _The Critic_ appeared on _The Simpsons_.
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> It stunk.

You can say that again.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/29 "2018-04-11T19:32:10Z")

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There was an episode of _ **St Elsewhere** _ in which Dr Craig has just banged his wife and decides to turn on the TV to “see who’s on _ **Carson** _; probably some stupid comic.”

We can’t see the tube, but the sound comes up and it’s clear he’s watching Howie Mandel (Dr Fiscus) do his trademark routine.

“What’s that he’s wearing? A giant hand?”

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/30 "2018-04-11T19:34:52Z")

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Community/Cougar Town/Scrubs.

Abed from Community talks about being a fan of Cougar Town on several occasions, so Cougar Town exists as a TV show in the Community universe. IIRC Abed wrote to the Cougar Town producers and wound up being able to visit the set. He says they gave him a background part. And indeed, he can be seen in the [background of this Cougar Town episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWfJYJMrYa0).

And crossing over the other direction, the characters Travis and Laurie from Cougar Town have a very brief appearance in a Community episode.  
Also many actors from Scrubs have roles on Cougar Town. But during a couple episodes there was an almost complete crossover although the characters weren’t officially the same other than Ted making references to the people at his old job: [Cougartown finally collides with Scrubs - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaWrBOziiLo)

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/31 "2018-04-11T19:41:26Z")

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Required link in all threads of this type - [Fan Theory Proves Almost All TV Shows Exist Within Same Universe | HuffPost Entertainment](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tv-show-fake-tommy-westphall-universe_us_55f84ba1e4b00e2cd5e8118a)

Petticoat Junction, Green Acres, and the Beverley Hillbillies are all on the chart.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/32 "2018-04-11T19:43:36Z")

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Sometime around the middle of their runs, I noticed that _ **St Elsewhere** _ and _ **Hill Street Blues** _ often borrowed plot elements from each other. This was logical, since they were both MTM productions. The one I remember best is the male stripper hired for someone’s birthday. On _ **HSB** _, it was for Lucy Bates; a couple of weeks later, it turned up on _ **SE** _: “I got the idea from some cop show.”

_ **St Elsewhere** _ used other MTM elements as well. A mental patient mistook the Navy officer played by Betty White for Sue Ann Nivens, and (if I’m not mistaken) one of Bob Newhart’s psychiatric patients showed up complaining about his former analyst, “a real quack in Chicago.”

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/33 "2018-04-11T19:46:10Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ cast appeared as the staff of a Fifties pulp sf magazine in one episode; the covers of several of the magazines were drawn from earlier _ST_ art: [Incredible Tales of Scientific Wonder | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Incredible_Tales)

I like to think the characters in that episode are the real ones, and that DS9 is all fiction.

But then, I think Buffy is actually in a mental asylum, so…

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/34 "2018-04-11T19:47:27Z")

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Archer had a crossover epidode with Bob’s Burgers, which was weird since H Jon Benjamin voices both Archer and Bob. The artwork for Bob’s Burgers was redone Archer Style, so you had Archer as Bob, looking different but sounding exactly the same.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/35 "2018-04-11T19:52:09Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> Required link in all threads of this type - [Fan Theory Proves Almost All TV Shows Exist Within Same Universe | HuffPost Entertainment](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tv-show-fake-tommy-westphall-universe_us_55f84ba1e4b00e2cd5e8118a)
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> Petticoat Junction, Green Acres, and the Beverley Hillbillies are all on the chart.

Jack Bauer watched _ **Lou Grant** _? :dubious: 😕

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/36 "2018-04-11T19:53:45Z")

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The character “Warren Coolidge” originated on “The White Shadow” but later was a regular on “St. Elsewhere”. In one episode of the latter show, the actor who portrayed “Salami” guested in a different role and “Coolidge”, upon seeing him called out “Hey, Salami”.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/37 "2018-04-11T20:00:52Z")

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On an episode of _The Simpsons_, the _Futurama_ cast travels back in time, and then the Simpsons cast travels forward.

However, in the _Futurama_ episode “A Big Piece of Garbage,” the garbage ball includes Bart Simpson dolls, implying that he is fictional.

> [@terentii](#):
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> _ **St Elsewhere** _ used other MTM elements as well. A mental patient mistook the Navy officer played by Betty White for Sue Ann Nivens, and (if I’m not mistaken) one of Bob Newhart’s psychiatric patients showed up complaining about his former analyst, “a real quack in Chicago.”

Also, orderly Coolidge mistook a character Tim Van Patten was playing for “Salame,” someone Coolidge played basketball with on _The White Shadow_.

But “_St. Eleswhere_ doesn’t count as it was all in Tommy’s mind the whole time” - otherwise, I would point out that there was one episode where Dr. Morrison went to the bar that was the inspiration for _Cheers_, and there is a banner outside of the bar saying as much, but in a later episode, the _Cheers_ bar, and its characters, are real.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/38 "2018-04-11T20:16:39Z")

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On Mad About You they established that her mother had a bit part as one of the pretty girls on the Alan Brady show, which is the not-Carl Reiner sketch comedy show that Dick Van Dyke worked on in his sitcom.

Also on MAY they met John Astin playing Gomez Addams although they didn’t name the character. Given that Lurch appeared in one episode of Batman (in a window gag: “Return to your harpsichord good citizen”) that tells us that Friends is set in the same universe as Batman.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/39 "2018-04-11T20:19:56Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I like to think the characters in that episode are the real ones, and that DS9 is all fiction.
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> But then, I think Buffy is actually in a mental asylum, so…

That wouldn’t surprise me. She killed all the vampires in Beverly Hills, and watched her mentor die. That kinda trauma might send _anyone_ to the loony bin, where she can delude herself into thinking that she’s continuing those activities in a different town for ten years without hurting anyone important.

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**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beverly-green-acres-hillbillies/812220/40 "2018-04-11T20:29:17Z")

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I’m not sure if these count, but there was an episode of _The Cosby Show_ where he dreams that he’s a spy and Robert Culp shows up.  
There’s an episode of _The Drew Carey Show_ where Drew Carey’s mother (June Lockhart) is watching _Lassie_ on TV.

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