# Beyonce Knowles' new video kills me. I love it. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 25, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102 "2011-05-25T02:29:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/41 "2011-05-25T16:00:18Z")
I thought it looked very Michael-Jackson-ish too. I must not know enough about dancing because it didn’t look that weird to me. Or perhaps all dancing looks weird to me? ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/42 "2011-05-25T16:02:27Z")
During the one scene when she’s wearing a green thing slashed across the chest (How many wardrobe changes do post-apocalyptic girls keep stashed in their truck in the middle of the desert?) and shaking the girls side to side, all I could think of was, “How many rolls of cleavage tape did they go through to prevent wardrobe malfunctions in that scene alone?”. And if girls rule the world, how come she’s hiding behind two male guards? If the riot-geared men had rushed the group of women rolling around on the ground in heels, instead of a last-second second group of riot-geared men that showed up from nowhere, the video might have gotten interesting. It just made me sad that, as bad as it was, it will be hailed as incredibly wonderful by her fans…doing that goofy thing with her feet was just odd. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/43 "2011-05-25T16:05:50Z")
The video is fantastic. The song is unlistenable. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/44 "2011-05-25T16:11:50Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I thought it looked very Michael-Jackson-ish too. I must not know enough about dancing because it didn’t look that weird to me. Or perhaps all dancing looks weird to me? See, I thought it was supposed to look Michael Jacksonish, but just ended up looking funny. Honestly, I think they should have reshot the funny dancing party and made it better. Still, I am loving having a laugh at it. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/45 "2011-05-25T16:13:43Z")
I only got through the first ten to fifteen seconds or so. My reaction: Meh. Made me shrug my shoulders and move on. Now I can’t stop shrugging! HELP! ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/46 "2011-05-25T16:45:32Z")
“Not available on mobile.” Oh poop. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/47 "2011-05-25T17:48:17Z")
Tina Turner did it better 25 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/48 "2011-05-25T17:58:05Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I like this song. The music I recognize as a dancehall riddim; one of my favorites right now. > > The dancing is the kind of dancing that a cutting edge, edgy forward thinking workaholic with more ambition than talent would do. Three years from now, Justin Bieber will be doing a watered down version of that herky jerky shit and folks will be eating it up with a spoon. Preach. I actually hate this song, BUT— not all dancing is supposed to be pretty. I’m not sure how anyone can say the dancing is technically bad though, she’s really hitting it and nailing what are (if you are looking) pretty complex moves. The moves just ain’t pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/49 "2011-05-25T17:59:40Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Tina Turner did it better 25 years ago. Did what better 25 years ago? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/50 "2011-05-25T18:04:02Z")
Beyonce has never struck me as more than an enthusiastic but utilitarian dancer. She’s technically accurate, but doesn’t bring anything special to the table. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/51 "2011-05-25T18:32:25Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > Beyonce has never struck me as more than an enthusiastic but utilitarian dancer. She’s technically accurate, but doesn’t bring anything special to the table. I’ve said this before and have been criticized, but I will say it again: I never liked the performers who were just hardworking, ambitious entertainers without that ‘something special’ talent. I never did. I’m thinking Usher and Timberlake and their ilk. They seem to have learned to master the moves, but they don’t seem to have that innate magic. I respect their work ethic, I just don’t find them to be my favorite entertainers. I prefer to be entertained by performers who have that extra special ‘talent’. Some performers have that and almost no technical skill (Hi, Britney) and some have that magic and tons of technical skill (Hi Michael Jackson). I would put Beyonce in the same catagory as Usher and Timberlake if not for one thing…her absolute fearlessness. It’s not just that she is willing to work like a horse…it is that she is willing to do that, master moves of the icons and on top of that, have the audacity to try to bring something new. I likes that. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/52 "2011-05-25T18:43:02Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I’ve said this before and have been criticized, but I will say it again: > > I never liked the performers who were just hardworking, ambitious entertainers without that ‘something special’ talent. I never did. I’m thinking Usher and Timberlake and their ilk. They seem to have learned to master the moves, but they don’t seem to have that innate magic. I respect their work ethic, I just don’t find them to be my favorite entertainers. > > I prefer to be entertained by performers who have that extra special ‘talent’. Some performers have that and almost no technical skill (Hi, Britney) and some have that magic and tons of technical skill (Hi Michael Jackson). > > I would put Beyonce in the same catagory as Usher and Timberlake if not for one thing…her absolute fearlessness. It’s not just that she is willing to work like a horse…it is that she is willing to do that, master moves of the icons and on top of that, have the audacity to try to bring something new. I likes that. Agreed. She’s always giving it her best. She also comes across as a really likable, class act all around. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/53 "2011-05-25T18:57:01Z")
So it’s not just me then. She dances like she’s having an epileptic fit. I’ll add the [Vizio ad](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZVAX69ujEU) of her dancing which I’m guessing is suppose to be sexy. It made me think of the Seinfeld episode with Elaine dancing. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/54 "2011-05-25T19:43:28Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Did what better 25 years ago? Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome. She’s quite good in it. > [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I would put Beyonce in the same catagory as Usher and Timberlake if not for one thing…her absolute fearlessness. It’s not just that she is willing to work like a horse…it is that she is willing to do that, master moves of the icons and on top of that, have the audacity to try to bring something new. I likes that. I can’t speak for Justin Timberlake beyond what I’ve seen him do on Saturday Night Live when he is a guest, but he is the funniest thing on the show. He has great comedy chops. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/55 "2011-05-25T19:53:13Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > …I can’t speak for Justin Timberlake beyond what I’ve seen him do on Saturday Night Live when he is a guest, but he is the funniest thing on the show. He has great comedy chops. Agreed. I meant more, his pop act. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/56 "2011-05-25T20:02:00Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome. She’s quite good in it. Two divas enter, one diva leaves! ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/57 "2011-05-25T20:14:20Z")
The style in the video is basically Krumping, right? [Krumping](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0mTvBlLQWc) seems to be more about literally having your body imitate the rhythm of the song and “look what I can make my body do” than looking pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/58 "2011-05-25T20:23:54Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I can’t speak for Justin Timberlake beyond what I’ve seen him do on Saturday Night Live when he is a guest, but he is the funniest thing on the show. He has great comedy chops. This. I’d heard of him before but this was the first time I’d seen him. I don’t normally watch SNL because it’s so lame but he was absolutely the funniest thing on the show. He has great comedic timing and appears to be able to sing and choreograph well. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/59 "2011-05-25T20:59:26Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I’ve said this before and have been criticized, but I will say it again: > > I never liked the performers who were just hardworking, ambitious entertainers without that ‘something special’ talent. I never did. I’m thinking Usher and Timberlake and their ilk. They seem to have learned to master the moves, but they don’t seem to have that innate magic. I respect their work ethic, I just don’t find them to be my favorite entertainers. > > I prefer to be entertained by performers who have that extra special ‘talent’. Some performers have that and almost no technical skill (Hi, Britney) and some have that magic and tons of technical skill (Hi Michael Jackson). > > I would put Beyonce in the same catagory as Usher and Timberlake if not for one thing…her absolute fearlessness. It’s not just that she is willing to work like a horse…it is that she is willing to do that, master moves of the icons and on top of that, have the audacity to try to bring something new. I likes that. I get your general point but I don’t see it as applied to Beyonce. MJ, polished and smooth. BK, jerky and out of sync. She needs a new choreographer. I myself could care less how hard they work. If someone can walk on stage and nail it I’m happy. I’d prefer that musicians spend more time on their music and less on visual presentation (I’m looking at you Lady Gaga). Getting tired of looking at video’s out of the “Clockwork Orange school of What the Hell”? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102/60 "2011-05-25T21:17:21Z")
The hyenas are the icing on the cake. I would love to see someone do a mashup of Beyonce’s “Girls” and the Beastie Boys’ “Girls.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beyonce-knowles-new-video-kills-me-i-love-it/583102.md?page=4)