# "Biatch" ... where the heck did that pronunciation come from? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 27, 2002, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466 "2002-03-27T22:33:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/1 "2002-03-27T22:33:55Z")
Where did the term “biatch” (that is, “bitch,” only pronounced as “bee-otch”) come from? I started hearing it a few years back from one of my friends who went to Boston University (where, incidentally, most of his classmates were from the NYC metro area). Anyone know its time/place/reason of origin? ---
**Author:** ![Boobka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Boobka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boobka)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/2 "2002-03-27T22:45:46Z")
I believe it was Snoop Doggy Dog … made more famous by Bevis and Butthead. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/3 "2002-03-27T22:46:32Z")
It’s a kind of ebonics, IIRC. Think of it as pig-Latin, but a little different. When my brother was in the Army, he could speak it fluently, for a white boy. Believe me, it’s really hard to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2002, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/4 "2002-03-27T23:34:10Z")
If you try to post profanities at [www.fark.com](http://www.fark.com), they get automatically changed to ‘biatch’, ‘Shiat’, ‘Fark’ and so on. ---
**Author:** ![peepthis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9d8465/32.png) [@peepthis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peepthis)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/5 "2002-03-28T00:18:33Z")
Not Snoop Dogg. **2Short** (the rapper) is generally credited with popularizing “beeotch,” years before Snoop appropriated it and brought it to the masses on his album “Doggystyle.” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Green\_Fool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mr.Green\_Fool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Green_Fool)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/6 "2002-03-28T02:44:02Z")
In a related story… When did “izz” and “issa” start getting added to words You like, “Hiss-ouse” and “Bizzatch” I heard an old hip hop song called something like “Double Dutch” that used it (double dizz-utch) so it isn’t recent. ---
**Author:** ![mellonhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19adc/32.png) [@mellonhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mellonhead)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/7 "2002-03-28T03:11:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. Green Fool \* > \*\*In a related story… When did “izz” and “issa” start getting added to words > > You like, “Hiss-ouse” and “Bizzatch” > > I heard an old hip hop song called something like “Double Dutch” that used it (double dizz-utch) so it isn’t recent. \*\* I believe “Hiss-ouse” and “Bizzatch” comes from the same system of ghetto-Pig-Latin as the “Shizznit”, or in the ‘Queen’s English’, the s\*\*t. It just snowballed from there producing phrases like (I can’t believe I’m typing this) “the Shizz-nizza-ditch” or “Izza-waahzat”. As far as “Beeotch” goes, I believe this is from the same type of system (taking a normal word, ‘Ebonifying’ it for ghetto cool and then taking it to the streets to be repeated by white American suburban 15-year olds everywhere) - however it was popularized by one Mr. Snoop Dog. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/8 "2002-03-28T03:35:23Z")
if you listen to old Too Short records (example: Cusswords), you’ll see that he didn’t really say bee-yotch. It sounded more like beeitch, all in one syllable. It seems to me (WAG) that bee-yotch came from an exaggeration of that sort of accent, until it became a different pronunciation. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/9 "2002-03-28T04:30:37Z")
“So if you want to get all ugly, take a hit of Rocket Fuel Malt Liquor. It’s shizzinta flavour will get you all kablanistan. DAMN!” I miss Phil Hartman. ---
**Author:** ![croaker67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@croaker67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/croaker67)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/10 "2002-03-28T04:53:56Z")
The English language, similar to a person with alzheimers is fading fast. Alas, po Yorrick let me ax you a question. Knamean… (horrible isn’t it) ---
**Author:** ![sundog66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@sundog66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sundog66)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2002, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biatch-where-the-heck-did-that-pronunciation-come-from/100466/11 "2002-03-28T07:01:25Z")
> [@](#): > > The English language, similar to a person with alzheimers is fading fast. Is it really fading, or just changing? Look at the English that Shakespeare used. Do we use a “faded” form of that just because it predates us? The people we accuse for their unconventional style are the same people who synthesized the roots of our language when the Anglos met the Saxons, and far before that, the same people who contrived language itself. Language is fluid; it will never reach a stand-still, and it’s futile to try to make it do so. These rappers could be pioneering something as paramount as the Great Vowel Shift. Pronouncing “wife” as we do today (as opposed to “weef”) may have been scoffed upon just as greatly 300 years ago, and so with “biatch”. People create language, and it is ultimately they who determine its behavior, not English teachers or grammatical sticklers.