# Bible thumper responds to video by atheist girl **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 1, 2011, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999 "2011-03-01T00:47:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/21 "2011-03-01T02:53:48Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > You stopped reading at the end of the thread? Would you have liked to continue? Haha…I stopped reading the letter from the apologist at the point where the apologist said that Moses wrote the Pentateuch (which he misspelled, as well). ---
**Author:** ![SeldomSeen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@SeldomSeen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeldomSeen)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/22 "2011-03-01T03:25:28Z")
**Quoth “bro”** > [@](#): > > This video is actually a classic tool used by atheists to misdirect and confuse people. Remember, the bible says Satan is the fathe of lies and it also calls anyone who fails to believe the Word of God a “fool.” **This girl, like all atheists is a fool**. (bolding mine) You might mention that in “bro’s” six readings of the Bible he apparently skipped over Matthew 5:22\*…"But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council:\*\* but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.\*\*\* SS ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/23 "2011-03-01T03:33:29Z")
I have to say, **Oakminster** , your comments about the girl in the video are in very poor taste. She’s 14. She may have come to her convictions pretty recently and she may be testing out how she feels about these things. Sometimes you go too far when you’re exploring a new religious conviction (or any attitude) at that age. It happens and usually people tone it down as they grow up and learn to live and let live. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/24 "2011-03-01T03:33:47Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Haha…I stopped reading the letter from the apologist at the point where the apologist said that Moses wrote the Pentateuch (which he misspelled, as well). Oh. I thought you were directing that at **Dio**! This makes much more sense. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/25 "2011-03-01T03:43:47Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Even with today’s technology, would it be remotely possible for 2 million nomads to live in the deserts between Egypt and Israel for 40 years without continually importing food and potable water? I don’t know, but according to the bible, food was provided anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/26 "2011-03-01T14:33:04Z")
“Bro” needs to learn that verbal abuse and denigration are not the best ways to convince people of the love of Christ. ---
**Author:** ![jinty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@jinty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jinty)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/27 "2011-03-01T16:14:41Z")
My favourite part: > [@](#): > > Also, a final note to remember, ( and **you must trust me on this** )… Umm… if I were you, I’d ask why? Why exactly MUST we trust YOU on this? (Incidentally, I wouldn’t trust him to cash a one-dollar cheque, the whole thing is hideously manipulative with its “do-what-I-say-or-you’re-going-to-hell” shtick. I feel sorry for his sister.) Also, your friend says of her brother that he is: > [@](#): > > someone who really knows what he’s talking about when it comes to the bible. Oh really? Why does HE get an E-for-expert rating while the youtube girl doesn’t? > [@](#): > > please remember I have read the ENTIRE bible 6 times now from cover to cover. So, the first five times weren’t enough? ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/28 "2011-03-01T16:36:34Z")
I dont have a ton to add here but this “At the risk of sounding like a religious fanatic, please remember I have read the ENTIRE bible 6 times now from cover to cover. I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS AND WHAT IT DOESN’T SAY. I know for a fact THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF THE ONE, TRUE GOD.” made me lol. how old is this guy? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/29 "2011-03-01T17:16:20Z")
Cover-to-cover is really not the best way to read the Bible, really, and reading any particular part of the Bible only six times is pretty unimpressive if you claim to be an expert. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/30 "2011-03-01T17:17:35Z")
I doubt he’s even read it once. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/31 "2011-03-01T17:31:43Z")
He knows what the Bible says, but I’m not convinced he knows what it means. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/32 "2011-03-01T17:44:24Z")
I’m not really convinced he knows what it says or what it means…certainly he’s not biblical scholar. In my experience, people like this THINK they know what the bible says and what it means because they have heard parts of it preached at them in sermons and perhaps have read a few passages, but when you start to really question them it turns out that they haven’t ever actually read the thing cover to cover (in a lot of cases with Christians, they have read more of the NT than the OT, and they conflate a lot of stuff that actually isn’t in either but that they have heard or someone has told them about), let alone seriously studied what it says, or what it means or it’s history. Personally, I wouldn’t bother even responding to someone who’s muzzle is that covered in foam about the comments of a 14 year old kid. -XT ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/33 "2011-03-01T17:53:27Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Personally, I wouldn’t bother even responding to someone who’s muzzle is that covered in foam about the comments of a 14 year old kid. Sums up my position. But then, I wouldn’t have been trolling my friends with that video either. As an aside: Is it appropriate to post a full quote like that from someone who doesn’t know you are doing it? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/34 "2011-03-01T18:01:40Z")
> [@](#): > > Jesus is God. IF anyone tells you otherwise they are ignorant, misinformed or worse, being used by the devil to steal your soul. Well, I guess that’s game, set and match, then. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/35 "2011-03-01T18:43:55Z")
I’m with Larry Borgia. I believe it was Christ Himself who said something like “Whoever calls his brother a fool is in danger of Hellfire.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/36 "2011-03-01T18:49:06Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I suppose this is the passage he’s talking about from Matthew: > _"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it. > (Mt. 10:34-39)_ > > There’s also this parallel passage in Luke: > > _Now there went with him great multitudes: and he turned, and said unto them, “If any man cometh unto me, and hateth not his own father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.” > (Lk. 14:25-26)_ > > What it means is a matter of interpretation and open debate, but it’s hard to support this guy saying it’s merely a warning about persecution when Jesus is quoted as say, _anyone_ whoes not _hate_ father, nother, siblings wife and kids can’t be his disciple. > > This guy seems like a very bitter and hostile individual. The respondent or Jesus? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/37 "2011-03-01T18:52:43Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > Sums up my position. But then, I wouldn’t have been trolling my friends with that video either. The niceties of the rules aside (it sounds like you’re commenting on **MuelSkinner** ’s off-board actions), this is rude. Please dial it back while you’re posting in Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/38 "2011-03-01T19:11:43Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Cover-to-cover is really not the best way to read the Bible, really, and reading any particular part of the Bible only six times is pretty unimpressive if you claim to be an expert. I’m pretty sure I’ve read the Lord of the Rings more than six times but I wouldn’t call myself a Tolkien expert. I never even bothered to learn Quenya. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/39 "2011-03-01T19:12:38Z")
I think shiftless is talking about that 14 year old girl there, not MuelSkinner, but that’s just my impression, FWIW. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Philliam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/philliam/32/3011_2.png) [@Philliam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philliam)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999/40 "2011-03-01T19:48:59Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Even with today’s technology, would it be remotely possible for 2 million nomads to live in the deserts between Egypt and Israel for 40 years without continually importing food and potable water? I’ve always been stumped that they didn’t stumble upon the Gulfs of Suez, Aden or the Med. Sea in all that time, by accident if not intent. Not much more than 100 miles from the center of the Sinai in most any direction you choose. Couldn’t have been looking too hard. Why do I think the 40 years must be allegorical? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bible-thumper-responds-to-video-by-atheist-girl/572999.md?page=3)