# Bibleman? The Holy Spirit wants me to tell you: you're a mealymouthed lying troll... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 31, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660 "2006-10-31T23:36:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/41 "2006-11-01T17:37:06Z")
[QUOTE=FinnAgain] Awww shucks ma’am… I reckon I can sling the lingo when I gotta. [/QUOTE] I might go so far as to say you’re a cunning linguist. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/42 "2006-11-01T18:27:12Z")
**FinnAgain** , this thread doen’t really impress me much. Too easy. Frankly I don’t know why someone with your intellectual capacity would waste his time with **Bibleman**. If **Bibleman** is a liar in the truest sense of the word , its because he’s not 13 years old yet. Pick on someone your own size. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/43 "2006-11-01T19:10:06Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] _Ooooooh, it’s a snaaaake._ ::\*\*D&R:: A quality rant, btw. [/QUOTE] Can’t…resist…temptation… FundieFundieFundieFundieFundieFundieFundieFundie FundieFundieFundieFundieFundieFundieFundieFundie Snnnaaaaaake! Snnnaaaaaake! Ooooooh, it’s a snaaaake. **Finn** , you have my respect (even if we don’t agree on some things), and that’s what matters. You earned it because you are thought provoking, unlike some that are thought deterring. You can only keep the frustration inside for so long when dealing with the latter, therefore…great rant. ---
**Author:** ![Boggette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@Boggette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boggette)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/44 "2006-11-01T19:24:23Z")
[QUOTE=FriarTed] To be fair, tho, the Serpent/Satan/Lucifer thing is a matter of interpretation. [/QUOTE] I interpret it to mean Eve loved good snake, and Adam’s wasn’t getting it done! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/45 "2006-11-01T19:39:16Z")
[QUOTE=FinnAgain] So he was dumber before he was zombified? Is that kind of like having to stay late after class in order to fail? [/QUOTE] I was thinking more allong the line that if we could turn him into a zombie it would increase his IQ ten fold, maybe even into double figure. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/46 "2006-11-01T19:47:47Z")
FundieFundieFundieI-DI-DFundieFundieFundieI-DI-D FundieFundieFundieI-DI-DFundieFundieFundieI-DI-D Snnnaaaaaake! Snnnaaaaaake! Ooooooh, it’s a snaaaake. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/47 "2006-11-01T20:10:23Z")
I believe it goes something like this; “When you wrestle with a pig, you both get covered in mud, and the pig enjoys it!” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/48 "2006-11-01T20:15:32Z")
[QUOTE=FinnAgain] \True, but I edited the title of the thread a few times, and every space ended up counting. I am glad, though, that it’s a two part name. If it was a one part name, his abbreviated name would just be **Bible** , but as it is, it’s **BM**. Much more fitting for him, IMO. \ [/QUOTE] Sorry - my meaning wasn’t clear. I meant that his name is Bible Man - he sounds like a true believer, and is just being true to what true believers do (believe, that is), annoying though that might be. Not meaning to defend him; just saying that expecting something different from someone like him is a waste of your time. But I have my own pet peeves, and I’ll not condemn you for yours. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Swan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Swan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Swan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/49 "2006-11-01T20:18:37Z")
[QUOTE=featherlou] In all fairness, **FinnAgain** , the guy’s username is “Bible Man.” What’s that saying about arguing with pigs? You get nowhere, and you just annoy the pig? [/QUOTE] I think it’s “Don’t try to wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty, and the pig likes it.” Something like that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/50 "2006-11-01T20:43:50Z")
How 'bout we drop the pig aphorisms and just go with: _Never argue with a moron. Even if you win, all you’ve accomplished is to win an argument with a moron."_ ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/51 "2006-11-01T21:38:49Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] How 'bout we drop the pig aphorisms and just go with: _Never argue with a moron. Even if you win, all you’ve accomplished is to win an argument with a moron."_ [/QUOTE] And on these boards, once you’ve learned that a particular poster will never concede any point or really learn anything from you or other posters but just continue to spew their own point of view {no matter how clear it is that they are wrong} and they make snide sarcastic remarks, then you’d better respond to them only for your own entertainment. If you continue to engage them then you’ve got no real gripe. It’s your own dam fault. I’m not up for banning folks like BM, or BC or DT. Their posts are enough evidence of their value as members. If you don’t like talking to them then don’t. They do at least add some variety to our membership. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/52 "2006-11-01T22:08:33Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I might go so far as to say you’re a cunning linguist. Meeeeeow. [QUOTE=RTFirefly] A quality rant, btw. [/QUOTE] Thanks **RT**. > [@The Flying Dutchman](#): > > ``` > FinnAgain, this thread doen't really impress me much. Too easy. > > ``` Fair enough. I still needed to vent. > [@The Flying Dutchman](#): > > Frankly I don’t know why someone with your intellectual capacity would waste his time with Bibleman. Well… he spreads misinformation and ignorance, and I had figured that it might be worth it to force him to admit mistakes. But, as he’s a troll, he won’t do that. > [@The Flying Dutchman](#): > > If Bibleman is a liar in the truest sense of the word , its because he’s not 13 years old yet. Pick on someone your own size. FWIW, I don’t think he’s a child, just a moron. Even if he is a child, he’d still deserve a smackdown for his dishonesty and trolling in GD. > [@Yeticus Rex](#): > > Finn, you have my respect (even if we don’t agree on some things), and that’s what matters. You earned it because you are thought provoking, unlike some that are thought deterring. You can only keep the frustration inside for so long when dealing with the latter, therefore…great rant. Thanks very much, that’s one of the best compliments I’ve gotten in my time on the Dope. > [@Bippy the Beardless](#): > > I was thinking more allong the line that if we could turn him into a zombie it would increase his IQ ten fold, maybe even into double figure. Man… have you seen some of his more recent bullshit? That idiot still can’t figure out that science isn’t religion, that we don’t have saints or gospel tracts, and evolutionary theory now has, well, evolved since Darwin. Dumb punk is referring to people as “Darwinists”. And of course, to continue his trolling, he refuses to read any links that he is given as they may contain ~gasp!~ “scientific jargon.” This motherfucker would need to be zombified a good few times to reach double digits, I’m afraid. > [@featherlou](#): > > Sorry - my meaning wasn’t clear. I meant that his name is Bible Man - he sounds like a true believer, and is just being true to what true believers do (believe, that is), annoying though that might be. Ahhh, I see your point. Thing is, I don’t have any problems at all with people who find meaning, even deep life-changing spiritual meaning in the Bible. Hey, I like Nietzsche and Joyce, who am I to say that someone else has to have the same favorite authors? What gets me, though, is not just that he finds value in the Bible (as **tom** and **poly** both certainly seem to), but that he’s dishonest and a troll in support of his literary pleasures. > [@featherlou](#): > > Not meaning to defend him; just saying that expecting something different from someone like him is a waste of your time. You are probably right. I had attempted to get him to at least admit that he was wrong on a few points, and/or hit him hard enough with a cluebyfour to get him to consider the epistemological basis for his claims. That, having failed, led to the Pit thread we’ve got now. 😃 > [@featherlou](#): > > But I have my own pet peeves, and I’ll not condemn you for yours. Thanks much. I do realize that this is more on the level of a pet peeve than anything truly cosmic, but I still think we should rid ourselves of this waste of skin. > [@cosmosdan](#): > > And on these boards, once you’ve learned that a particular poster will never concede any point or really learn anything from you or other posters but just continue to spew their own point of view {no matter how clear it is that they are wrong} and they make snide sarcastic remarks, then you’d better respond to them only for your own entertainment. If you continue to engage them then you’ve got no real gripe. It’s your own dam fault. Agreed. Sort of. I certainly take full responsibility for engaging in such futility. But, at the same time, he’s responsible for being a lying troll. > [@cosmosdan](#): > > I’m not up for banning folks like BM, or BC or DT. Their posts are enough evidence of their value as members. I would (obviously) have to argue with that. Members who have no value should, IMO, have no real fear of banning. Members who have a negative value should be kicked to the curb without reservation or hesitation. > [@cosmosdan](#): > > If you don’t like talking to them then don’t. They do at least add some variety to our membership. Eh… he takes us bandwidth, and clutters up discussions that might otherwise be troll free. And while, of course, the DNFTT rule is a very good one, I don’t think that addresses the problem in full. Ignoring trolls is a good start… but kicking them the fuck out is a much better one, again, IMO. I also don’t see any value in adding such variety to our membership. Not all the permutations of intellect and character necessarily add anything to the community. And trolls, of course, deserve nothing but to have their 15 bucks taken and their membership annihilated. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/53 "2006-11-01T22:35:59Z")
[QUOTE=Boggette] I interpret it to mean Eve loved good snake, and Adam’s wasn’t getting it done! 😃 [/QUOTE] She needed a Bibleman PowerSource Series: Bibleman Sword™[ > [@](#): > > …This toy sword is an ideal way to turn everyday role-playing games into reminders of scripture and the life of faith. Plus it lights up, vibrates and has Bibleman sound effects. This toy will sure to be a favorite… ]([http://www.bibleman.com/toys.shtml](http://www.bibleman.com/toys.shtml))Why should the pagans be the only ones with cool [del]sex[/del] toys? (Harry Potter Nimbus 2000 [Broom](http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1355704)) CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/54 "2006-11-01T22:37:05Z")
[QUOTE=FinnAgain] Agreed. Sort of. I certainly take full responsibility for engaging in such futility. But, at the same time, he’s responsible for being a lying troll. [/QUOTE] I’ve tried to figure if he truly believes what he’s spouting or just playing the role for his own entertainment. IUf it’s a role he’s dam good at it. If he truly believes I think it’s ridiculouis but not nessecarily a troll. > [@](#): > > I would (obviously) have to argue with that. Members who have no value should, IMO, have no real fear of banning. Members who have a negative value should be kicked to the curb without reservation or hesitation. > Eh… he takes us bandwidth, and clutters up discussions that might otherwise be troll free. And while, of course, the DNFTT rule is a very good one, I don’t think that addresses the problem in full. > Ignoring trolls is a good start… but kicking them the fuck out is a much better one, again, IMO. I also don’t see any value in adding such variety to our membership. Not all the permutations of intellect and character necessarily add anything to the community. And trolls, of course, deserve nothing but to have their 15 bucks taken and their membership annihilated. I’ll leave that judgement to the mods. We do need some extreme opinions just to liven things up occasionally but I sure do understand your frustration and the desire to vent. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/55 "2006-11-01T23:01:37Z")
Don’t try and teach a pig to sing, you get nowhere and just annoy the pig. Wrestling pigs is you both get dirty, and only the pig enjoys it, or some such. Maybe, don’t try opening someones eyes if their brain is allready dead. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/56 "2006-11-01T23:06:27Z")
What I’m finding myself wondering is when Bible man (yet another whacked out Fundamentalist who does dishonor to his deity by dishonest posting) finally gets banned for trolling, will the other individual trolling in a recent thread the target of this thread’s OP also trolled take a hint and cease? And, yes, I can make a longer run-on sentence if you wish. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/57 "2006-11-01T23:12:04Z")
Sure, but can you make it less comprehensible? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/58 "2006-11-01T23:40:25Z")
Sure. But that would require me borrowing Bm’s magic ring. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/59 "2006-11-01T23:53:03Z")
It’s got that secret decoder thingy on it, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660/60 "2006-11-02T00:55:18Z")
> [@](#): > > **Cosmosdan** : We do need some extreme opinions just to liven things up occasionally but I sure do understand your frustration and the desire to vent. I would be surprised if most of us really object to extreme opinions if they are _honest_ opinions shared with civility. That’s not what we get from **BibleMan**. He cannot distinguish between fact and opinion. And in factual matters, he is a source of ignorance. That is not in keeping with the purpose of the SDMB. I know now that I am not the only one who has questioned whether it is a feigned ignorance or if possibly **BM** has two identities and argues with himself. What happens to a thread if a troll feeds a troll? (This is pure speculation on my part. I am not accusing.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bibleman-the-holy-spirit-wants-me-to-tell-you-youre-a-mealymouthed-lying-troll/378660.md?page=4)