# Biden 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 6, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023 "2016-12-06T15:14:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/21 "2016-12-06T17:34:25Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > He won’t run, but yeah, I think that’s too old for the rigors of office. I’m thinking they may put up Nikki Haley as someone who can bring in women, minorities, and men who think she’s hot. Um. Just to be clear, **Chefguy** … You think that the Democrats should run Republican Nikki Haley as their candidate in 2020? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/22 "2016-12-06T17:37:20Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Another big Joe Biden fan here, but Progressives need a more charismatic, younger candidate with less baggage. The problem with having a long record in public service is that there is more material available with which to savage the candidate. > > Booker’s great, but keep an eye on Gavin Newsom, too. He’ll be in the mix, I believe. If not in 2020, then 2024. We need more of these. I’ve always thought either one of these two would be fantastic candidates for POTUS. Much as I like Warren, she’s not going to have the same appeal. Like Bernie, she comes across as a bit too cranky. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/23 "2016-12-06T17:44:23Z")
Booker would be awesome. But keep your eye on California AG Kamala Harris. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/24 "2016-12-06T17:55:31Z")
Who defines “old” anymore? 80 year old John McCain just won re-election to another term as senator from Arizona. He’ll be 86 when his term expires. Although the implications of a president dying in office are much larger than from a senator dying in office and the rigors of the job are greater ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/25 "2016-12-06T18:59:32Z")
The challenge for the Dems in 2020 will be to find a candidate who can win, not necessarily who will make the best president. Winning the election is all that matters. I think Biden would have a great chance of winning in 2020. He might not make it through his term, but that doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/26 "2016-12-06T19:04:29Z")
I think Biden will be too old, too white, and too male for the Democratic Party in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/27 "2016-12-06T19:10:05Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Well I do and I’m sure a large portion of the electorate would too. This year I would have voted for him over Clinton or Trump but it wasn’t an option. 82 by the end of his first potential term? Too old. This is my feeling. Biden was my first choice this time around, but he didn’t run. I predict two things, first, Trump won’t rerun in 2020 and second, neither will Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/28 "2016-12-06T19:10:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **cochrane** : > > Who defines “old” anymore? 80 year old John McCain just won re-election to another term as senator from Arizona. Yes, as a senator. Senators are expected to be old. Heck, it’s the origin of the word: “Senator” is literally an old man (it’s the same root as “senior” and “senile”). ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/29 "2016-12-06T19:13:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > That’s a pretty tiny group (2, essentially, plus a few nobodies). The group wasn’t tiny. It was one. Then a non-democrat came in and messed up the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/30 "2016-12-06T19:18:09Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Booker would be awesome. But keep your eye on California AG Kamala Harris. You may be right. Now that she is going to the Senate we’ll see how prominent a position they give her. Of course you’ll have the strategists wringing their hands. Ethnic and a woman? Inconceivable. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/31 "2016-12-06T19:22:26Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The group wasn’t tiny. It was one. Then a non-democrat came in and messed up the narrative. It was two: Tommy Carcetti… err… Martin O’Malley was running against her as designated sacrificial lamb. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/32 "2016-12-06T19:34:05Z")
[Biden says, “I’m going to run in 2020”](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/05/biden-says-im-going-to-run-in-2020.html) ---
**Author:** ![Ruby\_Slippers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/94ad74/32.png) [@Ruby\_Slippers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby_Slippers)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/33 "2016-12-06T19:34:09Z")
I’ve liked Joe Biden since he was first elected to the Senate in 1972. I was working there at the time and remember how young he was. But now? I’m a lot older and so is he. The Democratic Party needs to spend the next 2 years developing younger candidates. I say 2 years because at the end of those 2 years, it should be just about time to start identifying potential candidates and building up a campaign. I like Cory Booker and the idea of Kamala Harris as one to watch is also a good one. How about the Castro twins? They seem to have a lot going for them. But let the Old Guard step aside and rest. If Biden feels energized, he can back someone and serve as a surrogate, but he’ll be too old to run for the office himself. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/34 "2016-12-06T19:41:22Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [Biden says, “I’m going to run in 2020”](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/05/biden-says-im-going-to-run-in-2020.html) Such a big font for such an unreliable source. He can say it now, but if I had to put money on it he won’t say it in six months. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/35 "2016-12-06T19:47:43Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > … such an unreliable source. Biden? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/36 "2016-12-06T20:04:04Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Biden? No, Faux News. Yes I know real news sites are saying much the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/37 "2016-12-06T20:04:45Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Biden? I love the guy’s style, but yeah, he’s “unreliable” when speaking off the cuff. (Or, to put a more positive spin on it, “unpredictable!”) I mean, according to the Fox link, he already backtracked to “not not running in 2020” pretty much immediately, right? Anyway, as a Democrat, I’d welcome him in the race (and the pre-pre-pre race we’re gonna start soon), but I wouldn’t vote for him in a primary unless it’s down to him and Joe Lieberman or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/38 "2016-12-06T21:30:50Z")
> [@snoe](#): > > IAnyway, as a Democrat, I’d welcome him in the race (and the pre-pre-pre race we’re gonna start soon), but I wouldn’t vote for him in a primary unless it’s down to him and Joe Lieberman or something like that. Ugh, is 2020 starting already? I still haven’t recovered from this latest clown show. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/39 "2016-12-06T21:46:22Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > No, Faux News. Yes I know real news sites are saying much the same thing. psst–don’t do that. It makes it difficult for real criticisms of Fox News to be heard when absurd criticisms like this are in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/40 "2016-12-06T22:04:14Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > psst–don’t do that. It makes it difficult for real criticisms of Fox News to be heard when absurd criticisms like this are in the mix. But if you tell him to stop it’ll make it less fun to needle him with sources he dislikes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023.md?page=3)