# Biden 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 6, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023 "2016-12-06T15:14:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/41 "2016-12-06T22:31:27Z")
I hope the HELL he doesn’t run ! The Democrats needs to find fresh blood and stop recycling their candidates ! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/42 "2016-12-06T22:35:38Z")
Would have preferred Biden this time, but no, sorry, he’ll be too old and we need younger leadership. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/43 "2016-12-06T23:30:23Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Um. Just to be clear, **Chefguy** … You think that the Democrats should run Republican Nikki Haley as their candidate in 2020? I noticed that long after the edit window closed and hoped nobody would notice :o . I think the Dems should try to get Kirsten Gillibrand to run. Serious, experienced, without Hillary’s baggage or Warren’s tendency to rant. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/44 "2016-12-06T23:43:36Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > When the Republicans did something like that, it [didn’t end well](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016). Well, they _did_ win… ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/45 "2016-12-07T00:09:42Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Booker would be awesome. But keep your eye on California AG Kamala Harris. That’s Senator Kamala Harris. 😃 She’s awesome, but I don’t fancy her running before completing her first Senate term. I’m worried that she peaks too early. She was born 1964, so she has plenty of time to choose the best time to run. The 2024 race looks much better for her, if there’s not a Democratic incumbent, or 2028 if there is. I’d be happy with her as the Vice Presidential candidate in 2020, though. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/46 "2016-12-07T00:57:22Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I don’t care about age any more. I hope he runs, in addition to plenty of other Democrats. Let’s have a great big primary with tons of candidates, and see who rises to the top. I still have a preference for younger rather than older, intelligent and quick on his mental feet in debates and arguments and explaining why he is for certain policies or ideas vs others. I want out candidate to be able to articulate the opposing view better than Trump ever could, build it up with such strength that there can be no doubt that they perfectly understand the view and its merits, and then proceed to tear it down and explain why his/her vision is the superior one. And for fucks sakes, someone who is honest and transparent, not trying to hide intentions and true beliefs and all that. The depressing part is that, I don’t know ANYONE who fits that bill. It sure as hell is not Corey Booker, or Gavin Newsom. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/47 "2016-12-07T03:17:27Z")
I’d only be concerned about age if the person shows obvious signs of slowing down mentally, or if the opponent is young. But if a 74-year old Trump is running for reelection it’s hard to imagine a better candidate to counter him than Biden. Younger is better if the younger person is ready for prime time, and a primary will suss that out, assuming primary voters actually pay attention and don’t just vote for the more famous guy. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/48 "2016-12-07T04:18:43Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Who defines “old” anymore? 80 year old John McCain just won re-election to another term as senator from Arizona. He’ll be 86 when his term expires. Although the implications of a president dying in office are much larger than from a senator dying in office and the rigors of the job are greater Yeah, but it’s Arizona. Half the population thinks of McCain as “that nice young man”… ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/49 "2016-12-07T05:09:21Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > She’s awesome, but I don’t fancy her running before completing her first Senate term. I’m worried that she peaks too early. She was born 1964, so she has plenty of time to choose the best time to run. The 2024 race looks much better for her, if there’s not a Democratic incumbent, or 2028 if there is. I’d be happy with her as the Vice Presidential candidate in 2020, though. Yes, I doubt Harris moves that soon but it is possible - Obama did. I imagine Newsom will be preoccupied with the CA governorship after Brown steps down in 2018. I see 2024 as more likely for both of them. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/50 "2016-12-07T14:20:17Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > I still have a preference for younger rather than older, intelligent and quick on his mental feet in debates and arguments and explaining why he is for certain policies or ideas vs others. I want out candidate to be able to articulate the opposing view better than Trump ever could, build it up with such strength that there can be no doubt that they perfectly understand the view and its merits, and then proceed to tear it down and explain why his/her vision is the superior one. > > And for fucks sakes, someone who is honest and transparent, not trying to hide intentions and true beliefs and all that. > > The depressing part is that, I don’t know ANYONE who fits that bill. It sure as hell is not Corey Booker, or Gavin Newsom. I’m not _that_ familiar with Booker, but from the assorted interviews and appearances I’ve seen, that description seems to fit him. I’d be curious as to what your objections are. (I’m even less familiar with Newsom). Maybe we could have a Booker/Duckworth ticket - you get an African-American, a Caucasian, a man, a woman, a disabled person; something for everyone! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/51 "2016-12-07T15:34:53Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I’m hoping for Tammy Duckworth. Biden could’ve won against Trump this cycle, but he won’t have a chance in 2020. > > Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk We don’t elect veterans anymore, I don’t like it, but there it is. They remind us of our failings. I guess some people would call George W. Bush a veteran because he was in the Texas air national guard but compared to the folks he had to run against (in the 2000 primary and the general), he was the a draft dodger. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/52 "2016-12-07T16:36:13Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [Biden says, “I’m going to run in 2020”](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/05/biden-says-im-going-to-run-in-2020.html) And promptly [walks it back last night](https://youtu.be/BoQzqQ9RUxs?t=252) when asked directly by Colbert. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/53 "2016-12-07T17:06:42Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > - you get an African-American, a Caucasian, a man, a woman, a disabled person; something for everyone! Reminds me of Bloom County’s presidential candidate Limekiller: “we’ve got a black, a woman, two dips and a cripple”. Or did I just get whooshed? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/54 "2016-12-07T19:02:12Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I think Biden will be too old, too white, and too male for the Democratic Party in 2020. Yeah, because the Democrats hate men and white people. Are you seriously listening to yourself? Yeah, the Republicans have turned themselves into a white-only club. That doesn’t mean the Democrats are the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/55 "2016-12-07T21:12:44Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Yeah, the Republicans have turned themselves into a white-only club. 28% of Hispanics 27% of Asian 8% of blacks Hardly white only. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/56 "2016-12-07T22:53:56Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Reminds me of Bloom County’s presidential candidate Limekiller: “we’ve got a black, a woman, two dips and a cripple”. > > Or did I just get whooshed? You realize that the Bloom County strip was making fun of actual real-life Secretary of the Interior James Watt, who infamously described the EPA’s coal-leasing board of the time as having “a black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple”, right? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/57 "2016-12-08T14:22:28Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I’m not _that_ familiar with Booker, but from the assorted interviews and appearances I’ve seen, that description seems to fit him. I’d be curious as to what your objections are. (I’m even less familiar with Newsom). Maybe we could have a Booker/Duckworth ticket - you get an African-American, a Caucasian, a man, a woman, a disabled person; something for everyone! In Duckworth you get a Caucasian and an Asian (her mother is Thai/Chinese). ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/58 "2016-12-08T15:00:07Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > In Duckworth you get a Caucasian and an Asian (her mother is Thai/Chinese). Duckworth would also be great because she actually was born and raised in Thailand (she didn’t move to Hawaii until she was 16). So we can have another exciting round of “is she even eligible to be President?”. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/59 "2016-12-08T15:26:56Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Duckworth would also be great because she actually was born and raised in Thailand (she didn’t move to Hawaii until she was 16). So we can have another exciting round of “is she even eligible to be President?”. Good times. And we all know who devious those Hawaiian officials are when it comes to birth certificates!! ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/60 "2016-12-08T21:47:50Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > The challenge for the Dems in 2020 will be to find a candidate who can win, not necessarily who will make the best president. Winning the election is all that matters. I think Biden would have a great chance of winning in 2020. He might not make it through his term, but that doesn’t matter. Well, you win when the Federal Reserve let you. Hillary was running in a down economy, which was guaranteed a year ago when the Fed raised interest rates prematurely. It’s hard to see how Trump can save the economy, which is good for Democrats now. Just nominate the best you can, because you can’t control which party wins; _only the central bank can do that._ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023.md?page=4)