# Biden 2020

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 6, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023 "2016-12-06T15:14:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/61 "2016-12-09T14:40:54Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Well, you win when the Federal Reserve let you. Hillary was running in a down economy, which was guaranteed a year ago when the Fed raised interest rates prematurely.
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> It’s hard to see how Trump can save the economy, which is good for Democrats now. Just nominate the best you can, because you can’t control which party wins; _only the central bank can do that._

Huh? The economy is doing just fine. Well enough that the Fed is likely to raise rates again at their next meeting.

What’s more likely is that if Trump passes the stimulus package that he’s promised, the economy is going to overheat, causing a lot of inflation.

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**Author:** ![NetTrekker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nettrekker/32/2909_2.png) [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/62 "2016-12-17T05:00:28Z")

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The Ohio guy that stood for House Democratic leader vs. Pelosi will be a candidate sooner than later, IMO, but probably not yet for 2020.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/63 "2016-12-17T05:28:37Z")

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Someone who challenges Nancy Pelosi from the left is probably not electable nationally. But we’ll see how he governs Ohio, since that seems to be what he’s aiming for.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/64 "2016-12-17T05:44:00Z")

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My guess is that when the dust settles and people start thinking seriously about the next election, they’re going to look at the success of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and the failure of Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Al Gore. The conclusion will be that competence alone can’t win a presidential election. They’ll be looking for a candidate who has a lot of personal charisma. Somebody who can win over voters with charm. And let’s face facts, that’s not going to be Joe Biden.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/65 "2016-12-17T05:50:27Z")

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And that would be a great way to lose by once again by fighting the last campaign.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/66 "2016-12-17T14:36:16Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> And that would be a great way to lose by once again by fighting the last campaign.

As I pointed out, it’s been a factor in the last seven campaigns.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/67 "2019-03-20T00:18:54Z")

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Updating this thread:

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> Biden tells supporters he’s planning to run for president: report  
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> Former Vice President Joe Biden reached out to several supporters Tuesday saying he intends to run for president in 2020, according to a new report.
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> The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday that Biden told his supporters that he was worried he would be unable to raise large sums of money in the hours following his announcement.

[https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/434829-biden-tells-supporters-hes-planning-to-run-for-president-report](https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/434829-biden-tells-supporters-hes-planning-to-run-for-president-report)

Wall Street Journal article:  
[https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-tells-supporters-he-plans-2020-bid-11553033380](https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-biden-tells-supporters-he-plans-2020-bid-11553033380)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/68 "2019-03-20T01:32:21Z")

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I think I’ve amply expressed my negative feelings about a Biden candidacy in posts 26, 40, and 45 of [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=872619), so I won’t clutter up this thread with them.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/69 "2019-03-20T02:34:23Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Trump will be the oldest person to begin their tenure as president at 70. Clearly, electing an older person as POTUS, isn’t an impediment to the electorate.
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> Biden is currently 74, so he would be 78 if elected in 2020.
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> Too old, or not a concern?

Not a concern at all for me. Age is one concern for a “potus to be”. Another is sanity. Another still is judgement. With the current clown in office it is clear that the major concerns don’t act as an impediment. So why should age? The worst he could do is die in office. Bring Biden on, and at the debates put boxing gloves on him and Trump.

ETA: Didn’t realize the zombie status of this thread, but my thought still stands.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/70 "2019-03-20T02:48:08Z")

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Biden should offer Trump his VP slot. The Republicans won’t know what hit them. I’m sure many times, Trump has glanced enviously at Pence and thought “Why isn’t that dummy golfing more? If I was VP, I’d golf a lot more.”

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/71 "2019-03-24T05:58:40Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m not sure everyone will be onboard with Biden unilaterally deciding to airdrop a state representative into the 2024 Presidential nominee slot. Yes, Abrams is a promising up and comer but hardly the obvious choice for two elections from now. If one term is his plan, there’s probably a better choice.

Duckworth.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/72 "2019-03-24T06:18:08Z")

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Please run Hillary again. Please, please, \*please \*run Hillary again!!!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/73 "2019-03-25T21:46:15Z")

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> [@carlb](#):
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> Joy Reid (subbing for Rachel Maddow) had a discussion last night about the Biden candidacy, and the rumors that he’s talking to Stacey Abrams about being his running mate. Word is that Biden is considering pledging that he would only serve one term as President; essentially he would come into office, do everything he could to restore functionality and normality to the Executive Branch (at least) and then step aside for a younger Democratic candidate (presumably Abrams).
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> I have to admit, I find a lot to like about this path. I am all about the Democratic Party elevating a younger generation of leadership, but given the chaos of the Trump administration, I find the idea of an old hand at the tiller for a few years very appealing.

I hadn’t heard this one, but if that’s the game plan, then NO. And this has nothing to do with the objections to Biden I’ve voiced in other threads; this is just as true if he’s everything his popular image is.

The impetus for change in domestic policy is always at its strongest when a new party first recaptures the White House. Then the first midterms come along and the opposition party picks up a bunch of seats, the President has less of a margin of error within his own caucus, and before you know it the President is looking to foreign policy for the rest of his accomplishments.

You don’t want to waste those first two years ‘restoring normalcy.’ Not if we want to pass major climate change legislation before it’s too late. Not if we want to get the minimum wage up where it ought to be. Not if we want universal health care. Not if we want to strengthen workers’ rights.

And of course, Biden won’t push to get rid of the filibuster, and if nobody’s pushing him, Schumer won’t do it. And if the filibuster remains, then Mitch will block every damned thing the Democrats try to do.

Trump is a serious problem. Mitch McConnell is a far worse problem, and he will hold his caucus together. Any Presidential candidate without a plan to deal with that reality isn’t worth bothering with.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/74 "2019-04-25T10:08:53Z")

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I’m not sure but I think Biden is running for president as of today: [https://www.instagram.com/joebiden/](https://www.instagram.com/joebiden/)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-2020/774023/75 "2019-04-25T11:39:15Z")

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Yes, he officially announced:

The core values of this nation… our standing in the world… our very democracy…everything that has made America – America --is at stake. That’s why today I’m announcing my candidacy for President of the United States. #Joe2020

https://www.youtube.com/embed/VbOU2fTg6cI?feature=oembed

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