# Biden arrested trying see Nelson Mandela? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 26, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523 "2020-02-26T00:42:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/21 "2020-02-27T18:26:37Z")
I find it fascinating how Biden is always criticized for his tall tales, but when he talks about getting the Prosecutor General of Ukraine fired that is taken as unquestionable gospel truth. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/22 "2020-02-27T18:41:56Z")
I find it fascinating how Biden is always criticized for his tall tales, but when he talks about getting the Prosecutor General of Ukraine fired that is taken as unquestionable gospel truth. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/23 "2020-02-27T18:52:02Z")
Did he come under sniper fire while he was doing it? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/24 "2020-02-27T20:09:43Z")
Oooh, Dennis Miller… look out! There’s a new rising star in conservative comedy! ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/25 "2020-02-27T23:06:39Z")
Don’t like the Washington Examiner, fine: [https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/02/25/joe\_biden\_is\_telling\_a\_false\_story\_about\_being\_arrested\_in\_south\_africa\_trying\_to\_see\_nelson\_mandela.html](https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/02/25/joe_biden_is_telling_a_false_story_about_being_arrested_in_south_africa_trying_to_see_nelson_mandela.html) Here is Biden saying it. And can we please have one fucking thread without bringing Trump into it? Let’s stipulate, for the purposes of this thread, that Trump is a ridiculously insane liar, okay? Now, is there any truth at all to this Biden statement? He says he was “arrested on the streets.” ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/26 "2020-02-28T00:34:06Z")
Using Firefox’s Ctrl-F option, I have found a total of three (3) instances of the offensive word in this thread. Here are all three, reddened by myself to stand out. > [@Kearsen1](#): > > … > Before I get jumped on for excusing **Trump** for lying or being stupid, it is entirely possible to hold both in contempt for stupidity and lying… > [@UltraVires](#): > > … And can we please have one fucking thread without bringing **Trump** into it? Let’s stipulate, for the purposes of this thread, that **Trump** is a ridiculously insane liar, okay? @ **UltraVires** - Instead of a general injunction, perhaps your remark should have been directed at **Kearsen1** specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/27 "2020-02-28T01:33:46Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Now, is there any truth at all to this Biden statement? He says he was “arrested on the streets.” What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/28 "2020-02-28T01:53:40Z")
I think this might be the proof we’ve all been afraid of that liberals are hypocrites. Many dopers of the past will sleep well tonight knowing their mission is finally complete. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/29 "2020-02-28T01:59:52Z")
To answer the question directly: he does it because he is someone who lies. I think he should be ashamed of telling such an obvious lie, but I know that’s never stopped people like that before. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/30 "2020-02-28T02:43:29Z")
Maybe he’s simply a victim of [the Mandela effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory). ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/31 "2020-02-28T04:21:10Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > I find it fascinating how Biden is always criticized for his tall tales, but when he talks about getting the Prosecutor General of Ukraine fired that is taken as unquestionable gospel truth. Him bragging about how he got the Prosecutor General of Ukraine fired is on video all over the internet. How you ever tried to find it to confirm for yourself that it actually happened? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UXA--dj2-CY/hqdefault.jpg "Joe Biden Brags about getting Ukranian Prosecutor Fired") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/32 "2020-02-28T14:23:38Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > Him bragging about how he got the Prosecutor General of Ukraine fired is on video all over the internet. How you ever tried to find it to confirm for yourself that it actually happened? > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY) Video of him saying he was arrested for trying to visit Mandela is also all over the Internet. So, I guess that happened too. Right? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/33 "2020-02-28T14:41:26Z")
Biden clarified this morning on CNN, saying the black delegates were being lead through the “Black Only” doors while he was being lead taken through “White Only” doors, of the terminal. He refused to be separated by the SA authorities so he corrected his previous statement from “arrested” to “stopped”… from being permitted to go with the rest of the US representatives. They reached a compromised and went in through a restaurant service entrance. So yeah, Biden didn’t exactly cover himself in glory with the initial lie or the subsequent correction. What a dumb thing to exaggerate about. Would it not have been better to tell the story as it really happened? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/34 "2020-02-28T21:53:44Z")
I propose that the mods change the title of the thread to: Presidential candidate admits error: is this unprecedented? ---
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/35 "2020-02-29T02:15:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I can see that honesty and personal integrity are important issues with you. So here’s what I recommend; next November you vote for the candidate who has told the fewest lies. That will almost certainly be one of the third-party candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/36 "2020-02-29T02:27:43Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Video of him saying he was arrested for trying to visit Mandela is also all over the Internet. So, I guess that happened too. > > Right? Are you saying the video is faked? ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/37 "2020-02-29T02:37:02Z")
> [@Tigers2B1](#): > > That will almost certainly be one of the third-party candidates. Nope. You won’t be able to vote at all. I am pretty sure there is no one running for any office at all who has told no lies, this year or any other year. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/38 "2020-02-29T03:04:04Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Maybe he’s simply a victim of [the Mandela effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory). Hah! Interesting coincidence. ---
**Author:** ![Tigers2B1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@Tigers2B1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tigers2B1)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/39 "2020-02-29T13:17:02Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Nope. You won’t be able to vote at all. I am pretty sure there is no one running for any office at all who has told no lies, this year or any other year. If the standard was no lies, which it wasn’t, I doubt anyone of us would be able to find someone. Mother Teresa died some time ago. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523/40 "2020-02-29T13:23:45Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Biden clarified this morning on CNN, saying the black delegates were being lead through the “Black Only” doors while he was being lead taken through “White Only” doors, of the terminal. He refused to be separated by the SA authorities so he corrected his previous statement from “arrested” to “stopped”… from being permitted to go with the rest of the US representatives. They reached a compromised and went in through a restaurant service entrance. > > So yeah, Biden didn’t exactly cover himself in glory with the initial lie or the subsequent correction. What a dumb thing to exaggerate about. Would it not have been better to tell the story as it really happened? [https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/politics/joe-biden-south-africa-arrest-cnntv/index.html) Wow. That’s positively amazing. So I guess when I checked into a hotel last week and they told me I couldn’t use the priority members check in, that I had to use a different line, the hotel placed me under arrest. This isn’t just a misstatement, it is an outright lie. Further, he earlier said he was arrested “on the streets of Soweto” not in an airport. He also said that the UN ambassador was arrested along with him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-arrested-trying-see-nelson-mandela/848523.md?page=3)