# Biden considering dropping out (Update: Biden drops out) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 3, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690 "2024-07-03T16:50:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/281 "2024-07-05T22:23:13Z")
Thanks for the article. Here’s a gift link in case anyone needs: > **[There Are Exceptionally Sharp Octogenarians. Biden Isn’t One.](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2024/07/biden-age-fluid-intelligence-octogenarian/678916/?gift=qoVYKEnA9ozErcQXrbRPsUce2HqNe00JOvvq2ZnZwW4&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > The president’s age isn’t his problem. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/282 "2024-07-05T22:40:04Z")
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/283 "2024-07-05T22:42:30Z")
> [@Oly](#): > > M. Obama checks all those boxes. And for what a couple recent polls are worth, she beats Tmp by \>10 points. She will not run. And I have not seen any such polls, the ones i saw had Michelle doing better than expected. > [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > The only other option the Democrats have is Kamala Harris, and she is not popular. To be charitable, she is dumb. Dumb? Attorney General of CA? Juris Doctor? US Senator? I have no doubt she is smarter than most of us. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/284 "2024-07-05T23:25:48Z")
Republicans think Dr. Phil and Mike Lindell are smart. Oh, yeah, Trump. They think Trump is smart. Man, woman, camera, tv. Aced it. Totally aced that test. Should have been awarded a degree or something for that one. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/285 "2024-07-05T23:39:00Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@colinfred](#): > > > > Yep, that’s a guy who is on top of the game, all right. > > I just don’t get stuff like this. You’re so busy catching Joe Biden for every slip of the tongue while completely ignoring the utter unfitness of his opponent. I think it’s instructive to try to see the candidates the way many voters see them – which is to say, dumbass voters who cannot see past the extremely superficial. I love Biden, but he does look pale, frail, and weak. Trump sprays himself with artificial tan and bellows like a moose. The dumbass now knows who to vote for. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/286 "2024-07-05T23:39:21Z")
Assuming your assertion is factual, all that says is that Republicans are not good at assessing intelligence. It doesn’t say anything about actual intelligence, and certainly not about Harris’s. Personally, I don’t see how Harris could get where she is if she were not very intelligent. But as a lot of us probably know very well, “intelligent” and “popular with John Q. Public” are not really overlapping skill sets. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/287 "2024-07-05T23:43:01Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > A press Q&A, town hall, whatever. Or **Sage\_Rat** ’s plopping a chair down anywhere in America. It sounds like a lot of requirements, but it’s something almost all politicians are capable of. It’s something most _functioning adults_ are capable of. > > He could have done this any day since the debate. It doesn’t require planning; in fact, planning _ruins_ the effect. I agree. And I’m sure that his political advisers are perfectly well aware of this as well. The fact that they haven’t arranged any sort of unscripted event over the last week and are only now letting him do a one-on-one interview with the friendliest interviewer possible suggests they don’t have much faith in Biden’s performance. Which . . . ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/288 "2024-07-05T23:48:15Z")
I usually make a donation for my choice candidate. I do it after the convention. I went ahead and made it, today. My drop in a bucket won’t do much but it made me feel like I’m doing what I can do. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/289 "2024-07-05T23:54:15Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > Personally, I don’t see how Harris could get where she is if she were not very intelligent. Remember Dan Quayle ? He also got to the same place as Harris. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/290 "2024-07-06T00:01:26Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Remember Dan Quayle ? Quayle wasnt stupid. But he was gaffe prone. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/291 "2024-07-06T00:02:52Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Quayle wasnt stupid. But he was gaffe prone In a way, not unlike Biden, historically (though Biden likely had stronger political skills). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/292 "2024-07-06T00:04:03Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > In a way, not unlike Biden, historically (though Biden likely had stronger political skills). Oh yeah- Biden was ready to be President, Quayle was not ready to be veep. But he wasnt stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/293 "2024-07-06T00:06:00Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Remember Dan Quayle ? > He also got to the same place as Harris. It’s not only what Harris has accomplished, it is the fact that she managed to get to and stay in places where she had the opportunities to accomplish those things without having white privilege or male privilege as Mr. Quayle did. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/294 "2024-07-06T00:15:09Z")
I would say this is the nail in the coffin but given how things are going it might not be metaphorical. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/295 "2024-07-06T00:18:06Z")
The Stephanopoulos interview is on now… ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/296 "2024-07-06T00:19:45Z")
FWIW: > **[Biden doubles down at Wisconsin rally: 'I'm staying in the race'](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/biden-wisconsin-rally-staying-in-2024-election-race-debate-rcna160417)** > > The president mocked Donald Trump for his own misstatements, including saying that George Washington's army won the revolution by taking over airports from the British. > President Joe Biden said Friday at a campaign rally in the key battleground state of Wisconsin that he’s staying in the 2024 presidential race and expressed confidence that he would beat former President Donald Trump, despite concerns about a disastrous debate performance last week. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/297 "2024-07-06T00:21:12Z")
It looks like he has another cold. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/298 "2024-07-06T00:21:18Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > > [@Dr.Drake](#): > > > > Personally, I don’t see how Harris could get where she is if she were not very intelligent. > > Remember Dan Quayle ? > He also got to the same place as Harris. So did Sarah Palin. All it takes is a candidate making opportunistic, poorly informed choices. But I’ve seen no evidence that Kamala Harris isn’t intelligent. The negative scuttlebutt is that she isn’t very popular. > [@DrDeth](#): > > Quayle wasnt stupid. But he was gaffe prone. I don’t know firsthand, obviously, but Quayle has almost as many unintentionally hilarious quotes attributed to him as George W. Bush. I think it’s a stretch to consider all of them “gaffes”. Are these the statements of an intelligent person? > What a waste it is to lose one’s mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is. > If we don’t succeed we run the risk of failure. > It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s the impurities in our air and water that are doing it He was also the object of Lloyd Bentsen’s devastating takedown during their debate, “Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy”. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/299 "2024-07-06T00:32:06Z")
My man is old. He’s a thousand times better for the country and our allies than Trump, but there’s no denying, my man is old. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/300 "2024-07-06T00:33:56Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Are these the statements of an intelligent person? > … > > > It isn’t pollution that’s harming the environment. It’s the impurities in our air and water that are doing it Which is worse? Saying that, or [repeating something that came from _MAD Magazine_](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dan_Quayle#Misattributed) as if it were a real quote? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690.md?page=16)