# Biden considering dropping out (Update: Biden drops out) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 3, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690 "2024-07-03T16:50:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 78
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1541 "2024-07-18T22:29:55Z")
Another thought, and this is just my personal opinion: I think seeing Biden resign and Harris become president will be _extremely demoralizing_ to the fascists. Why? It’s almost as if she will win a kind of election _before_ the election. IOW, she gets to be president and occupy that seat of triumph–just because! IO_other_W, they will think, “Biden doesn’t get to be president again–HAHA!–because we’re gonna beat 'im? Oh what the fuck, there’s a new Democratic president–right now?! A WOMAN!!! She didn’t even have to WIN, not fairrr. Oh fuckkkk!” They will cry and whine and it will be wonderful. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1542 "2024-07-18T22:30:50Z")
Yes, I was wrong. I will merely say that I think we have a strong chance of winning and I will work to that end. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1543 "2024-07-18T22:30:54Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Only if they animate his corpse for the last 30+ years of that time frame. What, you think Republicans are going to push their God Emperor to the side just because he’s too old? That’s Democrat behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1544 "2024-07-18T22:32:01Z")
You added to my thoughts, and I agree fully. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1545 "2024-07-18T22:33:21Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > What, you think Republicans are going to push their God Emperor to the side just because he’s too old? No, but “40 years” is extreme hyperbole. Hell, even 10 probably is. Trump is already 78, and is overweight, with a terrible diet, and serious anger-management issues. I have a difficult time seeing him living to 88, much less 118 (which would make him the oldest documented man ever). ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1546 "2024-07-18T22:39:30Z")
I’ll let y’all decide how solid a source that Twitter is. I think I recognize this name Mark Halperin though. Not sure what “Biden will not endorse Harris” means exactly. > > > Mark Halperin @MarkHalperin BREAKING NEWS: Multiples sources outline the apparent state of play on Biden at this time: - plans to announce withdrawal from nomination as early as this weekend, with Sunday most likely - Jon Meacham polishing up remarks - Biden with NOT resign the presidency - Biden will NOT endorse Harris - open convention with Harris and about 3 others - super delegates will not be allowed to vote on 1st ballot - Harris is vetting at least four possible running mates, including Andy Beshear and possibly Shapiro ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1547 "2024-07-18T22:40:06Z")
I don’t know if it’s covid or bad news but he can barely walk down the BELLY stairs of AF1 which is something like 12 steps. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1548 "2024-07-18T22:42:17Z")
Yeah, I think the chance of Trump being able to finish another term, considering the shape he is in currently, is approximately 0%. His cult member seem oblivious to his issues, however. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1549 "2024-07-18T22:43:15Z")
Trumpy will be bigly pissed if the headlines suddenly switch from him to Harris, expecially after the bestest RNC convention. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1550 "2024-07-18T22:43:16Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Trump is already 78, and is overweight, with a terrible diet, and serious anger-management issues. I have a difficult time seeing him living to 88, much less 118 (which would make him the oldest documented man ever). That’s where Crown Prince Barron steps in. > [@Velocity](#): > > I don’t see this at all, considering that Biden was already polling badly against Trump **before** the June debate. By which point the New York Times and Jon Stewart and Bill Maher were already openly plotting against him. > [@Aeschines](#): > > So I am influenced by fascist talking points and not judging Biden’s capability for myself? I watched the debate–one of the most painful, politics-centered moments of my life. One of the very anti-Trump psychologists I quoted in another thread said it was like watching Trump win in 2016. I had the same feeling. Devastation. If you watched the debate and your takeaway was “I guess the blatant lies Trump has been telling about Biden for 5 years now were right all along”, then yes. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1551 "2024-07-18T22:43:22Z")
Sure, but on a somewhat unrelated note, I could see some feminists being upset about the first woman president in US history rising to that office not by votes, but by promotion-via-resignation. Kind of robs the moment of its historic glory. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1552 "2024-07-18T22:43:33Z")
This plan, if true, is dumb and more Biden vanity. Not endorse Harris?! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1553 "2024-07-18T22:46:24Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > This plan, if true, is dumb and more Biden vanity. Not endorse Harris?! . Yeah, that’s bizarre. I’m hoping the reporting is flawed. If not: doesn’t he care about his legacy at all? I guess we’ve all heard that Jill Biden carries a grudge against Harris due to things Harris said during the 2020 primaries. Okay, but even if so… ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1554 "2024-07-18T22:47:58Z")
I think if he gets out then we can get through this. But one has really seen his character flaws, including stubbornness, on display lately. I hope that shit isn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1555 "2024-07-18T22:48:29Z")
BUT she does get to win _immediately_–so wouldn’t it be the best of both worlds? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1556 "2024-07-18T22:49:58Z")
Not sure if this was posted, but it looks like things are circling around the sink drain. > **['We're close to the end': Biden world braces for the possibility that the...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/were-close-end-biden-world-191219107.html)** > > 'We're close to the end': Biden world braces for the possibility that the president steps aside ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1557 "2024-07-18T22:51:04Z")
> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#): > > open convention with Harris and about 3 others I’m not sure that everyone understands how a party candidate gets on the ballot. I’d guess that many people think it’s their vote that gets that person on the ballot. If three candidates are voted on at the convention, I would expect a lot of low-info voters would resent that they didn’t get to cast a vote for the candidates. They could feel like the election was stolen from them. I’d expect the Republicans to amplify the message that the Dems are destroying away democracy by doing backroom deals to pick a candidate rather than letting the people decide. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1558 "2024-07-18T22:52:29Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > But one has really seen his character flaws, including stubbornness, on display lately. Yeah. As you said, if he gets out this stuff will fade away. And of course some of it could be ascribed to known effects of aging on the brain (stubbornness, combativeness and so on). He should think on the example of Nancy Pelosi. She stepped aside voluntarily and thereby made herself a respected elder who is still vitally significant to her party. Her advice is sought, her wisdom celebrated, and her legacy lauded. That could be Joe. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1559 "2024-07-18T22:52:31Z")
If Biden drops out, the ONLY possible candidate would be Kamala Harris. They cannot skip over her. So it looks, to me, like it will end up being Donald Trump against Kamala Harris. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/1560 "2024-07-18T22:55:14Z")
And she would absolutely rip his lies apart in the debates. She was a former prosecutor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690.md?page=77) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690.md?page=79)