# Biden considering dropping out (Update: Biden drops out) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [July 3, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690 "2024-07-03T16:50:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 482
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/482 "2024-07-08T19:24:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > There are no facts right now that could tell us anything concretely, only polls which are already nigh-meaningless this early and have recently been quite deceptive. How about the polls that compare voter support for Biden as compared with voter support for Senate candidates? In those battleground states holding Senate races, Biden does consistently worse than the Democratic Senate candidates. (Linked post showing the numbers and cited sources, below.) If we want to disregard ‘Biden v Trump’ polls, I guess we can. But it would still be worth asking why Biden was doing so much better at this same time in 2020 against Trump than he is now. If polls are unreliable, shouldn’t the numbers from 2020 and 2024 be about the same? (In other words, if a bias is there in 2024, why wasn’t it there in 2020? It doesn’t appear that the tech involved, such as landlines versus cellphones, has changed in that time.) 2020 v 2024: [post 418 in this thread–I may not be able to link due to the software: > [@](#): > > 538 showed Biden led Trump by 9.6 percent, in the rolling polling average, on July 7, 2020. Today, July 7, 2024, Biden trails by 2.3 percent. So — Biden is running about 11 points behind where he needs to be even to have a 50-50 chance of winning. . . . Senate v Presidential polling in battleground states: > [@Stop Panicking!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/473): > > I believe it is, but then I believe that upcoming polls will show that Congressional Democrats’ numbers are being negatively affected by the debate debacle. And as many have said, if it’s clear that Biden is dragging down Dem tickets, then many in Congress will call for him to step down. Recall that BEFORE the debate, Biden was performing worse than Democrats in Senate races in those battleground states holding Senate races: SENATE races: … … … … … … … … … … … … … … … Biden v.Trump: WISCON… --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690)._