# Biden considering dropping out (Update: Biden drops out)

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**Created:** [July 3, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690 "2024-07-03T16:50:05Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-considering-dropping-out-update-biden-drops-out/1003690/680 "2024-07-10T19:11:37Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Very nice of you to think so, but it is simply not true.

Do you need to be spoon fed?

> [@2024 Presidential general election: How large and critical is the "unengaged voter" cohort?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-presidential-general-election-how-large-and-critical-is-the-unengaged-voter-cohort/1003776/8):
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> I do not know the number of unengaged voters. But, related to this, I think we will again see record turnout this November due to: — The drama seen whenever Trump runs — The drama of Biden’s apparent medical situation (whether or not he drops out) — RFK Jr attracting some who hardly ever vote As to how critical? Anything is critical if the election is close. Here’s the effect: [Thr Unusual Turnout Dynamic](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/29/politics/turnout-2024-election-analysis/index.html)

[Link](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/29/politics/turnout-2024-election-analysis/index.html) provided by @PhillyGuy. Discussed in other threads too and no I want go fetch them for you.

Now how about a cite to back up your belief that there are no voters who “lean” Trump? Only MAGA voters and those deciding between staying home or Biden?

I think a 2020 Biden would have a reasonable chance of pulling this election out of the shitter. Given that it increasingly seems to me that debate Biden is 2024 Biden such a turnaround seems to me to be vanishingly improbable. It’s a low bar to be better of a chance than that.

Still my Harris analysis is not completely of no basis. The vote against Trump by engaged voters is the same. Misogynists and Jew haters (husband is enough for crafty Jews) were never voting D. Pick up some who were staying home because they are scared by Biden’s feebleness. Stop some in engaged Trump leaners from bothering because now they are not voting against Biden. Rev up woman and Black turnout some. Current polling before a convention before she is the candidate is uninformative. She does Biden numbers plus some. Plus enough? Unsure. But she is at the attack than current Biden is.

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