# Biden Getting Ready To Step Aside? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023 "2008-09-10T23:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/21 "2008-09-11T02:36:34Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Well, he _did_ refer to a female reporter as “sweetie.” My God, had he been a Republican that would’ve been the end of his campaign right there. But of course as a liberal Democrat he gets a total pass. > [http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?content\_id=13d1f66a-488b-46d3-9d3b-6632e0a8f1f7](http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?content_id=13d1f66a-488b-46d3-9d3b-6632e0a8f1f7) What bizarro world are you living in, dude? ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/22 "2008-09-11T03:12:41Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > What bizarro world are you living in, dude? One in which there are clearly double standards for conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Bob Packwood) and liberals (Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/23 "2008-09-11T03:20:58Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > One in which there are clearly double standards for conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Bob Packwood) Packwood was a moderate-to-liberal, and your grouping him with Thomas is a bit odd, as Packwood opposed Thomas ([cite](http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=102&session=1&vote=00220)) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/24 "2008-09-11T03:30:03Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > One in which there are clearly double standards for conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Bob Packwood) and liberals (Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy). :rolleyes: Oh, yeah, remember how Eliot Spitzer remained in office and nobody said anything, while David Vitter and Larry Craig were viciously and unceremoniously booted out of Congress? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/25 "2008-09-11T06:03:00Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > One in which there are clearly double standards for conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Bob Packwood) and liberals (Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy). :rolleyes: You think what Thomas did is no worse than calling a reporter sweetie? :rolleyes: If cheating on your wife was a disqualification from office, the Republicans would have to look for a new candidate. Remember what happened when they pulled this stunt last time? Half the Republican leadership was revealed to be messing around. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/26 "2008-09-11T06:04:15Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > I suspect that this is pure reaction to the surprisingly somewhat-positive reaction to Palin. I’d imagine that the Dems (like many of us) thought (still think) the Palin pick was a gamble, a reach, an obvious pander. I think there is another context - the woman who was in the Democratic race was actually qualified to be president - unlike Ms. Knownothing. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/27 "2008-09-11T06:48:04Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I think there is another context - the woman who was in the Democratic race was actually qualified to be president - unlike Ms. Knownothing. Well Governor Palin has balanced a state budget and cut spending. She’s running as Vice President. Senator Obama has no executive experience at all and has spent most of his first term running for President. The Republicans have more experience with their Vice Presidential candidate than the Democrats have with their presidential candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Aquila\_Be](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a698b9/32.png) [@Aquila\_Be](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquila_Be)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/28 "2008-09-11T09:20:39Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > Not a chance. I think Biden is going to kick the shit out of Palin first time they debate. I haven’t seen Palin debate but I have seen clips of Biden in action. He’s as sharp as a marble. So, Palin’s worse, eh?🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/29 "2008-09-11T10:30:04Z")
Wow, it’s weird to see someone else post this. My friend (a conservative) told me with absolute conviction that (he seemed to suggest it had something to do with the brilliance of the Sarah Palin pick) Obama’s team would find some excuse for Biden to step down. Has anything like that ever happened? Even if a VP turns out not to be the ideal choice, under any circumstance other than some major scandal I would think that replacing the VP candidate would be seen as a sign of weakness and be a greater liability than keeping them. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/30 "2008-09-11T10:34:37Z")
> [@Aquila\_Be](#): > > I haven’t seen Palin debate but I have seen clips of Biden in action. He’s as sharp as a marble. > > So, Palin’s worse, eh?🙂 I think Biden will just fine. And yes, i think Palin is going to be worse…We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/31 "2008-09-11T10:54:03Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > I think Biden will just fine. And yes, i think Palin is going to be worse…We’ll see. When their debate comes up, there’ll be massive expectations for Palin, and few for Biden. If he does as much as hold his own he’ll be seen as the victor and to have popped her bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/32 "2008-09-11T14:26:24Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Definitely getting ready to step aside. And McCain is forked and is really just going through the motions…as his pick of Palin clearly demonstrates! > > Also, it was the government who brought DOWN THE TOWERS!! Oh yeah, and let’s talk about those aliens… > > -XT Got any straw left? ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/33 "2008-09-11T14:39:43Z")
> [@jackdavinci](#): > > Obama’s team would find some excuse for Biden to step down. Has anything like that ever happened? In 1972, George McGovern’s first VP choice, Thomas Eagleton stepped down. Not for anything major though. Just that he’d had electroshock therapy a number of times in his past! ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/34 "2008-09-11T14:46:09Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > Got any straw left? There’s a difference between straw and sarcasm. I don’t think Biden is going anywhere. What on earth would Obama have to gain by picking Hillary at this point? It would be so blatantly political it would make McCain’s pick look like the most thought-out well reasoned pick in history. Think about the groups both candidates are trying to reach: - The so called PUMAs, aka the die hard Hillary supporters. It boggles the imagination that even one of these people would vote for McCain and Pro-Rape-Babies Palin just because there’s a woman on the ticket. They don’t just want any woman, they want Hillary. - The idiot voter. McCain is doing well reaching out to the idiots so far, especially with the whole “Barack called my soulmate a pig!” bullplop. If Barack wants to get the idiots back on his side, Hillary isn’t going to help. They hate her, although they’re not sure why. Good ol’ average fella Joe is much better to appeal to them. - The hardcore religious righty Republican. There may be some overlap with the above group and this one. These folks were iffy about McCain before, but are apparently coming out in droves now that one of their own is on the ticket. Still, there may be some mistrust with McCain, so they may not all be flooding to the polls to pull his lever. But if Hillary was on the other side, they’ll be lining up weeks in advance to vote for McCain like it was a Jeff Gordon signing. There’s only one thing they hate more than France and PBS, and that’s Hllary Clinton. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/35 "2008-09-11T15:19:16Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Well, he _did_ refer to a female reporter as “sweetie.” My God, had he been a Republican that would’ve been the end of his campaign right there. But of course as a liberal Democrat he gets a total pass. > [http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?content\_id=13d1f66a-488b-46d3-9d3b-6632e0a8f1f7](http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?content_id=13d1f66a-488b-46d3-9d3b-6632e0a8f1f7) Obama admitted it was wrong and called up the reporter and apologized for that. Obama didn’t give himself a pass and made it right. Meanwhile see the discussion about how McCain misrepresented Obama’s legislation to teach kids how to recognize sexual abuse and what to do about it as “sex ed for kindergartners”. See the discussion at [Despicable: McCain & child sexual predators - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482603). McCain would apparently prefer to enable pedophiles. And how is McCain for “change” when he sided with Bush’s incompetence 90% of the time? (percentage is from the coward McCain’s own words). The fool is a flip flopper on a grand scale a 100 times worse then any perceived complaint about Kerry You can call Democrats hypocrites, but it takes McCain the Republican to show what true hypocrisy is. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/36 "2008-09-11T15:55:39Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > One in which there are clearly double standards for conservatives (Clarence Thomas, Bob Packwood) and liberals (Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy). :rolleyes: Bill Clinton got a pass? You mean the part where his peccadillo was made public and front page news for months and he was impeached by Congress? That pass? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/37 "2008-09-11T15:56:19Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > they’ll be lining up weeks in advance to vote for McCain like it was a Jeff Gordon signing. And people wonder why liberals are alleged to be elitiists. You do understand that plenty of “hardcore religious righties” have no interest in NASCAR and may actually have read as much as you in reaching their conclusions? Or is it just more convenient to play the “I’m smart my opponent is a stupid redneck” game? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/38 "2008-09-11T16:07:37Z")
McCain made a joke that Chelsea Clinton is “so ugly because her father is Janet Reno.” Total media pass. Imagine the reaction if Obama had said it. McCain gets passes on his adultery, his wife abandonment, the Keating 5, calling his wife a cunt, his wife stealing from her own charity to support her drug habit, laughing when an audience member asked him “how do you beat the bitch?” (in reference to Hillary). Th list goes on. Obama’s campaign would be destroyed for any one of those things. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/39 "2008-09-11T16:10:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > McCain made a joke that Chelsea Clinton is “so ugly because her father is Janet Reno.” Total media pass. Because it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023/40 "2008-09-11T16:13:24Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > Not a chance. I think Biden is going to kick the shit out of Palin first time they debate. I agree, that’s a pretty sure bet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-getting-ready-to-step-aside/463023.md?page=3)