# Biden: I will not legalize marijuana (This just cost him the election) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 18, 2019, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631 "2019-11-18T23:17:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/41 "2019-11-19T02:18:01Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > It hurts Biden a bit in the primaries. I know quite a few people that would be likely Biden voters but have to enforce Reagan era drug free workplace laws even for the guy crunching numbers on a spreadsheet. Has ‘gateway drug’ even been used since Nancy Reagan left the White House? > > I don’t see Trump coming out in favor though. He knows his base has a lot of evangelicals. It depends on what his staffers tell him to do. They’ll look at the research like that recent pew study that was showing 49% of boomer republican ssupporting legal marijuana, and over 50% of genX republicans supporting it. Trump holds no concrete positions as we all know. Theres a very real possibility that his campaign decides to pull the trigger on legalizing marijuana, and knowing the trump cultists, they will follow him to death even if it means legalizing weed even if they disagreed with it their entire lives they will change their mind for him. I forget the study but there was one I saw that said something along the lines of majority of trump supporters cannot think of anything that would change their mind to vote for trump. Basically trump is immune, he can do whatever he wants and his base will follow, and ofc the republicans will follow too because they want to line their pockets. Edit: To emphasize this point, In trumps book he advocated for Universal Healthcare, citing it would be good for businesses and increase employee wages. He even hinted at support for universal healthcare during the 2016 campaign. Yet he changed his position he held for years instantly overnight because his camp calculated it would be a good move. So if they do the same for weed, if he thinks he can pull those independent and fake dems, he’s going to do it, and it’ll work imo. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/42 "2019-11-19T02:21:10Z")
Biden did not backtrack. His position remains the same as he made out six months ago as I posted above. It did not register outrage then. His position is pretty identical to the position Hillary Clinton took and it didn’t cost her in the primary. And in the GE Donald Trump did not go as far as her stance on marijuana. He generally ducked the questions never taking beyond state rights. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/43 "2019-11-19T03:28:34Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > I hope it does beat Biden in the primaries, but I’ll still be voting Not Trump come Election Day. > > I fear for Warren’s chances and I know Sanders can’t win the Primary. Is the country ready for Buttigieg? Small city, very young, would be the youngest President ever. First gay President. But he is moderate without being a doddering old fool like Biden. He is a Vet, that should help I hope. Why do you feel Sanders can’t win the primary? The liberal vote is pretty strongly for him or warren and liberals make up about half of democratic voters. That alone should give him a good chance. Liberals (and tea party conservatives) are overrepresented in politics. I think liberals make up 10% of the public, but they make up 16% of registered voters and 25% of actual voters (ie, they get more involved in politics). So you’d assume in primaries they are if anything higher than 50% of democratic voters. Black voters make up about 1/4 of democratic voters. They don’t connect with Sanders, they prefer Biden more. Which is fine. I ‘think’ the other 1/4 of democratic voters are latinos, moderate democrats, etc. They may not prefer Sanders but like black people I am sure they’d vote for him over Trump in a general. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/44 "2019-11-19T03:38:49Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > Why do you feel Sanders can’t win the primary? The liberal vote is pretty strongly for him or warren and liberals make up about half of democratic voters. That alone should give him a good chance. Liberals (and tea party conservatives) are overrepresented in politics. I think liberals make up 10% of the public, but they make up 16% of registered voters and 25% of actual voters (ie, they get more involved in politics). So you’d assume in primaries they are if anything higher than 50% of democratic voters. > > Black voters make up about 1/4 of democratic voters. They don’t connect with Sanders, they prefer Biden more. Which is fine. > > I ‘think’ the other 1/4 of democratic voters are latinos, moderate democrats, etc. They may not prefer Sanders but like black people I am sure they’d vote for him over Trump in a general. There is a core group of Dems that just see Sanders as a carpetbagger and that he helped get Trump elected. I am quite confident he can’t get majority support even in a brokered convention situation. I see zero point in addressing your vague yet specifically numbered demographic recollections and ruminations. ---
**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/45 "2019-11-19T03:53:51Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > There is a core group of Dems that just see Sanders as a carpetbagger and that he helped get Trump elected. I am quite confident he can’t get majority support even in a brokered convention situation. > > I see zero point in addressing your vague yet specifically numbered demographic recollections and ruminations. That core group is referred to as the establishment. Those voters are referred to as low informed, and or centrist. Sanders didn’t help Trump get elected, on the contrary the DNC rigging their primaries against sanders, the media sweeping him under the rug while giving Trump billions in free air time, is what gave Trump the win. If they had pushed Sanders instead of Hillary, we would not have lost 2016. Also how confident are you? Are you willing to place money on that? Personally, I have. So which one of us is more confident? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/46 "2019-11-19T04:52:52Z")
> [@Barack\_Obama](#): > > That core group is referred to as the establishment. > > Those voters are referred to as low informed, and or centrist. > > Sanders didn’t help Trump get elected, on the contrary the DNC rigging their primaries against sanders, the media sweeping him under the rug while giving Trump billions in free air time, is what gave Trump the win. If they had pushed Sanders instead of Hillary, we would not have lost 2016. > > Also how confident are you? Are you willing to place money on that? Personally, I have. So which one of us is more confident? That’s nice and all but I wasn’t referring to the merits of the case. People feel this even though they’ve probably seen your argument in some form. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/47 "2019-11-19T05:14:30Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I think Biden is under the impression that he’s appealing to flyover country rednecks. I won’t rule out that Biden is one of those semi-mythical politicians whose publicly stated opinions are his … _actual personal opinions!_ ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/48 "2019-11-19T05:23:36Z")
I’m an undecided Democratic voter in Michigan. I 100% support the legalization of weed, and voted for it in the recent statewide referendum to legalize it. This “announcement” by Biden doesn’t make me any less likely to vote for him in either the primary or general. In fact, I suspect most people who “favor” it just don’t give a shit about marijuana, but don’t think it makes sense to criminalize it any more. Anecdotally speaking, that’s my take on it, and that was the reason my 72-year-old evangelical Democrat mom voted to legalize it too. I have no plans to smoke or otherwise ingest it after it becomes legal here for recreational use on December 1. In addition, most cities across Michigan, despite overwhelming support from voters for legalizing it, are still banning retail locations. And that tells me that just because people are good with legalizing it doesn’t mean people are clamoring for it, either for their own personal use or as a campaign talking point. This has cost Biden basically nothing imo. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/49 "2019-11-19T05:43:51Z")
(in Maurey’s voice from Big Mouth) Stupid oldie. Meanwhile these watermelon flaved gummy bears are making me fully desire the samples we got from the government in the ‘80s. Right, Connie? Connie: Oh, hell yeah, ya grey-haired lovin-boy toy. Mmm-mmm, old Biden be competin’ with Mommy-lovin’ Pencey-poo only for an extra blanket. And it got all them capital Ts all over it. Smells like old vodka and baaaaad steak. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/50 "2019-11-19T07:29:36Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > I’m an undecided Democratic voter in Michigan. I 100% support the legalization of weed … I have no plans to smoke or otherwise ingest it after it becomes legal here for recreational use on December 1. I recall reading about some Dutch people who never smoked weed at home, where it’s legal, but smoked it as tourists in the U.S. just for the thrill of doing something illegal! ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/51 "2019-11-19T11:10:21Z")
> [@Barack\_Obama](#): > > That core group is referred to as the establishment. > > Those voters are referred to as low informed, and or centrist. > > Sanders didn’t help Trump get elected, on the contrary the DNC rigging their primaries against sanders, the media sweeping him under the rug while giving Trump billions in free air time, is what gave Trump the win. If they had pushed Sanders instead of Hillary, we would not have lost 2016. > > Also how confident are you? Are you willing to place money on that? Personally, I have. So which one of us is more confident? Black voters overwhelmingly voted for Hillary over Bernie. And they form the bulk of Biden’s support as represented by his numbers in the Southern states. I would be very careful about using the expression “low informed voters”. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/52 "2019-11-19T12:06:16Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > If I’m reading [his tweet](https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1196577576644415489) right, he doesn’t think anybody should be in jail for pot use, he favors medical marijuana in all cases, and he favors letting states decide on recreational use. OK, I retract my previous post, which was purely a response to the OP, and I now see that the title misrepresented what Biden said. It made it sound like he wanted no changes at all to existing federal law. Decriminalizing cannabis (not legalizing), removing it from Schedule 1 which essentially deems it a dangerous narcotic, and leaving legalization decisions to the individual states, is in my view exactly the right thing to do. FTR, the present legal status of cannabis in federal law is largely due to the aforementioned Harry Anslinger, who back in the 20s and early 30s had been head of Prohibition enforcement and was a self-serving racist asshole looking for something to do when Prohibition inevitably ended. Suffice it to say that this is [one of his more famous quotes](https://timeline.com/harry-anslinger-racist-war-on-drugs-prison-industrial-complex-fb5cbc281189): “_Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men. There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others._” The Schedule 1 classification of cannabis, the same classification as heroin, is largely due to the legacy of Harry Anslinger. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/53 "2019-11-19T13:45:17Z")
> [@Barack\_Obama](#): > > Now let’s say, Biden vs Trump it’s 2020, and we’re in a heated election. Trump goes on stage and says, you know what? Let’s legalize marijuana. Guess what? He just got a huge bump of support for that comment. And he just pulled a lot of voters to his side even ones who dislike him greatly just because he wants to in theory legalize marijuana. All trump has to do is run on this, and what little division in his base there will be over this can be squashed by him leading the reigns and making claims about how good for the economy it would be, hell he could even bring up immigration and tie legalization into killing cartel profits. Are you saying that supporters of legal marijuana are so out of it (for reasons I shall not imply) that they will vote for the Muslim ban guy who was impeached by the House in hopes that Trump doesn’t backtrack on his transparent and lame attempt at triangulation? Talk about low information voters. ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Kearsen1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen1)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/54 "2019-11-19T13:57:25Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Ok, I agree that calling it a gateway drug (well, questioning if it may be) is kinda dumb. But the position he has taken is still a massive move forward and would make state legalization much more meaningful. I stand by my initial impression: A pot supporter should not be crying about it. Insofar as it currently stands, weed IS a gateway drug. It is usually the first drug any drug user tries. It gets them in the door. Some happen to move on to other drugs. Some never do. But as a gateway to illegal drug use, weed is most folks first step. Legalizing weed would remove the gateway aspect to drugs because it is no longer the first baby step to potentially harder drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/55 "2019-11-19T14:39:32Z")
> [@Barack\_Obama](#): > > Support for legalization of recreational marijuana is at an all time high > [Two-thirds of Americans support marijuana legalization | Pew Research Center](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/11/14/americans-support-marijuana-legalization/) > > Americans overwhelmingly support legalization of marijuana, and not just medical either, more people support legalization of recreational AND medical. Over 2/3rds of the country supports legalization. Marijuana ties into many other critical issues, such as criminal justice, immigration, and healthcare. > > I believe this is going to absolutely kill Biden off in the primaries, sure he’ll still sit in the top 3 for sometime, but like before thats only because the low informed people who are more likely to go to polls, know his name and know his face. When he comes out and makes his positions more public, it hurts him. Doubling down on Obamacare, that hurts him on the left, and right. Not supporting legal marijuana, that hurts him on the left greatly, and even the right. 55% of gen X republicans and 49% of boomer republicans support legalizing marijuana. > > Now let’s say, Biden vs Trump it’s 2020, and we’re in a heated election. Trump goes on stage and says, you know what? Let’s legalize marijuana. Guess what? He just got a huge bump of support for that comment. And he just pulled a lot of voters to his side even ones who dislike him greatly just because he wants to in theory legalize marijuana. All trump has to do is run on this, and what little division in his base there will be over this can be squashed by him leading the reigns and making claims about how good for the economy it would be, hell he could even bring up immigration and tie legalization into killing cartel profits. And he would be right. Biden is handing this position to trump on a silver platter just waiting for it to blow up in his face. > I have 0 clue how you can be an old ass boomer who’s been involved in politics his entire life, and not realize how much of a fuck up going out and saying this is. Is anyone here going to argue we should be running candidates who still think marijuana is a gateway drug and shouldn’t be legalized? His thinking will evolve on this just like Obama’s thinking on gay marriage. He loses almost no votes for saying this (seriously, no one is going to go from Biden to Trump over this, noone) and he gains electability in exurb/rural areas. Suck it up. I’m voting for the democrat even though they all support stupid forms of gun control. If you want a candidate that agrees with you on everything, you have to run. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/56 "2019-11-19T14:53:43Z")
> [@Kearsen1](#): > > Insofar as it currently stands, weed IS a gateway drug. It is usually the first drug any drug user tries. It gets them in the door. Some happen to move on to other drugs. > Some never do. But as a gateway to illegal drug use, weed is most folks first step. > > Legalizing weed would remove the gateway aspect to drugs because it is no longer the first baby step to potentially harder drugs. There was a rise in cocaine and heroin use during prohibition. Illegal drugs are the gateway to other illegal drugs. Legalize alcohol and all of a sudden speakeasies no longer want to jeopardize their liquor license by selling cocaine. Organized crime no longer has a line of customers coming to them for one drug, giving them an opportunity to sell other drugs. OTOH. legalizing (and taxing) weed increases consumption. High taxes means that the legal weed will be better quality because the tax per gram is so high the retail difference between ditch weed and humbolt county skunk becomes negligible. So the ditch weeds gets sold on the street for 1980’s prices because the cost of doing business is limited to loss of product and a misdemeanor (like selling unstamped cigarettes). Noone is going to kill you over it. Lower prices = higher consumption. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/57 "2019-11-19T14:55:55Z")
> [@Barack\_Obama](#): > > People won’t support Pete over Bernie because he doesn’t want M4A. Plus the issues of racism in his hometown will come back to haunt him anytime he gets a lift in polling. Trump would kneecap him, i can see him coining the term “Racist Pete”. There’s a lot of people that are not sure that M4A is the best next step. A public option seems more palatable to a lot of people that already have private health insurance. Disclosure, I don’t really support Butigieg, I support whoever can deliver the most decisive electoral victory over Trump. I don’t want to win by a little bit, I want the win to be so overwhelming that no one will ever be tempted to nominate someone like him again. If that candidate is someone that I disagree with on 40% of the issues, then so be it. ---
**Author:** ![Barack\_Obama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dc4da7/32.png) [@Barack\_Obama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barack_Obama)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/58 "2019-11-19T17:17:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > There’s a lot of people that are not sure that M4A is the best next step. A public option seems more palatable to a lot of people that already have private health insurance. > > Disclosure, I don’t really support Butigieg, I support whoever can deliver the most decisive electoral victory over Trump. I don’t want to win by a little bit, I want the win to be so overwhelming that no one will ever be tempted to nominate someone like him again. If that candidate is someone that I disagree with on 40% of the issues, then so be it. Wait is this an argument about what you think voters will support, or which is better? For the former, last polls I saw had M4A over 60% and for the latter under Bernie’s M4A bill you’d have all the coverage your insurance provides probably more and you would see more money in your pocket when you subtract the cost of your private healthcare from what tax increase you probably will see. All grey area coverage and cosmetics would get picked up by private insurance. Pete recently got boo’d for making the bogus claim of having an option of M4A or not. Voters who aren’t dedicated to a certain candidate understand the nuance, you either diminish priv reliance or you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/59 "2019-11-19T19:05:27Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I am a pot supporter, though happily in Canada. Biden’s position is a perfectly reasonable major step forward in how the US deals with marijuana and seems to sweep away the problems of prohibition. If I was voting in the primaries this wouldn’t cost him my support in any way. Yes, very reasonable. Taking these steps:No one should be in jail for marijuana -Decriminalize and expunge records -Legalize medical - Allow states to legalize -Remove from schedule 1 to allow research Will more or less legalize it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631/60 "2019-11-19T19:10:34Z")
> [@Barack\_Obama](#): > > … > Sanders didn’t help Trump get elected, on the contrary the DNC rigging their primaries against sanders, the media sweeping him under the rug while giving Trump billions in free air time, is what gave Trump the win. If they had pushed Sanders instead of Hillary, we would not have lost 2016. > …? This is why most of us Dems don’t support Sanders. The whole “we wuz robbed, the elections were rigged” ignores the fact that the POPULAR vote was overwhelmingly in Hillarys favor. It also ignores the fact that the Kremlin supported Sanders so that Trump could win and the fact that the skeletons in Bernies closet hadnt been disclosed yet by the GOP. And you Bernie Bros keep bringing it up, over and over and over and over, even in threads where it has no relevance is annoying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-i-will-not-legalize-marijuana-this-just-cost-him-the-election/843631.md?page=4)