# Biden Not Attending King Charles III's Coronation **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 15, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713 "2023-04-15T15:20:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/61 "2023-04-23T18:19:00Z")
Everybody thinks their hobbies are interesting, and most people are self-aware enough to know not everyone is intrigued by their interests. The UK’s hobby is the Royals. They live in a golden terrarium where they can be studied endlessly, and from which few escape. It’s nice and polite to have Dr Jill attend. If I got a new puppy, I’d like to have my friends get to know her. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/62 "2023-04-23T19:21:09Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Looks like she’s making an obscene gesture…or is that the point? Yes, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/63 "2023-04-23T20:43:06Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Which, y’know, prudent move, so props for that. But from this side of the pond it still seems that once a nation gets to that point, it makes more sense just to ditch the hereditary headship (and aristocracy) entirely, rather than dragging along a useless ceremonial figurehead and a bunch of his/her relations as an appendage to national government. I don’t know… It seems to be human nature to want to have a king, and a lot of Americans seem to have reacted to that nature by trying to turn the President into a king. I think it just might be safer to leave an official but powerless monarch in place, just to act as a focal point and distraction for all those folks. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/64 "2023-04-23T22:00:16Z")
Hence the old saying that you have an elected monarchy, and we (like the Danes/Swedes/Dutch/Norwegians/Belgians) have a crowned republic ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/65 "2023-04-30T18:03:14Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > > [@UDS1](#): > > > > Canada will be represented by the Governor General. > > I expect Trudeau will attend. There has been no official announcement yet. Trudeau will attend. This was never in question IMO. > **[Trudeau heading to London for King Charles's coronation in May | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-charles-coronation-1.6825742)** > > Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will head to the United Kingdom next week to attend King Charles's coronation, according to an official in his office. The crowning of Charles and his wife Camilla, who will become Queen, will take place at London's... ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/66 "2023-04-30T20:14:05Z")
And yes, the Governor General Mary Simon will attend the coronation. This was announced earlier, and was no surprise. There will be quite a few other Canadians attending as well. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/67 "2023-05-01T06:20:18Z")
> [@UDS1](#): > > At past coronations, self-governing Commonwealth countries were represented by their Prime Ministers but not by their Governors-General, not least because the role of the Governor General is to represent the monarch, and what is the point of representing the monarch on an occasion where the actual monarch is present? This tendency for Governors General to act like republican heads of state shows the representational function of Governors General is increasingly being lost. And it’s now been announced that the Governors-General are going to perform an entirely new function at this coronation, of bestowing some sort of collective greeting on the King as he departs, which almost sounds like a secular blessing (it comes directly after a greeting by non-Christian faith leaders). ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/68 "2023-05-01T18:26:35Z")
The Liturgy does show the text of the greeting given by the “faith communities,” but does not go into any specifics about the greeting given by the Governors-General. The Faith Communities greeting: _“Your Majesty, as neighbours in faith, we acknowledge the value of public service. We unite with people of all faiths and beliefs in thanksgiving, and in service with you for the common good.”_ Since this seems to be the de facto thread for the coronation in general, I wonder what the reaction is to replacing the homage by the Peers with one by “the people” will be: [Archbishop of Canterbury] _I call upon all persons of goodwill of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of the other Realms and the Territories to make their homage, in heart and voice, to their undoubted King, defender of all._ _All who so desire, in the Abbey, and elsewhere, say together:_ [Audience] _I swear that I will pay true allegiance to Your Majesty, and to your heirs and successors according to law. So help me God._ ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/69 "2023-05-01T18:57:12Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > this seems to be the de facto thread for the coronation in general ISTM it’s sharing the load with the “Reign of Charles III” thread, as people may feel like reacting to something said in one or the other, but more focused on who’s there doing what. Eh, so whoever feels like it can affirm their allegiance. Or not. Pretty much par for the course these days. IIRC though Wills will perform a homage on behalf of the coronetted class (who apparently will not have to wear theirs)? OTOH as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, relative to those of their Continental cousins, even a partly-nerfed Brit coronation will look/sound impressive. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/70 "2023-05-01T19:36:02Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > IIRC though Wills will perform a homage on behalf of the coronetted class (who apparently will not have to wear theirs)? Not on behalf of the “coronetted class,” but “of the Royal Blood.” His oath will not make any reference to his being Duke of Cambridge - only as Prince of Wales. The only three oaths of homage are by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Prince William, and “The People.” [Link to the “authorized Liturgy” of the coronation.](https://www.churchofengland.org/sites/default/files/2023-04/23-24132%20Coronation%20Liturgy.pdf) I noticed that the Epistle and the Gospel are different than from Elizabeth II’s coronation, where they were “Fear God. Honor the King” and “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/71 "2023-05-04T01:57:28Z")
PM Trudeau releases list of Canadian contingent. > **[Trudeau announces Canadian delegation for King Charles's coronation | CBC News](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-charles-coronation-guestlist-1.6831355)** > > Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Wednesday the names that will make up the Canadian contingent travelling with him and Gov. Gen. Mary Simon to King Charles's coronation on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713/72 "2023-05-04T17:05:17Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > PM Trudeau releases list of Canadian contingent. I’m waiting for Pierre Poilievre to complain the PM is not flying WestJet Economy to Gatwick and staying at a £120/nt Premiere Inn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-not-attending-king-charles-iiis-coronation/982713.md?page=3)