# Biden passesd a note to Warren behind the gym **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 22, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545 "2015-08-22T21:08:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/41 "2015-08-23T22:11:23Z")
What lie? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/42 "2015-08-23T22:22:58Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Ash Carter’s wife (whoever that is) isn’t the leader of a major world power. The problem with what GWB did was just that it was pure buffoonery, and if the US had an international image during the terms of GWB+Cheney as a nation of idiots, cowboys, and buffoons, that would be one reason. I’m just trying to explain the meme. If you have any problem with it, you’ll have to take that up with someone like **Bimmer**. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/43 "2015-08-24T02:37:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > …You got a thing for high Cherokee cheekbones, huh? 😉 To be expected, simple Darwinism to be drawn to such a clear indicator of genetic superiority. ---
**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/44 "2015-08-24T13:16:08Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Perhaps you could expand on this Pervert thing. Sure. No problem:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E) Notice how he takes hold of the little pubescent girl’s arm so she can’t move away then practically sticks his tongue in her ear. She attempts to lean away but he’s got hold of her arm. Finally the little girls mother has to tap Biden on the back indicating that he had had his fun to the little girls embarrassment and to let her daughter go! It all happened on a public stage so the mother didn’t dare smack Biden’s face. I wonder what the female Secret Service members of Biden’s security detail think and having to watch Biden swim around his pool in the nude? Oh ya. Biden is a REAL class act…and a fucking pervert! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/45 "2015-08-24T14:14:35Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Ash Carter’s wife (whoever that is) isn’t the leader of a major world power. So you’re saying that it’s OK to fondle women who are lower in status than oneself? ---
**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/46 "2015-08-24T14:24:09Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > What does “second base” represent, in this analogy? Oh the irony! All Biden has ever done is try to get to any ‘base’ with every female he gets near. Ask the little girl he grabbed on stage. She tried to move her head away but he had hold of her arm so she couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/47 "2015-08-24T15:22:39Z")
> [@Bimmer](#): > > Sure. No problem:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E) > Notice how he takes hold of the little pubescent girl’s arm so she can’t move away then practically sticks his tongue in her ear. She attempts to lean away but he’s got hold of her arm. Finally the little girls mother has to tap Biden on the back indicating that he had had his fun to the little girls embarrassment and to let her daughter go! > It all happened on a public stage so the mother didn’t dare smack Biden’s face. I wonder what the female Secret Service members of Biden’s security detail think and having to watch Biden swim around his pool in the nude? Oh ya. Biden is a REAL class act…and a fucking pervert! I watched the video and kept wondering- where’s the beef? If this is the best you’ve got, be ready for President Biden. If the republic can stand a naked Nixon swimming with an equally naked Billy Graham, I’m sure that we can handle naked swims by Biden. And since about 10% of SS agents are female, the chances of one of them having to gaze upon the presidential staff are pretty small. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/48 "2015-08-24T15:31:21Z")
How cold is the water in the pool? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/49 "2015-08-24T16:04:40Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > So you’re saying that it’s OK to fondle women who are lower in status than oneself? That’s an amazingly perverse interpretation of what I said. There’s a diplomatic decorum that is maintained among world leaders. It’s the nature of diplomacy. What Bush was doing up there at an international summit in front of a hundred reporters wasn’t “fondling” Merkel, it was pure buffoonery. It’s called “being an ass”. BTW, I also checked what this Ash Carter’s wife and Biden thing was about. Apparently the Bidens and the Carters are close friends, and during Carter’s swearing-in ceremony Biden appeared to whisper something in his wife’s ear. The horror! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/50 "2015-08-24T16:42:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Half of an endorsement. A sort of _feeling_ that an endorsement is coming. Nicely done, even if it was the sound of the last bit of the thread leaving the rails. We need another primer on how to write a good thread. Seems like folks get about 50/50 odds of a thread going in vaguely the direction they had in mind when they posted it, and then it drops sharply from there if they try to do anything clever–like incorporate a metaphor. **TriPolar** ’s just lucky this last minute meeting didn’t turn into a Biden/Warren in 2016 pledge. Because then he’d have to defend reporting Biden “going all the way” with Warren. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/51 "2015-08-24T17:17:13Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > Nicely done, even if it was the sound of the last bit of the thread leaving the rails. > > We need another primer on how to write a good thread. Seems like folks get about 50/50 odds of a thread going in vaguely the direction they had in mind when they posted it, and then it drops sharply from there if they try to do anything clever–like incorporate a metaphor. > > **TriPolar** ’s just lucky this last minute meeting didn’t turn into a Biden/Warren in 2016 pledge. Because then he’d have to defend reporting Biden “going all the way” with Warren. 🙂 I didn’t have much in the specific intent. I realize some threads are like that. I suspect the press was intentionally tipped off about this ‘secret’ meeting, but this little tryst could mean almost anything. Of course the idea that either or both of them could enter the race is going to be the primary speculation, but they could just as easily be discussing their endorsements of existing candidates, or even something unrelated to the election. If there is any significance to this meeting we’ll hear about eventually. There’s really nothing to thread title except comparing the behavior of the press to adolescent gossip. I was bit surprised that anyone read any more into it than that. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/52 "2015-08-24T17:27:19Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > There’s really nothing to thread title except comparing the behavior of the press to adolescent gossip. I was bit surprised that anyone read any more into it than that. Internets is [del]an unpredictable[/del] a predictable place where it’s just as likely someone will nitpick the delivery as address the actual message. 😉 That’s all I’m sayin’. Apart from, thanks for making me think about Biden/Warren 2016 but I’m still holding out for Sanders/Silverman. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/53 "2015-08-24T17:54:54Z")
Because of the way she is running her campaign at this point, there is very little to report about Hilary and the press is picking up on just about anything. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/54 "2015-08-24T19:41:30Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I doubt the bankruptcy bill is going to be much of an albatross for him. Clinton also supported the bankruptcy law changes and it hasn’t even been an issue. Yes, I know she missed the vote in 2005, but she voted for the first version in 2001 which was not substantially different. It hasn’t even come up as an issue. It won’t for Biden either unless someone important brings it up. Which won’t happen, because Sanders doesn’t want to go negative and is doing everything in his power NOT to beat Clinton. If the people want to elect Sanders in a populist wave, that’s fine, but Sanders is not going after any of his opponents. You don’t think he’d take advantage of Biden’s entry into the race to talk about what a disaster the 2006 bankruptcy law is? Maybe it doesn’t matter to you, but a fair number of Dems are _still_ pissed about that law. Most of them are Bernie’s supporters. And if O’Malley makes an issue of it (and he is _desperately_ seeking an issue that will get him noticed in a good way) and Bernie doesn’t…nah, won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/55 "2015-08-24T20:30:23Z")
> [@Bimmer](#): > > Sure. No problem:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy07yHAgM4E) > Notice how he takes hold of the little pubescent girl’s arm so she can’t move away then practically sticks his tongue in her ear. She attempts to lean away but he’s got hold of her arm. Finally the little girls mother has to tap Biden on the back indicating that he had had his fun to the little girls embarrassment and to let her daughter go! > It all happened on a public stage so the mother didn’t dare smack Biden’s face. I wonder what the female Secret Service members of Biden’s security detail think and having to watch Biden swim around his pool in the nude? Oh ya. Biden is a REAL class act…and a fucking pervert! Joe’s looking a bit senior. Geoff Pierson could play him in '_ **Obama ! The Musical** _". You know it’s coming. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/56 "2015-08-24T21:22:01Z")
Biden and Warren sittin’ in a tree FEC f i l i n g. . . . ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/57 "2015-08-25T03:50:23Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > You don’t think he’d take advantage of Biden’s entry into the race to talk about what a disaster the 2006 bankruptcy law is? > > Maybe it doesn’t matter to you, but a fair number of Dems are _still_ pissed about that law. Most of them are Bernie’s supporters. And if O’Malley makes an issue of it (and he is _desperately_ seeking an issue that will get him noticed in a good way) and Bernie doesn’t…nah, won’t happen. Which is great for Sanders, but doesn’t do anything to get Clinton over Biden. Unless you think Sanders can win, damaging both Clinton and Biden serves no purpose for Democrats. It just blurs the distinction between Democrats and Republicans on inequality issues, something I’d imagine Sanders doesn’t want unless the nominee is him. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/58 "2015-08-25T04:08:07Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Biden and Warren sittin’ in a tree > FEC f i l i n g. . . . _tries to resist the urge to look that up on urban dictionary_ FAIL. It’s not in there though. FEC is. It’s even political - Flesh Eating Capitalist. Bad internet not already having a porny definition. Very bad. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/59 "2015-08-25T04:30:02Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Obviously you do, or you wouldn’t react with such defensiveness. > > We don’t care about her ethnicity, unless ‘liar’ is an ethnicity. > > Regards, > Shodan Or, you know, he’s tired of your bullshit posts and so got a bit angry in refuting your nonsense. Do you have anything to actually add to the discussion, or did you just post to provoke? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/60 "2015-08-25T04:35:42Z")
> [@The Great Sun Jester](#): > > Internets is [del]an unpredictable[/del] a predictable place where it’s just as likely someone will nitpick the delivery as address the actual message. 😉 That’s all I’m sayin’. Apart from, thanks for making me think about Biden/Warren 2016 but I’m still holding out for Sanders/Silverman. Which is why it would make sense to come up with something. Maybe “getting to second base” means saying she’ll endorse him should he run, while a home run would be her going on the ticket with him. Third base could be, I dunno, actively campaining for him. And first base would be telling him he should run. There you go. Less than a couple minutes’ thought. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545.md?page=4)