# Biden passesd a note to Warren behind the gym

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 22, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545 "2015-08-22T21:08:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/61 "2015-08-25T13:29:54Z")

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The problem with Biden is he’s a ‘loser’. He just is.  
He wasn’t ready for the ‘show’ the last two times he tried out.  
The Clinton machine would trample him. He knows it and he knows the Clinton’s knows he knows it.  
‘Pocahontas’ has it on good authority that if she sits this one out the DNC will back her in 2020. She’s young enough to wait.  
Not only that she is clever enough to know the country isn’t ready for her particular brand of Socialism. It hasn’t accomplished SFA good for the country under BOBO’s rule. Meanwhile Sanders is happy doing his ‘sheepdog’ impersonation.  
If Trump wins the nomination he’ll become the next President.  
Warren’s chances in 2020 will be pretty slim then.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/62 "2015-08-25T13:36:56Z")

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Uh, **Bimmer** , you do realize that in his last two elections, both for an office higher than any of the other candidates have ever held, he won handily, right?

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/63 "2015-08-25T14:38:51Z")

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I hopped over to the local conservative talk radio on my way to work this morning and learned this from the host:

1. Obama desperately wants Biden to be the next president, as a continuation of the Obama administration. “Like GHWB was supposed to be for Reagan but failed.”

2. Obama and Bill Clinton played golf last week, which seems to be at odds with #1 unless you recognize that Bill does not want Hillary to be elected either, for different reasons. (I arrived at work before finding out why Bill opposes Hillary’s candidacy).

3. Obama and Bill are conspiring with Biden to have Joe enter the race, with the plan of having Elizabeth Warren as his running mate. They will continue the country on 12 more years of ridin’ the greased track toward full-on Socialism.

4. Twelve years? Yeah, Biden’s only going to be a one-termer before handing the White House over to Warren who will complete the socialist revolution.

5. This Biden/Warren ticket will be much harder to beat in the general election than Hillary, because of reasons to be explained later in the show. I assume because Benghazi and email.

It all makes perfect sense you guys!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/64 "2015-08-25T14:39:16Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Which is great for Sanders, but doesn’t do anything to get Clinton over Biden.

Huh?!

Excuse me, but Biden carried serious water for this bill. Hillary wasn’t even a co-sponsor of it, didn’t vote for it, and the most that anyone can pin on her is that she voted for a pretty similar bill back in 2001.

By the time you get to that degree of separation, most people who’ve been paying attention are yawning and changing the channel.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/65 "2015-08-25T14:40:18Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Uh, **Bimmer** , you do realize that in his last two elections, both for an office higher than any of the other candidates have ever held, he won handily, right?

That’s like saying Bush Sr. won big in 1980 and 1984.

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/66 "2015-08-25T14:41:25Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Uh, **Bimmer** , you do realize that in his last two elections, both for an office higher than any of the other candidates have ever held, he won handily, right?

When I referred to the ‘show’ I was referring of course to becoming the President.  
In 1988 Biden told so many lies about his family background, his graduation class standing, and of course his chronic plagiarism he had to drop out of the race and go hide under a fucking rock. In 2008 he dropped out after not even getting one percent in Iowa.  
He’s a loser. The boys back at DNC headquarters have already told Biden to stay home and swim nude in front of the women in his SS security detail.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/67 "2015-08-25T14:43:59Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I hopped over to the local conservative talk radio on my way to work this morning and learned this from the host:
> 
> 1. Obama desperately wants Biden to be the next president, as a continuation of the Obama administration. “Like GHWB was supposed to be for Reagan but failed.”
> 
> 2. Obama and Bill Clinton played golf last week, which seems to be at odds with #1 unless you recognize that Bill does not want Hillary to be elected either, for different reasons. (I arrived at work before finding out why Bill opposes Hillary’s candidacy).
> 
> 3. Obama and Bill are conspiring with Biden to have Joe enter the race, with the plan of having Elizabeth Warren as his running mate. They will continue the country on 12 more years of ridin’ the greased track toward full-on Socialism.
> 
> 4. Twelve years? Yeah, Biden’s only going to be a one-termer before handing the White House over to Warren who will complete the socialist revolution.
> 
> 5. This Biden/Warren ticket will be much harder to beat in the general election than Hillary, because of reasons to be explained later in the show. I assume because Benghazi and email.
> 
> It all makes perfect sense you guys!

For some reason, Al Yankovic’s “Midnight Star” is going through my head right now. 😃

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/68 "2015-08-25T14:51:00Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> I hopped over to the local conservative talk radio on my way to work this morning and learned this from the host:
> 
> 1. Obama desperately wants Biden to be the next president, as a continuation of the Obama administration. “Like GHWB was supposed to be for Reagan but failed.”
> 
> 2. Obama and Bill Clinton played golf last week, which seems to be at odds with #1 unless you recognize that Bill does not want Hillary to be elected either, for different reasons. (I arrived at work before finding out why Bill opposes Hillary’s candidacy).
> 
> 3. Obama and Bill are conspiring with Biden to have Joe enter the race, with the plan of having Elizabeth Warren as his running mate. They will continue the country on 12 more years of ridin’ the greased track toward full-on Socialism.
> 
> 4. Twelve years? Yeah, Biden’s only going to be a one-termer before handing the White House over to Warren who will complete the socialist revolution.
> 
> 5. This Biden/Warren ticket will be much harder to beat in the general election than Hillary, because of reasons to be explained later in the show. I assume because Benghazi and email.
> 
> It all makes perfect sense you guys!

Some of that doesn’t make sense, but… Imagine the boat rocking that would occur if Biden announced his candidacy and at the same time announced Warren as his running mate! Not saying it’s going to happen, but it sure has the makings of a good narrative.

Still, is there any credible reason for Bill to not what Hillary to be president? That part seems like a stretch, although it’s certainly not necessary for Biden and Warren to team up.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/69 "2015-08-25T14:55:40Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> The boys back at DNC headquarters have already told Biden to stay home and swim nude in front of the women in his SS security detail.

You mind if I just roll my eyes at the whole ‘swimming nude in front of the women in his Secret Service detail’ bit?

_Numero uno_, he didn’t give up the right to be a human being when he became veep. If he used to swim naked in private, or at some club where nude swimming was accepted, why shouldn’t he get to swim naked now?

_Numero two-o_, as Joe Bob Briggs used to say, yes, he’s the veep, and now Secret Service agents accompany him. That also doesn’t mean he should have to change his habits to suit them. They’re there for his benefit, not the other way around.

_Numero three-o_, they’re big boys and girls. They can deal with worse shit than seeing a 72 year old man naked. I’m sure even the female Secret Service agents can handle that sight, really. It’s not like he’s exposing himself to random women here. I’m sure they don’t regard themselves as victims in any way, shape, or form. This is their job. They can deal.

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**Author:** ![Bimmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bimmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bimmer)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/70 "2015-08-25T15:03:14Z")

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Bill doesn’t want his wife (in name only) to overshadow his Presidency. That’s the simplistic view and there’s probably something to it.  
BUT both the Clintons have been stealing horses together for decades and they can smell trouble coming like no one’s business. Big time trouble is heading their way. They know it.  
There are some drop dead serious skeletons waiting in the closet. The GOP backroom boys are holding off until the time is right and then and only then will the shit hit the fan for the Clintons. People have provable, verifiable evidence which will be sent in plain brown envelopes to five hundred news outlets of the Clintons illegalities dating WAAAAY back.  
The Clintons will end up being criminally charged and very likely both will do some ‘Martha Stewart’ time at a luxury country club type prison.  
The ‘West Coast’ faction of the Dem. party and especially BOBO will be breaking out their finest champagne in celebration.  
This is my prediction.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/71 "2015-08-25T15:14:03Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> Bill doesn’t want his wife (in name only) to overshadow his Presidency. That’s the simplistic view and there’s probably something to it.

Not really. It’s more likely that Bill thinks that Hillary’s policies would be good for the country and supports her for that reason.

> [@](#):
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> BUT both the Clintons have been stealing horses together for decades and they can smell trouble coming like no one’s business. Big time trouble is heading their way. They know it.

If they do, they’re the only ones. Benghazi was a phony scandal, the email crap has no legs. What else ya got?

> [@](#):
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> There are some drop dead serious skeletons waiting in the closet. The GOP backroom boys are holding off until the time is right and then and only then will the shit hit the fan for the Clintons.

It’s quite laughable to think that Republicans are capable of NOT running to a microphone the instant they pick up any dirt on the Clintons.

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> People have provable, verifiable evidence which will be sent in plain brown envelopes to five hundred news outlets of the Clintons illegalities dating WAAAAY back.

If such dirt existed, it would have come out before.

> [@](#):
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> The Clintons will end up being criminally charged and very likely both will do some ‘Martha Stewart’ time at a luxury country club type prison.

Sure. Bush and Cheney will never be indicted for war crimes, yet the Clintons will be imprisoned for a scandal to be named later.

> [@](#):
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> The ‘West Coast’ faction of the Dem. party and especially BOBO will be breaking out their finest champagne in celebration.

The celebration will for be Democratic sweeps in 2016.

> [@](#):
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> This is my prediction.

Point noted. Looking forward to seeing how it shapes up for accuracy.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/72 "2015-08-25T15:31:42Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> Bill doesn’t want his wife (in name only)

> [@](#):
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> ‘Pocahontas’

> [@](#):
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> BOBO

> [@](#):
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> Meanwhile Sanders is happy doing his ‘sheepdog’ impersonation.

People might take your opinions more seriously if you didn’t drop in pointless digs.

> [@](#):
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> People have provable, verifiable evidence which will be sent in plain brown envelopes to five hundred news outlets of the Clintons illegalities dating WAAAAY back.

Unless you provide evidence of that, nobody should believe you.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/73 "2015-08-25T15:32:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> There are some drop dead serious skeletons waiting in the closet. The GOP backroom boys are holding off until the time is right and then and only then will the shit hit the fan for the Clintons. People have provable, verifiable evidence which will be sent in plain brown envelopes to five hundred news outlets of the Clintons illegalities dating WAAAAY back.

So the time wasn’t right in 1992 or 1996?

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/74 "2015-08-25T17:52:54Z")

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> [@Bimmer](#):
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> This is my prediction.

And \*you \*were there, and _you_ were there, and _you_ were there!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/75 "2015-08-25T17:55:46Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> So the time wasn’t right in 1992 or 1996?

I’m still waiting for the Michelle Obama video, where she talks about “whitey”.  
_sigh_

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/76 "2015-08-25T19:08:17Z")

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> [@CGav8r](#):
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> I’m still waiting for the Michelle Obama video, where she talks about “whitey”.  
> _sigh_

Oh, it’s there. But you see… the GOP is keeping it closely guarded, waiting for the time when she runs for office. Then, just at the right moment, THEY SPRING IT!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/77 "2015-08-25T19:09:47Z")

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This is the break Meghan McCain has been waiting for!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/78 "2015-08-25T19:29:10Z")

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If there’s anything to Biden and/or Warren running this would have been a way to waters. CNN reported that more likely than not Biden would run. I guess they asked the NFL for an opinion. Their source believes Biden would make an October announcement, meaning he’s not set to jump in just yet. I think Biden wants to run, he has nothing to lose, and after VP you run for president or stay home.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/79 "2015-08-25T19:33:02Z")

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Ah yes, “sources”. Don’tcha love 'em?

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-passesd-a-note-to-warren-behind-the-gym/728545/80 "2015-08-26T13:37:38Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Not really. It’s more likely that Bill thinks that Hillary’s policies would be good for the country and supports her for that reason.
> 
> If they do, they’re the only ones. Benghazi was a phony scandal, the email crap has no legs. What else ya got?
> 
> It’s quite laughable to think that Republicans are capable of NOT running to a microphone the instant they pick up any dirt on the Clintons.
> 
> If such dirt existed, it would have come out before.
> 
> Sure. Bush and Cheney will never be indicted for war crimes, yet the Clintons will be imprisoned for a scandal to be named later.
> 
> The celebration will for be Democratic sweeps in 2016.
> 
> Point noted. Looking forward to seeing how it shapes up for accuracy.

How did the DEM “sweep” work out from them in the midterms?  
It seems about 60% of those polled, in a broad cross section of polls believe Hillary is not trustworthy nor honest. That’s not making the boys at the DNC very confident.  
When their hired actuaries tell them Hillary has sunk too far to win the general election the DNC will pull the plug on her.

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