# Biden V. Palin watch-along thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 3, 2008, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253 "2008-10-03T00:00:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/341 "2008-10-03T02:14:32Z")

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What the fuck? She is just as bad as I thought. There’s _no_ substance. The format is question, Joe Biden tells the facts and explains the situation, then Palin just vomits a bunch of words with key words that may or may not have anything to do with anything at all.  
Education? When the fuck did we get onto education?

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/342 "2008-10-03T02:14:58Z")

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Dog-gone it? Shout out? What the hell is going on here?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/343 "2008-10-03T02:15:00Z")

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Huh? Vice president? Children with special needs? You betcha?

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**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/344 "2008-10-03T02:15:15Z")

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Palin still comes off as massively stupid.

Not a retarded drooler, but still, not somebody you want running anything major.

Biden is solid, not shiny, but solid.

Palin hasn’t lost any of her rural Bible thumper base, but she hasn’t gained any of us city folk either.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/345 "2008-10-03T02:15:28Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> Do you ever get tired of being predictable? Anyone without horse blinders on can see that performance wise, Palin is clearly doing better.

Really? If you think that a good performance means pulling that “i’m just a regular gal, hey howdy” crap then perhaps I could agree.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/346 "2008-10-03T02:15:29Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> Do you ever get tired of being predictable? Anyone without horse blinders on can see that performance wise, Palin is clearly doing better.

Not according to the lines at the bottom of the screen.

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/347 "2008-10-03T02:15:44Z")

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> [@CRich](#):
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> She drops her g’s on purpose to sound more down-home. But at some point, the folksiness is just over the top. How many people want their president to be a big hick? I expect more.

She’s coming off like Margie in “Fargo.”

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/348 "2008-10-03T02:15:51Z")

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Good fucking grief. I hope McCain’s planning on asking her to check her opinions at the door. That’s exactly what we’re all afraid of.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/349 "2008-10-03T02:16:27Z")

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> [@Carnick](#):
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> Do you ever get tired of being predictable? Anyone without horse blinders on can see that performance wise, Palin is clearly doing better.

What are you watching?

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**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/350 "2008-10-03T02:16:33Z")

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> [@CRich](#):
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> She drops her g’s on purpose to sound more down-home. But at some point, the folksiness is just over the top. How many people want their president to be a big hick? I expect more.

She sort of comes across as an evil Marge Gunderson.

ETA=wow, beaten to it.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/351 "2008-10-03T02:16:35Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> I hate her folksy expressions, I really do. I have had enough of Bush, I want candidates that speak well, appear intelligent and have sound policies. I don’t want to drink with them.

I’m with you. It’s really annoying the hell out of me.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/352 "2008-10-03T02:16:40Z")

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> [@Spavined\_Gelding](#):
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> Dog-gone it? Shout out? What the hell is going on here?

I think she is parodying Tina Fey.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/353 "2008-10-03T02:16:58Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> Palin hasn’t lost any of her rural Bible thumper base, but she hasn’t gained any of us city folk either.

Given his shakiness in North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, Florida, and to a much lesser extent South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi and Texas, I think he’s aiming at rural folks.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/354 "2008-10-03T02:17:30Z")

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> [@CRich](#):
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> How many people want their president to be a big hick?

More than you’d care to know.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/355 "2008-10-03T02:17:44Z")

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Props to Biden for what he just said about Cheney.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/356 "2008-10-03T02:17:52Z")

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She just learned like yesterday afternoon that the VP “presides over the Senate,” and she’s “looking forward to that.” I guess they forgot to tell her that it’s not something the VP actually shows up to do very often.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/357 "2008-10-03T02:18:13Z")

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Is she Cheney lite? What is with the VP wiggle room? And why is she given special projects like special needs kids? I wish Biden had brought up Creationism.  
And she managed to cram in education with NO question at all. And the special needs kid now joins poor Bristol as part of her ad campaign.

I’m done with her.

Go Joe–well done. Cheney IS what he says…

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/358 "2008-10-03T02:18:17Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> What else could he say to make the point he wanted to make? There are three major ethnic groups in Bosnia, and one of them is referred to as the Bosniaks (not “Bosnians”, which would cover all of them).

Well, not to start a debate, but the Serbs and Croats would usually be called Bosnian Serbs or Bosnian Croats. Bosnian _tends_ to refer only to the Bosniaks. Bosnian Muslim would have worked too.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/359 "2008-10-03T02:18:20Z")

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In general, I think that Palin is doing better than I thought she would, although she’s mainly just printing bad bumper stickers out of her mouth. It’s mainly that the bar was set so very low for her. She’s speaking in slogans and catchphrases with a little bit of filler.

Biden, on the other hand, is actually impressing me. He’s one of those politicians who I’d never really paid quite enough attention to. He’s staying on point, getting in a few zingers of his own, and in general is sounding much more educated and poised.

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**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/biden-v-palin-watch-along-thread/466253/360 "2008-10-03T02:18:32Z")

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Woo, Biden kicked at Cheney. THANK YOU!

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